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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: c.etzo on December 04, 2024, 01:51:10 AM
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i've bought a ICAN FL1, so i wanna start a new post and share my new build
will be size 54 and hope to receive it before christmas
Crystal send me some pics today, i've choose a paintless matte finish.
the calipers mounts seems to be faced and the inside of the frame looks clean
this frame will be assembled with:
- ultegra di2 8100 with lexon crankset
- Peter's 1100 D50CU-33 rims 21/21H wheelset
- GP5000s TLR 32mm
- 3d printed saddle
- BB T47 KACTUS DUB
- Favero Assioma Duo
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I'm in love with this frameset...
I'm following your build up
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Will be interested as well ! FWIW I only got 500 km out of that bb before it became rough. I changed out the supposedly ceramic bearings to steel ones and it was fine - over 3000km now in all weather.
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Nice! Keep us posted on the build. Make sure to weigh it as well! ;)
I was highly considering this frame, but I opted for something else which is on the way! ;D
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Will be interested as well ! FWIW I only got 500 km out of that bb before it became rough. I changed out the supposedly ceramic bearings to steel ones and it was fine - over 3000km now in all weather.
Great, just got that one for my gravel :/
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Will be interested as well ! FWIW I only got 500 km out of that bb before it became rough. I changed out the supposedly ceramic bearings to steel ones and it was fine - over 3000km now in all weather.
I have the Kactus BB as well-will replace it with this when it dies.
https://praxiscycles.com/product/t47-i-b-shimano/ (https://praxiscycles.com/product/t47-i-b-shimano/)
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I'm using kactua bb in all my bikes and no issues at all
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i've bought a ICAN FL1, so i wanna start a new post and share my new build
will be size 54 and hope to receive it before christmas
Crystal send me some pics today, i've choose a paintless matte finish.
the calipers mounts seems to be faced and the inside of the frame looks clean
this frame will be assembled with:
- ultegra di2 8100 with lexon crankset
- Peter's 1100 D50CU-33 rims 21/21H wheelset
- GP5000s TLR 32mm
- 3d printed saddle
- BB T47 KACTUS DUB
- Favero Assioma Duo
Stunning frame, never considered before. I read something about ICAN seems pretty legit quality. Feel like no one talk about ICAN frame on this forum, am i wrong?
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Stunning frame, never considered before. I read something about ICAN seems pretty legit quality. Feel like no one talk about ICAN frame on this forum, am i wrong?
It's probably because they don't shill enough influencers! ;D
Also the FL1 isn't available at all their global warehouses, it seems you have to order direct from China.
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Be interested in the build as well. This was at the top of my list but I found something better suited for me. Can confirm, it must be ordered direct from China. I spoke with them via email and received quotes for frame, painting and shipping. Service was very responsive.
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I can confirm, from payment It took only 2 days to ship
Crystal was very responsive with pics and informations.
And give me a spare hanger as gift, it's proprietary and they dont do It in direct mount version
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I can confirm, from payment It took only 2 days to ship
Crystal was very responsive with pics and informations.
And give me a spare hanger as gift, it's proprietary and they dont do It in direct mount version
The FL1 was on my top 5 frameset wishlist. I talked to Sherry at ICAN via email. They're very responsive and quite professional. If they tweaked the FL1 to be UDH, that would make it near perfect. Though has anyone confirmed if they use EPS molding for the frame?
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It's listed bottom of my frame list because of the look but actually these pictures are looking good.
Wait for the final build.
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Me too, still considering Onirii One, or One pro and Ican FL1. The lightest frame from Elves so Vanyar in my size weight...1160 g >:( The issue with the Onirii is that I have 187 cm, and I'm on the edge with that 56 frame! I checked the bikegeocalc.com and it should be okay, but I have some doubts. The Ican looks very nice, rather good opinions and there are quick. However, the One Pro is looking much better, but for sure will be heavier. Funny that I have everything, but the heart - frame is missing :D All with tyres should be around 7 kg, I need frameset lighter than 1345g :-D
-Frame unknown,
-Avian canary 400/110~264 g,
-Avian wheels CRDB5 ~1200 g,
-Sram Red 1x12, with Garbaruk cage ~1900g,
-SHimano XTR rotors ~88+108g,
-Gemini 46t chainring ~98g
-Garbaruk 10-44 cassette ~280g,
-Favero Assioma duo ~300g,
-Conti GP5000 S TR ~550g.
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Me too, still considering Onirii One, or One pro and Ican FL1. The lightest frame from Elves so Vanyar in my size weight...1160 g >:( The issue with the Onirii is that I have 187 cm, and I'm on the edge with that 56 frame! I checked the bikegeocalc.com and it should be okay, but I have some doubts. The Ican looks very nice, rather good opinions and there are quick. However, the One Pro is looking much better, but for sure will be heavier.
That Onirii One pro looks extremely similar to the New Spcycle R088, but with a different fork and double the price.
I'm 99% sure it's the same frame at a healthy markup.
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That Onirii One pro looks extremely similar to the New Spcycle R088, but with a different fork and double the price.
I'm 99% sure it's the same frame at a healthy markup.
