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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: beemerchie on June 05, 2024, 12:27:53 PM
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My First Roadbike Build... just a try...
Items List along the Store name in Aliexpress
Dogma F size46.5 NebulaSun (Ride Love) $503.75
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004352240649.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004352240649.html)
Groupset R7020 GS 11-speed (Yiwu) $327.99
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005412227135.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005412227135.html)
Cogs 11-34T (Anracee)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32824377142.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32824377142.html)
Chain HG701 (Anracee) $75.96 (includes cogs)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32721995091.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32721995091.html)
BBR60 (Anracee) $15.81
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006603776104.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006603776104.html)
Crank PES 505 170mm (Magene) $276.33
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005506880823.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005506880823.html)
Chainring Zrace 50-34 (Zrace) $22.13
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005881248056.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005881248056.html)
Disc Zrace RT-RX 140mmF 160mmR (Zrace) $51.82
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006117053873.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006117053873.html)
Clear Protection Sticker(Digitaling Store)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006804223120.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006804223120.html)
Pads Zrace M1 XG (Digitaling Store) $6.40 (includes Clear Sticker)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006841395394.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006841395394.html)
Wheelset CSC 50mm Ratchet 36T 21mmID 28mmOD (CSC) $306.28
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006412487338.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006412487338.html)
TPU Cyclami 26G (bikego) $9.56
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005979668761.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005979668761.html)
Tire Kenda KountachElite 28C (beleza) $31.55
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005920703180.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005920703180.html)
Internal Foam Damper (outdoorTime) $5.69
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006125129217.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006125129217.html)
Cable Housing Shimano SUSY60098022 (chaser) $32.32
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32863892245.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32863892245.html)
SPD SL Carbon finish (Sava) $24.49
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004702217579.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004702217579.html)
Propel Bottle Cage (bicycle factory) $16.24
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006875247789.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006875247789.html)
Saddle Walgun Selle Italia SLR (yohoo-bike) $24.46
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004730284295.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004730284295.html)
brake fluid (ziyaco) $7.23
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005450452948.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005450452948.html)
corima sticker (readu) $13.96
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004058267231.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004058267231.html)
computer mount (cycling official storage) $10.25
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005830861482.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005830861482.html)
Bartape OG Evkin BT-001 (manufacturer direct) $6.77
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005644956337.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005644956337.html)
Total Costs: $1,768.99 + 105.56(duties) = $1,874.55
final weight: 8.04kg (includes 2bottle cages, no pedals, no computer mount)
full build: 8.35kg
hope it will last a thousand miles...
issues on the build process;
1. Routing the FD cable is a bit of problem but able to run on the bottom of BB.
2. BB thread is clean unlike the many VBR218 issues.
3. I forgot to consider the expander thickness on top of steerer tube so I do cut twice ;D
4. I put a bit of spacer in the base of rear brake instead of sanding the inner side to avoid delaminating the paint.
5. I overtighten(5nm) my seatpost bolts at first try that left some paint crack :'( i hope it's a not a problem later on. It's okay now, not sliding down anymore.
6. Bleeding the brakes and alignment is one hell of experience ;D
7. Aligning the RD is easier than the FD :D
initial ride(20kms) feel is stiff and maybe i am too excited to push which i felt lighter than my all-rounder bike(7.8kg SL4 copy ;D)... let me try to some hill climb to compare...
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Stickers to look like a counterfeit = :'(
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the intent of my build is just simply to copy one of the best bike art available at the cheapest way possible, rather than a nothing cheap bland bikes...
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How stiff is the bike ?
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holy moly that looks awesome!! :D
dont care what other ppl say!
Could you also provide links and total cost?
I am(and have been on the verge of getting vbr218 for a long time now) very interested of building my own but never pulled the thumb out. But this build looks sick!
