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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: erallen30 on August 13, 2024, 03:44:20 PM
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Anyone purchase this frameset? :
https://icancycling.com/collections/road-bike-frame/products/flyee-road-bike-frame
I know Hambini did a review of the A022 frameset and it seemed to be of good quality for the price. If anyone has purchased the Flyee I'd love to know your thoughts.
Thanks,
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I'm curious to hear more about this one too! I can't find any pictures of it fully built :/
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I'm curious to hear more about this one too! I can't find any pictures of it fully built :/
They just released it about a month or so ago. They currently only have size 52 available but are producing more sizes in a few weeks. May pull the trigger.
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Looks like orbea orca clone
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Looks like orbea orca clone
Good eye. Does look super similar. I checked Orbea Orca geometry and they are indeed very close with most measurements.
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Anyone purchase this frameset? :
https://icancycling.com/collections/road-bike-frame/products/flyee-road-bike-frame
I know Hambini did a review of the A022 frameset and it seemed to be of good quality for the price. If anyone has purchased the Flyee I'd love to know your thoughts.
Thanks,
Did you purchase the frame? I bet you can hose that bike all day long with 105 Di2! I'm sure the carbon quality of the ICAN frame will stand up to the abuse.
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Did you purchase the frame? I bet you can hose that bike all day long with 105 Di2! I'm sure the carbon quality of the ICAN frame will stand up to the abuse.
Haven't purchased yet. Strongly considering though.
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yeah, also strongly considering this one... I got excited about a new bike build project and already started buying some components. Normally I'm all about blue bikes but I really like the red Flyee and luckily 52 is my size. Also I think ICAN Flyee is a hilarious bike name XD
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yeah, also strongly considering this one... I got excited about a new bike build project and already started buying some components. Normally I'm all about blue bikes but I really like the red Flyee and luckily 52 is my size. Also I think ICAN Flyee is a hilarious bike name XD
You an also get a custom paint job. It's a new feature on their website.
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Those frames look really good, did not have a chance to ride them but at least from what I've heard graro is top quality. This frame should be also good. Hope they'll continue with some more models. Maybe a nice semi aero bike without very low stack typical for Chinese frames. I much prefer the new school with slightly higher stack which helps me get comfortably into aero position.
I really like what Ican is showing recently. Good frames in competitive prices, without all that bullshit. I much prefer this over the overshilled tavelo that is twice the price .
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Those frames look really good, did not have a chance to ride them but at least from what I've heard graro is top quality. This frame should be also good. Hope they'll continue with some more models. Maybe a nice semi aero bike without very low stack typical for Chinese frames. I much prefer the new school with slightly higher stack which helps me get comfortably into aero position.
I really like what Ican is showing recently. Good frames in competitive prices, without all that bullshit. I much prefer this over the overshilled tavelo that is twice the price .
Stack is pretty high on the Flyee. 59 cm for the size XL.
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Stack is pretty high on the Flyee. 59 cm for the size XL.
And I hope they'll go this way in their new frames when they'll come out
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I've been eyeing ICAN frames for a long time and I somewhat impulsively ordered a Flyee frameset and FL38 wheelset over the weekend. Not sure yet when it will arrive (to California), but my ideal timeline is to have the whole thing together by the end of September. I'll keep you all posted with the progress. Hopefully its better than my previous venture with the Onirii frame which was okay but not great. The Flyee will be a weird mash up of groupsets since I need to get rid of some 1x crank parts but I think I can get it under 15lbs :)
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loving the geo of this frame. finally another stack that isn't tiny.
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I've been eyeing ICAN frames for a long time and I somewhat impulsively ordered a Flyee frameset and FL38 wheelset over the weekend. Not sure yet when it will arrive (to California), but my ideal timeline is to have the whole thing together by the end of September. I'll keep you all posted with the progress. Hopefully its better than my previous venture with the Onirii frame which was okay but not great. The Flyee will be a weird mash up of groupsets since I need to get rid of some 1x crank parts but I think I can get it under 15lbs :)
Awesome. So many things to like about this frameset. T47 bottom bracket should prevent any issues. Nice to have a round 27.2 mm seatpost as well IMO.
