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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: je2907 on October 13, 2024, 02:49:06 AM

Title: Frame identification
Post by: je2907 on October 13, 2024, 02:49:06 AM
Hello
i was wondering, for my next build id like to build something like the photos
do you know where to frames come from. ?
Especially the Adris endurance
Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: Serge_K on October 13, 2024, 04:38:08 AM
I'm a huge fan of the Rose Xlite as well! Rose is definitely buying OEM frames.
And i think it's https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Integrated-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R55D-_p429.html
When you put them side by side, in fact, pretty evident that the Speeder 55D IS the rose xlite. Right?
That might well be my next road bike. With 50mm wide AF rims & carbon spokes, carbon cranks, could be a very light build for my fat ass.
Speeder has a very strong reputation and OEMs for very legit operators. For example, https://frameworkbicycles.com/ sources cockpits & forks from Speeder.
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: acino on October 13, 2024, 05:22:34 AM
Very visually pleasing frame imo. Does Speeder custom painting or just sell raw carbon frames?
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: pavlo.k on October 13, 2024, 06:23:29 AM
I'm a huge fan of the Rose Xlite as well! Rose is definitely buying OEM frames.
And i think it's https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Integrated-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R55D-_p429.html
When you put them side by side, in fact, pretty evident that the Speeder 55D IS the rose xlite. Right?
That might well be my next road bike. With 50mm wide AF rims & carbon spokes, carbon cranks, could be a very light build for my fat ass.
Speeder has a very strong reputation and OEMs for very legit operators. For example, https://frameworkbicycles.com/ sources cockpits & forks from Speeder.

I don't think Rose buys OEM frames. their endurance and gravel line up are quite unique with a proprietary "flexy" seatposts.
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: je2907 on October 13, 2024, 08:37:42 AM
I'm looking more for the adris endurance frame
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: SirBikealot on October 13, 2024, 11:35:52 AM
I don't think Rose buys OEM frames. their endurance and gravel line up are quite unique with a proprietary "flexy" seatposts.
You can look it up. Rose themself says that they let the carbon and alloy frames be made in China (speeder could it be) and than imported back to Germay. Only the assembly and R&D are in Germany.
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: some guy on October 13, 2024, 11:48:39 AM
You can look it up. Rose themself says that they let the carbon and alloy frames be made in China (speeder could it be) and than imported back to Germay. Only the assembly and R&D are in Germany.

yes, they use chinese manufacturers, but certainly no "off the shelf" frames
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: some guy on October 13, 2024, 11:51:25 AM
I'm a huge fan of the Rose Xlite as well! Rose is definitely buying OEM frames.
And i think it's https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Integrated-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R55D-_p429.html
When you put them side by side, in fact, pretty evident that the Speeder 55D IS the rose xlite. Right?
That might well be my next road bike. With 50mm wide AF rims & carbon spokes, carbon cranks, could be a very light build for my fat ass.
Speeder has a very strong reputation and OEMs for very legit operators. For example, https://frameworkbicycles.com/ sources cockpits & forks from Speeder.

nah, look at the headtube - the r55d has a hourglass-ish shaped one. but i agree, it's sexy af!
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: bremerradkurier on October 13, 2024, 11:52:10 AM
yes, they use chinese manufacturers, but certainly no "off the shelf" frames

IIRC Storck and Focus are in this category as well.
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: toxin on October 13, 2024, 11:57:59 AM
You can look it up. Rose themself says that they let the carbon and alloy frames be made in China (speeder could it be) and than imported back to Germay. Only the assembly and R&D are in Germany.

Literally everybody except Giant does this

Rose are not open open mould you won't find them, they are very generic tho so you can find a lot of similar frames
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: je2907 on October 13, 2024, 01:50:17 PM
Literally everybody except Giant does this

Rose are not open open mould you won't find them, they are very generic tho so you can find a lot of similar frames

Do you have examples ?
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: je2907 on October 20, 2024, 07:34:38 AM
nobody knows ?
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: jmcabellom on October 22, 2024, 08:58:25 AM
You can look it up. Rose themself says that they let the carbon and alloy frames be made in China (speeder could it be) and than imported back to Germay. Only the assembly and R&D are in Germany.
Also from Taiwan....
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: je2907 on October 23, 2024, 12:15:41 PM
FOUND IT
Adris or Adrisport is made by Pardus ou Ruibao Composite
Title: Re: Frame identification
Post by: Pedaldancer on October 23, 2024, 06:18:26 PM
Do you have examples ?

Canyon  also develops the frames in Germany but the manufacturing is in China or Taiwan. (I am not exactly sure where it is)
Giant is not on this because they are basically a Taiwanese company  ;D
Europe does not have a lot of carbon frame manufacturing
.. it's just to expensive as it needs a lot of people and the salary in Europe is higher (not uniform, but it is)