Difficult to say by comparing the 3D rendering with real pictures, but is Speeder Cycling the OEM of the Tavelo Arow frame?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiNJ0NYzqGdItAT--8QRq24e6I0Vr8bS9mqG0AJVN2zg&s)
New frame just popped up on Speeder Cycling's site today. Looks good, but we only get to see a render for now.
https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Integrated-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R55D-_p429.html
Material: Toray M40J T700 / T800
Type: 700C Road Disc
Appearance: UDM
Finish: Gloss / Matt (can offer custom painting)
Headset: FSA NO.55R ACR 1.5" Fully-Integrated
BB: Press Fit BB86.5*41mm
Standard Weight: 980g+/-35g (51cm)
SL Weight: 880g+/-35g (51cm)
Frame Size: 45cm / 48cm / 51cm / 54cm / 57cm
Handlebar Size: 370mm / 390mm / 410mm / 430mm (C to C in hoods)
Stem Size: 85mm / 95mm / 105mm / 115mm / 125mm
Cable Routing: Full Internal
Di2 Compatible: Yes
Disc Mount: Flat Mount
Max Tire Clearance: 700 x 32c
TA: 12x100mm / 12x142mm
Test: ISO 4210
Warranty: Two Years
Wow ... 2 frames in one week with a 57/58 with head angle below 73deg (other being Incolor).
How does this effect handling? Both head tube and seat tube angles still confuse me.
Slacker head tube angles typically make for a less responsive bike; but this isnt a good or bad thing since the question is whether or not the overall design is balanced in terms of feedback to actual turning action. One of the concrete benefits of the slacker HT angle is increased front-center and wheelbase for larger riders without increasing reach. Because of current forward trend in bike fitting this has meant that in turns there is too much front weight bias giving bikes a tendency step out.
My opinion would be that they should just increase reach by 2-3% across sizes and call it a day rather than slack out the HT angles, but that creates fit problems for many riders and then you are fighting decades of bike fitting "science" and aesthetic.
bolded part is all industry marketing mumbo jumbo. second part is true, but the main thing is about reducing deflection of the front wheel due to riding surface, wind, or manhandling the bike at high power out of the saddle and increasing stability at speed. taller, heavier riders need this more, not less than smaller riders.
increasing reach (and thus FC) will only increase stability a bit - as it'll be a smaller amount and head angles would still be far too steep.
from a fit, bike handling and geometry perspective there is absolutely no reason for larger frames to have steeper head angles. whilst there's plenty for them to have slacker head angles. the status quo is purely about package size.
also any further increases in reach are going to need increases in seat angle - they're already far too slack in larger sizes.
Difficult to say by comparing the 3D rendering with real pictures, but is Speeder Cycling the OEM of the Tavelo Arow frame?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiNJ0NYzqGdItAT--8QRq24e6I0Vr8bS9mqG0AJVN2zg&s)
Interesting to hear about the custom paint. So that’s the matte carbon version then?
I built my SC-R55D last week. In this configuration it comes in 7.05kg. I could easily shave more grams off, but I am happy with the weight for now. This morning was my first work out and the bike felt good under me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fbwVbHHrSzNUtRyG6
I built my SC-R55D last week. In this configuration it comes in 7.05kg. I could easily shave more grams off, but I am happy with the weight for now. This morning was my first work out and the bike felt good under me.Do you have more pics? Considering this one as an alternative to LCR017...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fbwVbHHrSzNUtRyG6
The bike looks quite good and with potential.
The spacers however don't seem to fit perfectly, but maybe it's the picture. looks like the bottom one is too long and is not the shape of the fork. Is that the pic or a feature?
I ordered the spacers aftermarket. So they weren't intended to fit perfectly. Especially the wide ones.OK. That justifies it. In any case, nice looking bike ;)
It is the same photo that speeder uses on their website for the SC-R55D.
Adapt calls it the FM55 (http://www.adapt-bikes.com/Products-detail?product_id=100) (see: three more 3D renderings). Looks identical except Adapt says theirs has T47, which I don't think is possible without an entirely different frame mold, considering it's bigger than BB86. Or it's just a listing error.
I built my SC-R55D last week. In this configuration it comes in 7.05kg. I could easily shave more grams off, but I am happy with the weight for now. This morning was my first work out and the bike felt good under me.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fbwVbHHrSzNUtRyG6
Can you put some pictures from the non drive side, i want to see hidden thruaxle
how would you put that bike on the trainer?