Did you get the HB021 with it as well? Will be interesting to see how the build comes along.
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Did you get the HB021 with it as well? Will be interesting to see how the build comes along.
No. When I bought the Onirii One frameset earlier this year they sent me the wrong barstem size so I ended up getting a second one. I figured I would just use the original, wrong-size one for this bike even though its a little long for me. ICAN's HB021 barstem doesn't have a lot of size options either. For me their sizes are all either too wide or the stem is too short.
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No. When I bought the Onirii One frameset earlier this year they sent me the wrong barstem size so I ended up getting a second one. I figured I would just use the original, wrong-size one for this bike even though its a little long for me. ICAN's HB021 barstem doesn't have a lot of size options either. For me their sizes are all either too wide or the stem is too short.
Nice. If you were interested in the HB21 they have more sizes than listed. I asked specifically about a 40cm x 120mm and they said they had it.
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sigh* ICAN sent my frame out hella fast and yesterday UPS estimated it would be delivered today but when I checked the tracking today, UPS said the packaged was damaged and they are contacting the seller. I'm guessing they will need to re-ship it :/ Kudos to them for being so fast though. Also, I appreciate UPS contacted them instead of just delivering it to me damaged and making me do the work.
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sigh* ICAN sent my frame out hella fast and yesterday UPS estimated it would be delivered today but when I checked the tracking today, UPS said the packaged was damaged and they are contacting the seller. I'm guessing they will need to re-ship it :/ Kudos to them for being so fast though. Also, I appreciate UPS contacted them instead of just delivering it to me damaged and making me do the work.
Damn that sucks. Hope it all ends well.
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Brand and model name really gives off R Kelly cringe.
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Did anyone receive their Flyee yet? I curious to hear your thoughts on ride quality and dynamics.
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I like this frame if I were looking for an all-arounder. Though for a climbing frame, the ICAN FL1 frameset (Aethos clone) is cheaper and weighs 100g less. It has almost the same features of T47 BB, 32c tire clearance, but no UDH. Also ICAN customer service seems pretty good. I would definitely consider buying from them in the future.
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FLYEE FRAME:
After a bit of a delay, I just got the frame. UPS sent the damaged one back (it was never delivered to me, plus it was nice not to having to deal with a broken frame) and ICAN sent a replacement. Shipping was $128 USD to California but they do ship very fast, it only took a few days.
THE BAD:
They did not face the BB or disc caliper mounts. Also the seatpost cradle is made of carbon, not a huge fan of that. I'd prefer they make it from aluminum even if it adds some weight. Might try to find a different seatpost.
The biggest issue is the front thru axle, I'm going to need to contact ICAN about it. I removed the front thru axle from the fork and it was way too tight in there. When I got it out, I could see the very first thread is stripped. Those threads in the fork will need to be tapped. When I tried to put the axle back in with grease it was taking way too much torque still and I decided not to force it. So... as is, it's unusable. Also the front axle has a 1.5mm thread pitch while the rear has a 1mm pitch which is a little weird. It would be nice if they were the same. (Rear axle threads are good, no complaints there).
THE GOOD:
The seatpost's fit into the seat tube seems decent. It is tight enough that it does not slide on it's own but it also does not scratch it or take a ton of effort to move it up and down. The little clamping wedge seems nice, no burs or anything. I like that the screw is at an angle so it's easier to access.
Paint looks nice. And from what little I can see, the carbon looks pretty smooth on the inside.
I haven't had a chance to weigh frame parts yet but I'll try to come back with weights later today or tomorrow.