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updated the links of my parts...
actually, my idea starts with a disc brake bike since i have a rim brake already... then to aero build and options are either going with TFSA JH10 or BXT 145 or SPCYCLE R065 or RIDELOVE JH24 AEROAD... as the costs of the frame against the dogmaF is the same while the color of the dogmaF was crazy gorgeous(they showed me that nebula colorways are available), why not just go with dogmaF - everything was from aliexpress by the way...
ride with my usual hill route today and didn't broke :D but not lucky today as i got a puncture :'(
so far, the build is solid for my taste ;) for that costs, it's more than enough...
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My First Roadbike Build... just a try...
Items List along the Store name in Aliexpress
Dogma F size46.5 NebulaSun (Ride Love) $503.75
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004352240649.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004352240649.html)
Groupset R7020 GS 11-speed (Yiwu) $327.99
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005412227135.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005412227135.html)
Cogs 11-34T (Anracee)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32824377142.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32824377142.html)
Chain HG701 (Anracee) $75.96 (includes cogs)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32721995091.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32721995091.html)
BBR60 (Anracee) $15.81
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006603776104.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006603776104.html)
Crank PES 505 170mm (Magene) $276.33
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005506880823.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005506880823.html)
Chainring Zrace 50-34 (Zrace) $22.13
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005881248056.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005881248056.html)
Disc Zrace RT-RX 140mmF 160mmR (Zrace) $51.82
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006117053873.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006117053873.html)
Clear Protection Sticker(Digitaling Store)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006804223120.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006804223120.html)
Pads Zrace M1 XG (Digitaling Store) $6.40 (includes Clear Sticker)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006841395394.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006841395394.html)
Wheelset CSC 50mm Ratchet 36T 21mmID 28mmOD (CSC) $306.28
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006412487338.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006412487338.html)
TPU Cyclami 26G (bikego) $9.56
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005979668761.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005979668761.html)
Tire Kenda KountachElite 28C (beleza) $31.55
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005920703180.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005920703180.html)
Internal Foam Damper (outdoorTime) $5.69
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006125129217.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006125129217.html)
Cable Housing Shimano SUSY60098022 (chaser) $32.32
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32863892245.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32863892245.html)
SPD SL Carbon finish (Sava) $24.49
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004702217579.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004702217579.html)
Propel Bottle Cage (bicycle factory) $16.24
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006875247789.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006875247789.html)
Saddle Walgun Selle Italia SLR (yohoo-bike) $24.46
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004730284295.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004730284295.html)
brake fluid (ziyaco) $7.23
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005450452948.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005450452948.html)
corima sticker (readu) $13.96
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004058267231.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004058267231.html)
computer mount (cycling official storage) $10.25
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005830861482.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005830861482.html)
Bartape OG Evkin BT-001 (manufacturer direct) $6.77
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005644956337.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005644956337.html)
Total Costs: $1,768.99 + 105.56(duties) = $1,874.55
final weight: 8.04kg (includes 2bottle cages, no pedals, no computer mount)
full build: 8.35kg
hope it will last a thousand miles...
issues on the build process;
1. Routing the FD cable is a bit of problem but able to run on the bottom of BB.
2. BB thread is clean unlike the many VBR218 issues.
3. I forgot to consider the expander thickness on top of steerer tube so I do cut twice ;D
4. I put a bit of spacer in the base of rear brake instead of sanding the inner side to avoid delaminating the paint.
5. I overtighten(5nm) my seatpost bolts at first try that left some paint crack :'( i hope it's a not a problem later on. It's okay now, not sliding down anymore.
6. Bleeding the brakes and alignment is one hell of experience ;D
7. Aligning the RD is easier than the FD :D
initial ride(20kms) feel is stiff and maybe i am too excited to push which i felt lighter than my all-rounder bike(7.8kg SL4 copy ;D)... let me try to some hill climb to compare...
Thanks for posting those links to the groupsets. Been looking for guidance. Well done ;D
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for the groupsets, anracee, yiwu, and chaser are my go-to picks in aliexpress...