I'm curious to know if there is more feedback on how this frame rides. I'm also curious if anyone has more details on tire clearance. Where the tightest spots are, and what size tires people are fitting? Is this a 6mm of clearance with 32mm tires or a 4mm of clearance situation?
FYI, I asked for a quote and they told me that they have an exclusive deal with a German brand, so they won't sell any frames to individual customers in Germany. Too bad, this frame looks awesome.
FYI, I asked for a quote and they told me that they have an exclusive deal with a German brand, so they won't sell any frames to individual customers in Germany. Too bad, this frame looks awesome.
Well that is a shame, was planning to order one to germany...
Ican FL1 it is then
Or Workswell r316, but that is a tad more expensive.
Sorry for the delay.
I will get to the details.
Firstly, with the same wheels the bike has gained weight, it is 7.125 kg now. Made some quality of life adds - adding 70g of weight was shockingly easy to do.
The frame weighed 900 grams with paint, the UDH, and the FD hanger. The finish is very nice but there were oddities, such as the BB was 40.5mm, and compared to a Light Carbon frame I have the disk brake fittings weren't faced as well.
Components: Dura-ace, with a Riro carbon crankset, 50/34 chain rings, Favero assiomo uno power meter pedals, Selle Italia SLR saddle, Onirii 160mm Rotors front and back, Avian Canary 34 width handlebars, Light Carbon Wheels (68mm depth), YBN Chain, Conti GP 5000 TLR, and TPU tubes.
Wheels are here, they are excellent: https://www.lightcarbon.com/lightcarbon-super-light-c67db-undulating-rim-depth-carbon-spoke-road-wheels_p232.html
The build went really smooth other than mistakes I made, I am new to modern bikes and so I had to redo a lot of things.
Note - it comes with a 7 by 7 seat post clamp. Ask for the 7 by 9 if you need it.
Justin from Speeder was excellent, straight forward and accurate, maybe too direct for Canadian living in Wisconsin.
Another post will come in a few minutes with more pics.
Any other people have this bike ? I'm curious to hear some infos and see some pictures of fully built bike
https://photos.app.goo.gl/BGEDge6w1fjCR7FJ8
Photos of the bike.
Hi Hendie, thanks for pics and build details
I'm goind to pull the trigger for this frameset.
The only thing makes me hesitating is tire clearance.
My go-to wheelset at this moment is reserve 52/63 which has 35mm front, 34mm rear.
32c tires on them, expect almost identical to external rim width.
Can you give me a favor to measure how tight space between seatstays and chainstays in you 28c tires?
I just ordered a SC-R55D frame. It should arrive in January. :) :) :)
Got my frame size 51
On first look everything seems good, mounts are faced, no rough bearing seats, bb is faced and inside seems smooth
Only the headtube to downtube juction has something yellow? on the inside of the frame not sure what that is, everything else is smooth.
Was expecting the frame to be a bit lighter but its not too bad.
Weights:
Frame with rear and front derailleur hanger and bottlecage bolts: 930g
Fork uncut: 397g
Seatpost(0mm offset) with saddle clamp: 178g
Thru axles: 73g
UDH: 28g
Will post after i build the bike, still waiting for farsports hypers to be shipped.
Got my frame size 51
Took about a month for it to be shipped and 20 days for shipping, eu tax prepaid
On first look everything seems good, mounts are faced, no rough bearing seats, bb is faced and inside seems smooth
Only the headtube to downtube juction has something yellow? on the inside of the frame not sure what that is, everything else is smooth.
Does the clearcoat without painting is sufficient to protect the frame against the UV rays ?
Anyone here can measure tire clearance of the frame and fork?I have schwalbe pro one 30mm on 26mm internal rims. They measure 33mm. Fork is super wide can probably take 40mm, same as seatstays. Chainstays are the narrowest point but there's still a bit of room. I think 35 should fit.
I'm about to pulling the trigger but not sure if I can put 34-35mm actual width tires front and back.
I have schwalbe pro one 30mm on 26mm internal rims. They measure 33mm. Fork is super wide can probably take 40mm, same as seatstays. Chainstays are the narrowest point but there's still a bit of room. I think 35 should fit.pavlo, much appreciated! That chainstay part looks pretty tight but this isn't a gravel bike, think it's fine.
pavlo, much appreciated! That chainstay part looks pretty tight but this isn't a gravel bike, think it's fine.
Waiting for your full build and review.