FL38 MAX WHEELS:
test rode them on a different bike and they felt fine, no complaints. I put them in the truing stand and was just eyeballing it but the dishing, truing, and roundness all looked to be within less than half a millimeter. I weighted them and the scale said they were exactly 1300.0g (untaped). The tape they sent with the wheels kept tearing so I ended up using some DT Swiss tape I had lying around. Apparently the DT Swiss tape is heavier. I weight an ICAN taped wheel and a DT swiss taped wheel. The DT swiss tape added about 15g compared to 8g with the ICAN tape.
Overall I hoped for slightly better quality from ICAN but I'm optimistic that once everything is put together it will all work fine and the issues will not be noticeable to anyone who did not build the bike.
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Here's a couple pictures
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WEIGHTS
Frame (M/52) - 880g with all bottle cage bolts and FD mount
Fork - 362g uncut
Thru Axles - 32g front, 50g rear
Seatpost - 140g, 400mm long. Very light for how long it is, I'm still sketched out by the carbon yoke. I'll look for an alternative.
Seatpost Wedge with Rubber Cap - 24g
Expander Plug - 38g
Headset Bearings - 64g for the pair.
Top Cap + Bolt - 14g
FD Mount with two bolts - 12g
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FLYEE FRAME:
After a bit of a delay, I just got the frame. UPS sent the damaged one back (it was never delivered to me, plus it was nice not to having to deal with a broken frame) and ICAN sent a replacement. Shipping was $128 USD to California but they do ship very fast, it only took a few days.
THE BAD:
They did not face the BB or disc caliper mounts. Also the seatpost cradle is made of carbon, not a huge fan of that. I'd prefer they make it from aluminum even if it adds some weight. Might try to find a different seatpost.
The biggest issue is the front thru axle, I'm going to need to contact ICAN about it. I removed the front thru axle from the fork and it was way too tight in there. When I got it out, I could see the very first thread is stripped. Those threads in the fork will need to be tapped. When I tried to put the axle back in with grease it was taking way too much torque still and I decided not to force it. So... as is, it's unusable. Also the front axle has a 1.5mm thread pitch while the rear has a 1mm pitch which is a little weird. It would be nice if they were the same. (Rear axle threads are good, no complaints there).
THE GOOD:
The seatpost's fit into the seat tube seems decent. It is tight enough that it does not slide on it's own but it also does not scratch it or take a ton of effort to move it up and down. The little clamping wedge seems nice, no burs or anything. I like that the screw is at an angle so it's easier to access.
Paint looks nice. And from what little I can see, the carbon looks pretty smooth on the inside.
I haven't had a chance to weigh frame parts yet but I'll try to come back with weights later today or tomorrow.
FL38 MAX WHEELS:
test rode them on a different bike and they felt fine, no complaints. I put them in the truing stand and was just eyeballing it but the dishing, truing, and roundness all looked to be within less than half a millimeter. I weighted them and the scale said they were exactly 1300.0g (untaped). The tape they sent with the wheels kept tearing so I ended up using some DT Swiss tape I had lying around. Apparently the DT Swiss tape is heavier. I weight an ICAN taped wheel and a DT swiss taped wheel. The DT swiss tape added about 15g compared to 8g with the ICAN tape.
Overall I hoped for slightly better quality from ICAN but I'm optimistic that once everything is put together it will all work fine and the issues will not be noticeable to anyone who did not build the bike.
Bike looks really nice. Too bad about the front fork threads. Hopefully that can be rectified somehow. Bearing races and paint look really good.
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WEIGHTS
Frame (M/52) - 880g with all bottle cage bolts and FD mount
Fork - 362g uncut
Thru Axles - 32g front, 50g rear
Seatpost - 140g, 400mm long. Very light for how long it is, I'm still sketched out by the carbon yoke. I'll look for an alternative.
Seatpost Wedge with Rubber Cap - 24g
Expander Plug - 38g
Headset Bearings - 64g for the pair.
Top Cap + Bolt - 14g
FD Mount with two bolts - 12g
Nice to see the compression plug come with a metal spring instead of a stupid rubber o-ring that breaks on first install.