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updated the links of my parts...
actually, my idea starts with a disc brake bike since i have a rim brake already... then to aero build and options are either going with TFSA JH10 or BXT 145 or SPCYCLE R065 or RIDELOVE JH24 AEROAD... as the costs of the frame against the dogmaF is the same while the color of the dogmaF was crazy gorgeous(they showed me that nebula colorways are available), why not just go with dogmaF - everything was from aliexpress by the way...
ride with my usual hill route today and didn't broke :D but not lucky today as i got a puncture :'(
so far, the build is solid for my taste ;) for that costs, it's more than enough...
Thanks mate! That is crazy, how do you find the bike at this moment?
I saw those and imo dogmaF has the best appearance.
Uf haha puncture is not a nice thing tho! :D
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logged around 103kms already... the bike is stiff compared to my old bike, feels like a solid wall...
i dont know if its just in my head but once you roll, you want to full gas all the time, it feels light or whatsoever cant explain but i am gasping ;D
need to get use with the handlebar height, it was 2cm lower than my old bike, riding/sprinting on the drop needs more training...
my favorite part is the brake... very far from the rim brake, bite right away and no worries of wear on the rims...
as we said, maybe we are just enjoying our build... i just hope not to see any cracks soon... ;D
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logged around 103kms already... the bike is stiff compared to my old bike, feels like a solid wall...
i dont know if its just in my head but once you roll, you want to full gas all the time, it feels light or whatsoever cant explain but i am gasping ;D
need to get use with the handlebar height, it was 2cm lower than my old bike, riding/sprinting on the drop needs more training...
my favorite part is the brake... very far from the rim brake, bite right away and no worries of wear on the rims...
as we said, maybe we are just enjoying our build... i just hope not to see any cracks soon... ;D
hello, great build. looks amazing. one question, i do not see calipers on the list, which one did you mount it? thanks!!
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Nice build! Did you have a good experience buying from the Ride Love store? I might be interested in buying an Aethos clone frameset from them.
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hello, great build. looks amazing. one question, i do not see calipers on the list, which one did you mount it? thanks!!
calipers are included in the groupset... 105 hydraulic brake sets...
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Nice build! Did you have a good experience buying from the Ride Love store? I might be interested in buying an Aethos clone frameset from them.
my first experience of carbon item from aliexpress was the rim brake wheelset (dura-ace) from Zhou Shi Jun (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004941919441.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004941919441.html)) and he has frames of dogmaF and even painted Aeroad before in his Store... when I decided to get the frame, it's not listed anymore so he said he has another store that lists the aeroad and dogmaF.... thats "ride love"...
aethos clone also one of my option but doesnt include the handlebars then i opt for dogmaF
take the black one, cause the white one is exact copy of aethos with cable entry in the downtube (topheadset is not 52mm)... black one is full internal (topheadset is 52mm) and needs a good headset(kocevlo full handlebar with headset is i think fits on this aethos https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006561735597.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006561735597.html))...
aethos black full internal cable headset 52mm
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004659511046.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004659511046.html)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005004607903.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005004607903.html)
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last night ride...
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my first experience of carbon item from aliexpress was the rim brake wheelset (dura-ace) from Zhou Shi Jun (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004941919441.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004941919441.html)) and he has frames of dogmaF and even painted Aeroad before in his Store... when I decided to get the frame, it's not listed anymore so he said he has another store that lists the aeroad and dogmaF.... thats "ride love"...
aethos clone also one of my option but doesnt include the handlebars then i opt for dogmaF
take the black one, cause the white one is exact copy of aethos with cable entry in the downtube (topheadset is not 52mm)... black one is full internal (topheadset is 52mm) and needs a good headset(kocevlo full handlebar with headset is i think fits on this aethos https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006561735597.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006561735597.html))...
aethos black full internal cable headset 52mm
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004659511046.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004659511046.html)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005004607903.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005004607903.html)
I'm still on the fence if I want the full internal or semi-internal cabling Aethos clone. Full internal looks nicer, but it's a hassle when flying with a bike box. How was the buying experience from that seller? How long did it take to prep and ship your bike?
