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Title: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on September 20, 2024, 08:47:51 AM
Have anyone of you guys tried this? And if so - how is it?

I tried reaching out, but I got no answer from them (tried Yushin aswell). Any tips on how I can actually buy it?
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: PLA on September 20, 2024, 01:37:32 PM
I've got a spare unused one in 36cm you can have if you want
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on September 20, 2024, 02:15:37 PM
I've got a spare unused one in 36cm you can have if you want

Nice of you! Thank you. But I’m in need of a 40 cm :)

How come you not using it? Remember what you paid for it?
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: PLA on September 20, 2024, 09:02:57 PM
Nice of you! Thank you. But I’m in need of a 40 cm :)

How come you not using it? Remember what you paid for it?

I got it with one of the Yishun frames (it's the yishun err 'version', aka same handlebar, whether it's same mold or same production idk). I was planning to use the speeder bars all along (which you could also consider if you like a more flared bar), so opted to get this frame with the hb058/hbr12 to replace the alu rose 36cm bars on my partner's bike, but I just never got around to it, so they're just collecting dust.

IIRC the price is something like USD60 or something and shipping will be similar to that worldwide.

I'd say the speeder bars seem more 'beefy' that the hb058 . Seem stiffer in hand and the top aerofoil-ish section is wider. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, but so far I've loved the speeder bar and all the yishun frames we have are fantastic. We have a whole junior team racing on them, so I'd say the same quality would be true for the handlebars.

Hopefully that helps.

https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Handlebars_c45
https://www.yishunbike.com/product/hb058/
https://www.lightcarbon.com/full-carbon-aero-road-handlebar_p212.html
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on September 21, 2024, 12:47:57 AM
I got it with one of the Yishun frames (it's the yishun err 'version', aka same handlebar, whether it's same mold or same production idk). I was planning to use the speeder bars all along (which you could also consider if you like a more flared bar), so opted to get this frame with the hb058/hbr12 to replace the alu rose 36cm bars on my partner's bike, but I just never got around to it, so they're just collecting dust.

IIRC the price is something like USD60 or something and shipping will be similar to that worldwide.

I'd say the speeder bars seem more 'beefy' that the hb058 . Seem stiffer in hand and the top aerofoil-ish section is wider. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, but so far I've loved the speeder bar and all the yishun frames we have are fantastic. We have a whole junior team racing on them, so I'd say the same quality would be true for the handlebars.

Hopefully that helps.

https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Handlebars_c45
https://www.yishunbike.com/product/hb058/
https://www.lightcarbon.com/full-carbon-aero-road-handlebar_p212.html

If you’re not getting paid by Speeder something is wrong, couse you sold that to me!

It sure do look great! The only thing is the sizing. The flair is very visible on the photos, but do I understand it correctly, the size is 370 mm in the hoods and then 420 in the drops?
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: PLA on September 21, 2024, 01:02:31 AM
If you’re not getting paid by Speeder something is wrong, couse you sold that to me!

It sure do look great! The only thing is the sizing. The flair is very visible on the photos, but do I understand it correctly, the size is 370 mm in the hoods and then 420 in the drops?

yeah that's correct, the narrowest point at the hoods will be 370 and widest will be 420 at the drops. but the widest point is at the end where you don't even use. i was thinking of chopping my personal set down about 15mm on the ends.

just a happy customer man. i use them on my personal bike and they're on all the yishun race bikes we bought and they've been great, so it's hard for me to say anything negative about them! well they are heavier than some bars by about 50g, but i guess that's the tradeoff for stiff and heavy duty.

just don't forget to use my code at checkout for 10% off... just kidding haha
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on September 21, 2024, 01:47:12 AM
yeah that's correct, the narrowest point at the hoods will be 370 and widest will be 420 at the drops. but the widest point is at the end where you don't even use. i was thinking of chopping my personal set down about 15mm on the ends.

just a happy customer man. i use them on my personal bike and they're on all the yishun race bikes we bought and they've been great, so it's hard for me to say anything negative about them! well they are heavier than some bars by about 50g, but i guess that's the tradeoff for stiff and heavy duty.

just don't forget to use my code at checkout for 10% off... just kidding haha

I’m mostly worried about the narrow part. 37 is a big jump from the narrowste I have had (42). I’m a big guy, so my size bikes normally comes with a 44..

But I think I will give it a go and see how it works for me.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: Serge_K on September 21, 2024, 02:45:46 AM
I’m mostly worried about the narrow part. 37 is a big jump from the narrowste I have had (42). I’m a big guy, so my size bikes normally comes with a 44..

But I think I will give it a go and see how it works for me.

Thank you.

Anecdotally, I'm 184 and relatively wide shoulders. I'm now on 36 bars and I love it, you can't beat physics so it's just faster. It took my shoulders probably 6 weeks to adapt. For sprinting it's weird, other than that it's fine. A 100 stem feels so much better than 80 when out of the saddle, must be trigonometry.
But if you want free speed, I wouldn't worry too much about 37 bars.
Also, BMC now ships 36 bars with all their expensive bike, afaik.
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on September 21, 2024, 05:00:17 AM
Anecdotally, I'm 184 and relatively wide shoulders. I'm now on 36 bars and I love it, you can't beat physics so it's just faster. It took my shoulders probably 6 weeks to adapt. For sprinting it's weird, other than that it's fine. A 100 stem feels so much better than 80 when out of the saddle, must be trigonometry.
But if you want free speed, I wouldn't worry too much about 37 bars.
Also, BMC now ships 36 bars with all their expensive bike, afaik.