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WEIGHTS
Frame (M/52) - 880g with all bottle cage bolts and FD mount
Fork - 362g uncut
Thru Axles - 32g front, 50g rear
Seatpost - 140g, 400mm long. Very light for how long it is, I'm still sketched out by the carbon yoke. I'll look for an alternative.
Seatpost Wedge with Rubber Cap - 24g
Expander Plug - 38g
Headset Bearings - 64g for the pair.
Top Cap + Bolt - 14g
FD Mount with two bolts - 12g
Looks like you'd only need a new front axle, no? That stripped thread is what is making it difficult to turn.
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FLYEE FRAME:
After a bit of a delay, I just got the frame. UPS sent the damaged one back (it was never delivered to me, plus it was nice not to having to deal with a broken frame) and ICAN sent a replacement. Shipping was $128 USD to California but they do ship very fast, it only took a few days.
THE BAD:
They did not face the BB or disc caliper mounts. Also the seatpost cradle is made of carbon, not a huge fan of that. I'd prefer they make it from aluminum even if it adds some weight. Might try to find a different seatpost.
The biggest issue is the front thru axle, I'm going to need to contact ICAN about it. I removed the front thru axle from the fork and it was way too tight in there. When I got it out, I could see the very first thread is stripped. Those threads in the fork will need to be tapped. When I tried to put the axle back in with grease it was taking way too much torque still and I decided not to force it. So... as is, it's unusable. Also the front axle has a 1.5mm thread pitch while the rear has a 1mm pitch which is a little weird. It would be nice if they were the same. (Rear axle threads are good, no complaints there).
THE GOOD:
The seatpost's fit into the seat tube seems decent. It is tight enough that it does not slide on it's own but it also does not scratch it or take a ton of effort to move it up and down. The little clamping wedge seems nice, no burs or anything. I like that the screw is at an angle so it's easier to access.
Paint looks nice. And from what little I can see, the carbon looks pretty smooth on the inside.
I haven't had a chance to weigh frame parts yet but I'll try to come back with weights later today or tomorrow.
FL38 MAX WHEELS:
test rode them on a different bike and they felt fine, no complaints. I put them in the truing stand and was just eyeballing it but the dishing, truing, and roundness all looked to be within less than half a millimeter. I weighted them and the scale said they were exactly 1300.0g (untaped). The tape they sent with the wheels kept tearing so I ended up using some DT Swiss tape I had lying around. Apparently the DT Swiss tape is heavier. I weight an ICAN taped wheel and a DT swiss taped wheel. The DT swiss tape added about 15g compared to 8g with the ICAN tape.
Overall I hoped for slightly better quality from ICAN but I'm optimistic that once everything is put together it will all work fine and the issues will not be noticeable to anyone who did not build the bike.
Is it usual to face BB shell with T47?
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Looks like you'd only need a new front axle, no? That stripped thread is what is making it difficult to turn.
I'm pretty sure the threads in the fork are messed up, they look okay but maybe there's some clear coat in there or something. I tried a different through axle and it went in about a third of the way and then hit some serious resistance. I talked to ICAN and we came to the conclusion that I'll get the M12x1.5mm tap, do it myself, and if I screw it up they'll send me a new fork. I'm fairly confident in my tapping skills, so I think that is definitely the speediest solution. I was really hoping ICAN would just do a fantastic job and I wouldn't have to worry about any of this though :/ My image of them having super excellent quality and quality control is definitely damaged. I'm remaining optimistic that once it is built it will be great though. Right now I'm still waiting on parts, I don't think it'll be finished for another few weeks.
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Is it usual to face BB shell with T47?
I think its commonly neglected but still important, even for threaded bottom brackets. With a faced bb you'll get a quieter/smoother ride, longer lasting bearings, and less opportunity for grit to enter the system.