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I'm still on the fence if I want the full internal or semi-internal cabling Aethos clone. Full internal looks nicer, but it's a hassle when flying with a bike box. How was the buying experience from that seller? How long did it take to prep and ship your bike?
for the frame, placed last 31st March and he showed me photos by 29th April then start to get logistics update by 5th May and reached to collection center by 15th May... 45days total and its reasonable...
i didnt pressure the shipment since i want at least the paint works to be at best possible result and so far, its fine ;)
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Any updates bro? Dont leave us hanging in the dark? :D
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Any updates bro? Dont leave us hanging in the dark? :D
went for a month of annual break...
getting back on my bike after a month...
tires are dead flat ;D
bought a magene C606+H303+S314 and tested today...
i love the data related to pedal balance, left 46% right 54%
well the bike still seduces me to pedal harder ;D ;D ;D ;D
no issues yet until now...
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Really nice build, love it!. I contacted the store to know if they are going to be producing the 2025 "dogma" F and said in about 3 months.
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sweat ride today...
adjusted the headset as i feel there's a gap/play... tightened and seems okay now...
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that's a really low average speed given the D+. If you put Conti GP5000 tyres instead of these Kenda, you will probably go a lot faster for the same effort. Either tubeless, or run with aliexpress TPU tubes. The bike will also feel much nicer to ride. Pretty much guaranteed. Upgrading from poor tyres may be the best upgrade one can do on a bike. In Europe the non tubeless version costs around 45 eur per tyre, and they're made in germany.
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The 2024 version is here
Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out!
US $792.16 | NEW F 2025 TOP carbon frame F14 Bottom BSA (BB68) threaded carbon road bike frame Disc Brake carbon bike frame Shipping free
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyYHOox
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The 2024 version is here
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyYHOox
I love it. Especially the store name "14 year old store", registered since... March 2024.
The troll in me would love to buy one, I'm really curious about how it rides. I'm heavy, fat and slow, even if it's 80pc as good as the real one, I'd be the limiting factor. Having built 9 Chinese bikes in short order, I feel that while building I'd get a good sense of whether it would self destruct while riding or not.
I don't even like pinarello. I'd probably put a "pizzaiolo" logo on it with the pinarello font.
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The ease of build, and tolerances like caliper mounts and how the headset top cap interfaces with the headtube, are usually good indicators of how the frame will ride.
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I wish and hope that my build will last a thousand miles...
I already tried my build on some climbs(june 7th) on which i said it is more stiff than my old bike...
my power and speed on the new bike is better than my old...
i dont know maybe i am more excited to ride the new one ;D ;D ;D ;D
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here's my old bike... just to have a reference on the "ride feel" difference...
power meter is the same as i only transfer from old to new build.. 2watts better on the new bike...
the speed is a bit doubtful on the new bike as i only refer on the GPS speedo of the computer while the old one uses some wheel speed sensor...
both ride uses the same computer...
the big difference is the "ride feel" against the old bike...
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The 2024 version is here
Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out!
US $792.16 | NEW F 2025 TOP carbon frame F14 Bottom BSA (BB68) threaded carbon road bike frame Disc Brake carbon bike frame Shipping free
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyYHOox
quite expensive for me ;D
check this store(QILEFU Official Store), this is the same group of "Zhou Shi Jun Store" & "RIDELOVE Store".... but the same as my build, old chinarello ;D
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007092067274.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007092067274.html)
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just to update...
log around thousand kms already(but only +700kms on my c606 the rest on my bc107...
able to ride my first grand fondo with this build... im dead ;D ;D ;D
my update with my builds...
to remove my doubts on my headset, i bought spacer set to add 10mm to create enough space between top cap and the expander plug...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005944813480.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005944813480.html)
My TPU blew while in the garage due to the weak PVC rim tape I bought! I always inflate to 80 PSI before riding. I’m not sure if my pump meter is broken, but luckily it didn’t happen during my gran fondo.
so now, i replace even the rear wheel with a rim tape for tubeless that comes along with the rim, i hope it will not be like the pvc tape.
uhhh my STI nameplate on the left side was gone... waiting for this replacement come and ride again...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006471931257.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006471931257.html)
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After almost six months of riding my Chinarello for over 1,600 km without any issues...