Cheers
it's 4mm of clearance on either side so well within acceptable.It looks cool with those deep section wheels
the build is almost done. only need to install the bb and cranks and bleed the brakes
My build is ready.
Built with ltwoo er9 groupset and wheels from Peter
Weight with pedals and bottle cages is 7.7kg which is not the lightest but considering the size and a very deep rims it's not too bad. I originally installed riro carbon cranks but the chainrings turned out to be warped so I'm waiting for a replacement to arrive. With riro cranks the weight is getting close to 7.5kg
65s from Peter? what do they say on the scale?
Order submitted to Justin. Should be a fun build this winter!
| Part | Weight (g) | Notes |
| Frame (size 535) | 842.1 | Unpainted; completely bare (without hanger, FD tab, seatpost wedge clamp, etc) |
| Fork | 393.3 | Unpainted; steerer is 300mm |
| Seatpost (1-bolt setback) | 177.2 | Matte paint, with hardware; 40mm length |
| Seatpost (2-bolt zero-setback) | 171.2 | Matte paint, with hardware; 400mm length |
| Seatpost wedge clamp | 15.5 | |
| Seatpost Di2 battery wedge clamp | 7.4 | |
| Seatpost rubber cover | 4.7 | |
| FD tab + mounting screws | 15.5 | |
| Derailleur hanger (UDH) | 27.9 | Not SRAM-branded |
| Expander plug | 54.8 | |
| Headset top cover | 15.5 | Not FSA-branded; ~10mm height |
| Headset bearings | 61.2 | 51.8 x 40 x 8 mm, 36 x 45 deg |
| Headset spacer (5mm, each) | 5.7 | comes with 5x |
| Headset compression ring | 6.9 | |
| Bottle cage bolt (each) | 2.8 | comes with 5x |
| Bottle cage washer (each) | 0.3 | |
| All cable port plugs (5x) | 1.8 |
Did you get any updates after your order?
I couldn't get any response from him since 22nd Nov.
Isn't the SC-R55D the same as the Quick Pro AR:ONE ?
Who said that? Another thread?
Just had a first ride outside, frame seems good, much more comfortable than my previous bike, although it could also be the wheels and tires, since 28mm tires when inflated are 30mm because of the 24mm internal width
Issues i had building the bike.
The front thru axle was too long, so when i tighten it all the way the wheel was wobbly, so i put a 2mm spacer for now until i get new axle.
Brake mounts are faced but when i mounted the calipers i couldnt get discs not to rub in any position, i guess they are not parallel to the disc, i guess rubbing will stop after i use them for a bit, but i will go get the mounts faced.
Weight without the clip on aero bars is 7.4kg(pedals, bottle cages, garmin mount included)
https://ibb.co/vHPnqK2
Got my frame size 51How.much did it work out with the pre-tax clearance to EU?
Took about a month for it to be shipped and 20 days for shipping, eu tax prepaid
On first look everything seems good, mounts are faced, no rough bearing seats, bb is faced and inside seems smooth
Only the headtube to downtube juction has something yellow? on the inside of the frame not sure what that is, everything else is smooth.
Was expecting the frame to be a bit lighter but its not too bad.
Weights:
Frame with rear and front derailleur hanger and bottlecage bolts: 930g
Fork uncut: 397g
Seatpost(0mm offset) with saddle clamp: 178g
Thru axles: 73g
UDH: 28g
Will post after i build the bike, still waiting for farsports hypers to be shipped.
A bit of an oversight on my part, deda super box stem only allows 2 brake cables and 1 di2 cable, i had in mind to run 2 cables to the junction in downtube and then to battery, will probably file the stem a bit to make space for 2 di2 cables, should be fine i guess?
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What are he handlebar and aerobar ?
How.much did it work out with the pre-tax clearance to EU?
Is this the standard or light version of the frame? Not sure if they actually offer the two yet.
Painting is complete. Now comes the slow build process. I noticed last night that the rear axle is a 1.5mm thread pitch, while the UDH is a 1.0mm pitch, so there is the first thing needing fixed
Question: why the angled stem and not go up a size? Is it handling, looks,...?I think I explained a bit in an earlier post, but the main reason is that I want the top tube to be as low as possible because my knees/inner thighs often rub it. I chose this frame because the size 535 has a reasonably low top tube, yet still has a front-center that would typically be found on a 58cm+ (606mm), which is kinda important at my height for descending stability, and also ensures no toe overlap due to my forward cleat position.