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I'm pretty sure the threads in the fork are messed up, they look okay but maybe there's some clear coat in there or something. I tried a different through axle and it went in about a third of the way and then hit some serious resistance. I talked to ICAN and we came to the conclusion that I'll get the M12x1.5mm tap, do it myself, and if I screw it up they'll send me a new fork. I'm fairly confident in my tapping skills, so I think that is definitely the speediest solution. I was really hoping ICAN would just do a fantastic job and I wouldn't have to worry about any of this though :/ My image of them having super excellent quality and quality control is definitely damaged. I'm remaining optimistic that once it is built it will be great though. Right now I'm still waiting on parts, I don't think it'll be finished for another few weeks.
Hmmm. Think maybe the holes are misaligned?
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Damn, that's a beautiful frame :) The weight is also OK.
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Wish they could just get the basics right. Frustrating to see basic quality issues still popping up.
Still a nice looking frame. Love the geo.
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I was able to re-tap the threads and that seems to have fixed one issue, the thru axle threads are stripped and I need a new one though (ICAN said they would send one). The tap was doing a lot of work, definitely took more cutting fluid than I expected to get through... It was pretty rough in there. And that tap cost $43. If I didn't have access to the machine shop at my work and have all these these tools on hand I would definitely be less inclined to buy relatively untested framesets.
The original thru axle won't thread in but I tried one from a different bike and that one threads in fine now.
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I was able to re-tap the threads and that seems to have fixed one issue, the thru axle threads are stripped and I need a new one though (ICAN said they would send one). The tap was doing a lot of work, definitely took more cutting fluid than I expected to get through... It was pretty rough in there. And that tap cost $43. If I didn't have access to the machine shop at my work and have all these these tools on hand I would definitely be less inclined to buy relatively untested framesets.
The original thru axle won't thread in but I tried one from a different bike and that one threads in fine now.
my experience with the thru axles that come with chinese frames is a bit meh, especially when used with dt hubs that usually require more torque than the axles can spec. i always end up just using dt thru axles. they're cheap and good.
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I was able to re-tap the threads and that seems to have fixed one issue, the thru axle threads are stripped and I need a new one though (ICAN said they would send one). The tap was doing a lot of work, definitely took more cutting fluid than I expected to get through... It was pretty rough in there. And that tap cost $43. If I didn't have access to the machine shop at my work and have all these these tools on hand I would definitely be less inclined to buy relatively untested framesets.
The original thru axle won't thread in but I tried one from a different bike and that one threads in fine now.
Glad you were able to get it sorted on your own. Hopefully ICAN can resolve that issue in future production. Will be nice to learn how it rides and if any other problems arise while riding.
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especially when used with dt hubs that usually require more torque than the axles can spec. i always end up just using dt thru axles.
This is interesting. I've notice a few of my Chinese wheels using the 1st-Gen DT Swiss style design have a tiny bit of play. Specifically on my Giant Propel. This initially start happening on my first set of Magene wheels, so I assumed the issue was isolated. Figured maybe the end caps were sloppy. But it does the same on the second pair. Third time on a set of wheels from a different brand using the same hubs.
Giant recommends 11nm for their thru axles. Any more than that would make it tough to change a puncture on the side of the road. Perhaps the issue all along are the thru axles. Thanks.
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This is interesting. I've notice a few of my Chinese wheels using the 1st-Gen DT Swiss style design have a tiny bit of play. Specifically on my Giant Propel. This initially start happening on my first set of Magene wheels, so I assumed the issue was isolated. Figured maybe the end caps were sloppy. But it does the same on the second pair. Third time on a set of wheels from a different brand using the same hubs.
Giant recommends 11nm for their thru axles. Any more than that would make it tough to change a puncture on the side of the road. Perhaps the issue all along are the thru axles. Thanks.