I know with the speed, just seems like a lot going from 42 (actually 44 on the new bike - that is way to big) to 37.

I’m 200 cm with wide shoulders, so I already have a 120 stem and can’t go shorter than that.

But I lack speed! So need to get more Aero. I push a fair amount of watt compared to the rest in my club and I’m not heavy. I’m just as Aero as an elephant on the bike.. So I will try the 37. Use the winter on the hometrainer to practice the setting.

Just hope that Speeder gets back to me unlike Lightcarbon and Yushin  :-X
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: PLA on September 21, 2024, 05:41:08 AM
I'm 190cm and went from a 44 to a 35... Even have my hoods turned in a little. I descend and sprint in the drops. Using a 130mm stem. =)

For a big unit like yourself, I think you'll appreciate the stiffness of the speeder.

If you want to contact Yishun or Lightcarbon I can dm you the email address I've corresponded with previously.
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on September 21, 2024, 05:58:12 AM
I'm 190cm and went from a 44 to a 35... Even have my hoods turned in a little. I descend and sprint in the drops. Using a 130mm stem. =)

For a big unit like yourself, I think you'll appreciate the stiffness of the speeder.

If you want to contact Yishun or Lightcarbon I can dm you the email address I've corresponded with previously.

The stiffness sounds great!

I will await to see what Speeder says. Thank you. But I’m not good at this “write for quotation” - just write the price and let me order it directly!  :o
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on September 21, 2024, 07:17:19 AM
The stiffness sounds great!

I will await to see what Speeder says. Thank you. But I’m not good at this “write for quotation” - just write the price and let me order it directly!  :o

But they respond fast! 138 USD with fees and shipment to Denmark.
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: PLA on September 21, 2024, 07:27:59 AM
But they respond fast! 138 USD with fees and shipment to Denmark.

Justin is a legend
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: Serge_K on September 21, 2024, 09:58:25 AM
just a happy customer man. i use them on my personal bike and they're on all the yishun race bikes we bought and they've been great, so it's hard for me to say anything negative about them! well they are heavier than some bars by about 50g, but i guess that's the tradeoff for stiff and heavy duty.

Polylactide, I see on this thread you mention your experience with Yishun, LightCarbon & Speeder.
Could you please let us know what you've bought, when, and how it's been?
I find that's among the most helpful feedback when figuring out who to order from.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: Lotnik on September 21, 2024, 10:26:22 AM
I'm 190cm and went from a 44 to a 35... Even have my hoods turned in a little. I descend and sprint in the drops. Using a 130mm stem. =)

For a big unit like yourself, I think you'll appreciate the stiffness of the speeder.

If you want to contact Yishun or Lightcarbon I can dm you the email address I've corresponded with previously.
What speeder handlebar do you have on the bike? I can't see anything that is 36/120. Only to shortest stems are available in the smallest size.
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on September 21, 2024, 10:55:03 AM
I got a reply from Lightcarbon now. 120 USD for the HBR12, fees and shipment.

I stick with the Speeder one.
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: DavidG on November 05, 2024, 09:19:40 AM
I got a reply from Lightcarbon now. 120 USD for the HBR12, fees and shipment.

I stick with the Speeder one.

Did you get the Speeder handlebar at the end? How are you getting on with it? I am considering it myself.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: DavidG on November 07, 2024, 01:38:55 AM
I've got a spare unused one in 36cm you can have if you want
Do you still have these?
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on November 23, 2024, 12:46:38 PM
Did you get the Speeder handlebar at the end? How are you getting on with it? I am considering it myself.

Thanks.

Sorry for the late reply. I had not seen your post.

I did get them! I have not mounted them yet.. But first impression is that they are very stiff, well made and the dealing with Speeder went Smooth.
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: ejump0 on December 27, 2024, 07:42:48 AM
i was searching for alternative ACR bar to my kocelvo 150g(review had it its sketchy), n stumbled upon this on aliex thats similar to hbr12
Balugoe- https://a.aliexpress.com/_oBuJWXt

i asked the seller if theres 36/38cm, seller said yes but havent update the listing yet.
just in case anyone wants to use aliex option
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on March 14, 2025, 05:58:03 AM
For info regarding the Speeder handlebars:

It only works with electronic gears! There is not space for disc brake and mechanical gear tubes/wires in the holes.

Guess who have mechanical gears..
Title: Re: Lightcarbon HBR12
Post by: BikerJens on April 07, 2025, 05:37:28 AM
i was searching for alternative ACR bar to my kocelvo 150g(review had it its sketchy), n stumbled upon this on aliex thats similar to hbr12
Balugoe- https://a.aliexpress.com/_oBuJWXt

i asked the seller if theres 36/38cm, seller said yes but havent update the listing yet.
just in case anyone wants to use aliex option

I ended up with the Balugoe version.

Fits my needs perfectly.