I made a couple of changes.
I replaced the brake rotor with an MT800 and the pads with L05A because the Zrace set was squeaking. I’m not sure if the noise was coming from the rotor or the pads.
I also swapped the bottle cage for a Bontrager copy instead of the Propel copy. The seat tube bottle was hitting the down tube, but the Bontrager cage resolves that issue.
I hope to ride for another 5,000 km in 2025!
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I think the propel cages match the frame better. I actually put them on all my drop bar bikes because of you (all pinarello clones (2x Dogma F, 1x Grevil F). I got the AirTag version for the down tube.
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quite expensive for me ;D
check this store(QILEFU Official Store), this is the same group of "Zhou Shi Jun Store" & "RIDELOVE Store".... but the same as my build, old chinarello ;D
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007092067274.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007092067274.html)
Avoid those store for the love of god. They have lert store aswell. Tried them and I'm one of the negative comments there. Not sure if it's carbon they sell or plastic rofl
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Avoid those store for the love of god. They have lert store aswell. Tried them and I'm one of the negative comments there. Not sure if it's carbon they sell or plastic rofl
Off topic : How ended your BB shell problem with Yohobike ?
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Avoid those store for the love of god. They have lert store aswell. Tried them and I'm one of the negative comments there. Not sure if it's carbon they sell or plastic rofl
Which store exactly did you buy from? And was that the Specialized clone that disintegrated?
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Which store exactly did you buy from? And was that the Specialized clone that disintegrated?
LERT Store bought wheels there, they were crap. Same owner as all the above stores.. the SL8 issue well the seller is replacing it at no costs
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it's not listed anymore so he said he has another store that lists the aeroad and dogmaF.... thats "ride love"...
I have bought lots from that store (RideLove) over the years and never had a bad experience. A little slow at times but arrived eventually.
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I reckon they're all resellers, so the quality of their products may vary.
Since I liked the geometry of my rim brake VB-R218 a lot, I was tempted to get a disc version. VB however do not sell my size anymore and clear out their stock, so I needed to look elsewhere. After much back and forth with the QILEFU store, I decided to give them a try. It was helped by the fact that Aliexpress offered free return on the frame. The seller confirmed that I would have the option, even though they asked me not to order if I was planning on returning it (because they're likely never going to actually get it back).
I'm very pleasantly surprised by the frameset. It's lighter than my VB-R218. Paint quality is better except for some minor imperfections. All the accessories, like the headset cover, the C clip, the cover on the underside of the handlebar, the stem and seatpost wedges are actually of better quality with no sharp edges that needed any sanding. No sharp edges on the entry and exit holes on the handlebar. The plastic parts are reassuringly stiff and visibly made of glass fiber reinforced material. On my VB-R218, the plastic cover on the underside of the handlebar bends if you tighten the screws, for instance. It doesn't do that on this frame.
The BB threads were clean. The only thing I needed to do is sand the rear flatmount tabs to get the rear brake perfectly aligned. The fork was fine from the get go. The build as pictured weighs 7.9kg in a size XXL with pedals and all accessories. That's fine with me as some of the stuff on this bike could still be lighter.
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Also the FD hanger is bolt on instead of riveted to the frame. So you can take the hanger off if you want to.
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how is the stiffness of the frame / handlebar when you put the power on?
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Pretty much middle ground and the same compared to my rim brake version. I found this frame to be stiff on the front end. BB is sort of middle of the road. Not the stiffest I ever had and also not the flexiest. Rear end and seatpost are somewhat flexy which is in line with what I read about the actual Dogma. There’s no worrying amount of flex anywhere. Also no rotor rub when standing up on the climbs and putting the power down so that’s good.
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Was just wondering how you were able to route the FD cable? I’m thinking of building one up with mechanical also.
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Have anyone seen an F frame in 595mm?