I have the peak power of a gorilla and ftp of a newborn baby, so the first thing I get is brake rub if the axles aren't done tight enough. Most of the Chinese frames I've had come with those crappy 10Nm axles and I get the play like you mentioned and brake rub. DT recommend 15-20Nm. I do them at 15Nm and that is fine with no issues. No idea how anyone could possibly undo them with the pissy little handles they supply, probably need to stand on them. I actually carry around a regular length 6mm Wera hex key in my saddle bag for roadside.
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DT recommend 15-20Nm. I do them at 15Nm and that is fine with no issues. No idea how anyone could possibly undo them with the pissy little handles they supply, probably need to stand on them. I actually carry around a regular length 6mm Wera hex key in my saddle bag for roadside.
That's funny. I stopped carry a multi-tool years ago, in favor of standard length 4, 5, and 6mm hex keys myself. Gonna add those Wera hex key to the wishlist...
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I finished the build over the weekend. Unfortunately I have some small health problems that are keeping me from doing any serious riding right now so I haven't been able to fully test it out beyond a couple small 2-4 mile rides around town. So far I don't have any thoughts on how stiff it is or is not. It feels bumpy because I used the 25c tires I've had lying around for over a year (I'm pretty devoted to 32c tires). When I can do more riding I think I will test it with a different wheelset that has wider tires because 25c feels hella squirrely to me. I'll try to do a better review on how it rides after I've been able to get some solid miles on it, but that might might still be several months down the line.
The bike does have some odd things that might be nice for ICAN to change in future versions:
1) The radius at the tip of the fork, around where the thru axle threads in, is really small. Small to the point that the heads of most thru axles will stick out a bit around the edge ever so slightly. It would be nicer if it was designed in a away that the thru axle could sit flush inside an indent like the rear one does. Plus its weird that the front/rear axles have different thread pitches.
2) Specific to me as a rider: I have semi-collapsed arches that cause my knees to go inward slightly when I pedal and its pretty common that my knees will brush against the top tube which feels extra weird because of how sharp the angle is on this frame's particularly flat toptube.
3) They did not include a chainstay protector which is not the worst but would have been nice to have.
4) Not a fan of the carbon cradle on the seatpost. I swapped it with a metal one from a seatpost that was lying around at home.
5) There is no Di2 specific hole for a rear derailleur, you have to use the one indented for mechanical drivetrains. I used a zip-tie to hold the cable down to the chainstay which does not looks all that elegant but mostly works (there are separate Di2 and mechanical holes for a front derailleur.)
6) Nothing on the frame was faced, but that's to be expected at this price point. I'm just picky.
7) The whole issue with the stripped threads on the fork.
Things I do like:
1) Looks super neat
2) Frame seemed very clean inside, it was easy to route the hydraulic hoses and Di2 cables. Other than the issue with the fork threads, building it was a breeze.
3) T47bb is superior to BSA, imo.
4) I like the geometry, especially the bigger headtube. Most bikes my size have a 120-130mm headtube, this one is 144mm. If slamming your stem makes you feel cool, more folks could probably do that with this frame.
5) The UDH is nice.
6) Big tire clearance. I put on a wheelset with 32C tires and there is still plenty of room, I bet you could fit 35c if you really wanted to go all out.
7) I put this as a pro because it was a fun side project for me and a humble bragging point - I got to design and 3d print the top and bottom spacers for the headset. I had injection molded parts I could have used but the OD of the headtube was 57mm and I think the bottom spacer that came with the barstem was 56mm. It looked a little weird. The mating features on the top spacer that came with the barstem didn't really fit them right either (these were the bars that came with the Onirii One frameset I built earlier this year - they are not from ICAN).
ICAN sent me a new front thru axle but the tracking they gave me has not updated in 10 days so who knows where it is. Right now I am using the front axle from my gravel bike which is a couple mm short (another reason not to do any serious riding on it yet).
It seems like a fine bike and it does look great. It was cloudy when I took the photos so they mostly don't do the paint job justice but it looks beautiful in the sun. I built it 1x because I had 1x chainrings I needed to do something with. It has a 42t front chainring and a 11-42t cassette so it has that 1:1 great ratio that is nice for a climby bike. The top end is limited though. One of those gearing calculators told me that it would top out around 33mph (at 110rpm). It's a slightly weird build and definitely not a race bike but I figure its an excellent bike for a climbing enthusiast that is not crazy about dare-devil descending or doing huge watts on the flats. It could be good for a climby road race with a hilltop finish I suppose. Plus you can build yours however you want :)
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Nice build! Is there a weight limit and/or no-weight warning for that top tube? Looks really thin from the side view. Also I'd consider a 10-42t cassette if possible. At least for mechanical GRX, shifting with the 10t cog isn't a problem. Spedao makes a lightweight 10-42t 11 speed cassette, and I've had no issues with it. You can also drop down on the chainring if you want more climbing gears.
This frame is definitely on my radar now. Thanks for posting your build process!
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I don't really know why, but that frame definitely looks a real step up compared to most of the 500-700EUR frames on Ali. If you would put "TREK" on it, I think you could fool a lot of people into thinking it is a big brand expensive frame.
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I don't really know why, but that frame definitely looks a real step up compared to most of the 500-700EUR frames on Ali. If you would put "TREK" on it, I think you could fool a lot of people into thinking it is a big brand expensive frame.
Or ORBEA because it's basically a copy of the new orca
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an Orca/Flyee comparison photo, for everyone's viewing pleasure :)
you can play "spot the difference" !
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I like neither.
I find both headtubes to be ugly, especially the flyee.
the flyee seat post is ugly
the forks are too skinny compared to the steerer / spcaers / cockpit area, especially the orca.
the seat stay - seat tube junction looks nicer on the orca, but it's much (MUCH) nicer on a trek emonda or a look.
The top tube look impossibly thin on both (and the seat stays too), which doesnt inspire confidence, nor does it look nice.
I also dont think the wheels are deep enough, but that's just me :)
The look of the head tube is a deal breaker for me.
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I like neither.
I find both headtubes to be ugly, especially the flyee.
the flyee seat post is ugly
the forks are too skinny compared to the steerer / spcaers / cockpit area, especially the orca.
the seat stay - seat tube junction looks nicer on the orca, but it's much (MUCH) nicer on a trek emonda or a look.
The top tube look impossibly thin on both (and the seat stays too), which doesnt inspire confidence, nor does it look nice.
I also dont think the wheels are deep enough, but that's just me :)
The look of the head tube is a deal breaker for me.
Serge_K, I'm interested in what you think are the best looking framesets from China.
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Infinitely subjective, but i like these 2, for example. I think the Emonda is like the old cannondale supersix, there's a timelessness to it i really like.
And i think Factor makes pretty bikes, not just the paint jobs, but their shape is balanced.
i dont think the Aethos looks nice, and i think the SL6-7-8 looks very bland (i think the venge looked nicer). I think they lack character. Maybe people who ride Specialized lack character too? :p
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I agree. The Ostro is well balanced visually. I just wish the seatstay had more angularity to it. It looks a bit soft where it connects to the seat tube. Great bike.
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Any feedback on the ride quality with this frame please?
I'm on the fence between this frame and the Elves Eglath. I was considering the Vanyar Pro, but I found many reviews stating it is stiff in the rear-end - exactly what I want to avoid with this new build. Eglath is said to be very comfy, which I would value (secondary bike, left at parents' home near the mountains).
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HI, I wanted to buy Vanyar, but the frame is rather very heavy...I need 59 size. I was considering FL1 Ican, never have I found the review. The frame looks very nice. I believe that it is also lighter than FLyee
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HI, I wanted to buy Vanyar, but the frame is rather very heavy...I need 59 size. I was considering FL1 Ican, never have I found the review. The frame looks very nice. I believe that it is also lighter than FLyee
I've Just ordered a fl01, they said Will be shipped this week
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I planned to buy SLC3, but the Winspace cannot even reply to one of my comment, so thank you ;) Still fighting, on the table I have now: FL1, Vanyar, and new Tantan TTX67, but the last one, I need to wait until February 2025 :/
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HI, I wanted to buy Vanyar, but the frame is rather very heavy...I need 59 size. I was considering FL1 Ican, never have I found the review. The frame looks very nice. I believe that it is also lighter than FLyee
Check weighweenies forum
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I have checked, however there is only one completed bike, and that is all. I would like to have at least some kind of very short summary, review with information, nice bike, stiff, just buy it, or not buy it. There is no detailed information. I know at the moment that FL1 is light and not bad looking :D
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I wish I had more of a ride quality report for my flyee build but I had surgery on my lung two months ago and have not been able to ride. It'll probably be a couple more months before I can really put it through the paces. The main thing I can say is that, in the few rides I have done, nothing has really bothered me, the ride quality seems fine, I have no complaints but I also have not given it the beans. It fits big tires, I want to say I squeezed 35c tires onto it but its not a squeeze at all, there's still room to go bigger.
Hopefully I'll have a more full report in a few months.
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I wish I had more of a ride quality report for my flyee build but I had surgery on my lung two months ago and have not been able to ride. It'll probably be a couple more months before I can really put it through the paces. The main thing I can say is that, in the few rides I have done, nothing has really bothered me, the ride quality seems fine, I have no complaints but I also have not given it the beans. It fits big tires, I want to say I squeezed 35c tires onto it but its not a squeeze at all, there's still room to go bigger.
Hopefully I'll have a more full report in a few months.
Painting quality is impressive.
Is there generous space around the rear tire as well?
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Infinitely subjective, but i like these 2, for example. I think the Emonda is like the old cannondale supersix, there's a timelessness to it i really like.
And i think Factor makes pretty bikes, not just the paint jobs, but their shape is balanced.
i dont think the Aethos looks nice, and i think the SL6-7-8 looks very bland (i think the venge looked nicer). I think they lack character. Maybe people who ride Specialized lack character too? :p
Im hoping someone gets "inspired" by the new O2 VAM. That is one pretty bike
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Is there generous space around the rear tire as well?
yes, I'd say there is about the same amount of clearance in the rear.
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yes, I'd say there is about the same amount of clearance in the rear.
Thanks. I'm going to ask them for custom painting.
Fingers crossed for your fast recovery
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Brand and model name really gives off R Kelly cringe.
I don't see nothing wrong with the model and name.
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Any feedback on the ride quality with this frame please?
I'm on the fence between this frame and the Elves Eglath. I was considering the Vanyar Pro, but I found many reviews stating it is stiff in the rear-end - exactly what I want to avoid with this new build. Eglath is said to be very comfy, which I would value (secondary bike, left at parents' home near the mountains).
I had my boyfriend ride the Flyee since I'm not really riding atm and the fit is better for him anyways. He works in a shop that sells a lot of high end, brand name bikes (Colnago, Pinarello, Enve, Wilier etc.) so he gets the opportunity to test ride a lot of different bikes/geometries on a regular basis and has much more nuanced sense of bike geometry than I do. He did a small sprint and asked "does this frame have short chainstays? It feels very snappy and responsive in the back" and I said "yes, they're 408mm." He Also mentioned that he liked how the front end felt and mentioned that if felt like it had a steep head tube angle. I responded that the headtube is not that steep (72 degrees), but the rake is 44mm so that is probably what he was feeling. He likes that twitchy, responsive feeling but mentioned it might not be for everyone.
Overall he said the bike is pretty snappy and accelerates quickly.
From looking at the Elgath frameset, it has very similar geometry to the Flyee, they both have higher stack, short chainstays and not much rake on the fork so they should handle similarly. The major difference is that the Elves frameset is $100 cheaper and says it only has clearance for up to 28c tires, I managed to fit 35c onto the flyee without issue. If you want bigger tires, definitely go for the Flyee.