That looks like the same frame with different fork, titanium bottle screws and direct mount hanger (most likely UDH). SPCycle might be running a slightly wider fork to fit 32c tires and they also claim EPS molding.
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Frame arrived today, be ready for pics and weights
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Frame arrived today, be ready for pics and weights
how long did it take from order to delivery?
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how long did it take from order to delivery?
20 days
Here a collage of weights
Frame Is without hardware in size 54 paintless but with clear coat
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first issue with headset.
the top bearing sits 4 mm below the frame border and with the compression ring of my handlebar i can't preload.
so i need a C-ring of 8 mm or more i think
the frame looks very good, brake holes seems faced and also the bb.
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did you contact Ican directly, ask them whether this is correct ? or maybe they have some solution to fix that?
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I wrote go Crystal to ask the size of their compression ring
Mine from handlebar of tt-x38 Is 5mm in height, so very low
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Could you take a photo of bearings in the frame? So you assume that they gove the wrong ring? They give some spacers eith the frameset?
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You can probably buy some shims to get the headset to compress. I feel like DUB crank spacers could work.
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Could you take a photo of bearings in the frame? So you assume that they gove the wrong ring? They give some spacers eith the frameset?
i've bought the frame without their handlebar, so they send me only the 2 bearings without ring, the ring is from my tt-x38 headset
here the pics and for comparison how it sits on TT-X38
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i've ordered this set of spacers - the ring seems to be 10mm and may solve the problem
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005927486056.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.4.5f103696v2pG2O&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita
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i've bought the frame without their handlebar, so they send me only the 2 bearings without ring, the ring is from my tt-x38 headset
here the pics and for comparison how it sits on TT-X38
hold it...
how come your ttx38 top bearing sits so further inside with clear few mm of top seat wall, while my ttx38 bearing sits flush to the bearing seat.
is your top bearing a shorter height vs the bottom headset bearing (mine supplied both same bearing)
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hold it...
how come your ttx38 top bearing sits so further inside with clear few mm of top seat wall, while my ttx38 bearing sits flush to the bearing seat.
is your top bearing a shorter height vs the bottom headset bearing (mine supplied both same bearing)
Wait, the collage photo Is the Ican fl1
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Wait, the collage photo Is the Ican fl1
i must be trippin when i was seeing the pics ::)
it seems like the fl1 headtube bearing seat were built anticipating the super thicc fsa acr style c-ring.
while stacking 1-2mm spacers may do the trick, i can see that having proper c-ring might be better under the dustcap as the ring width is wider to support the dustcap flat in place
my ICR c-ring+topbearing vs tantan c-ring+topbearing.
the ICR one is thicker indeed
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Crystal sent me a photo of ican c-ring and Is 9 mm
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All three major systems use a 52mm OD bearing have the same top bearing fitment (FSA ACR, Deda DCR, Token/Enve). This frame is designed to fit the ACR spec, so the other 2 should also work for the top bearing.
The brand-specific ones (e.g., Trek and Specialized) are custom and use their own specs; unfortunately, the copy bikes also seem to be copying this.
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problem solved with 10 mm Compression ring.
now i have about 1 mm gap from frame and top cap.
more pics of full bike soon
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Still looks a bit odd, its only 1 mm? Looks like a bit bigger and not proper. Please have a look. This is from the website, I know, different handlebar but...
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More or less same perspective
The lexon vero is in my wishlist
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How much for the frame and bars as its not on the https://icancycling.com/ website and the other site https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/t1000-carbon-road-disc-brake-frame-fl1-795g/ requests send for a quote
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You can write to ican for a quote, mine was 750$ for frame and handlebar + shipping, 660 without handlebar
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finish the build with Peter's wheelset, total weight as photo is 6.850 gr cat not included
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Nice, however, the chain is a bit long
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Nice, however, the chain is a bit long
Yes, i've shortened It After photo
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Ok, I see your cat detected the problem on the chain :)
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finally first ride!
i'm out of shape but i'm very happy about it, as picture attached is 6.85 kg garmin and varia excluded.
very happy also of the wheels from @PeterXu
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finally first ride!
i'm out of shape but i'm very happy about it, as picture attached is 6.85 kg garmin and varia excluded.
very happy also of the wheels from @PeterXu
Looks really good! Please report back on ride quality of the frameset. :)
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I've been talking to Melody at ICAN about buying one of these. In case anyone was wondering, like I was, the max rider weight for this is 115kg. Only reason I asked was because the Onirii One was claiming a max weight of 95kg
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Hey, nice build.
What did you pay for the frameset?
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Hey, nice build.
What did you pay for the frameset?
660$ excluded shipping without handlebar
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Has ICAN confirmed if the FL1 is EPS molded or not?
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Has ICAN confirmed if the FL1 is EPS molded or not?
i've asked to crystal and she confirms is EPS
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Has ICAN confirmed if the FL1 is EPS molded or not?
just a curious question. is EPS molding that superior to the previous methods? or is it just a refinement. can i expect an EPS frame to be lighter, stronger, stronger or???
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according to Ribble website:
EPS is a process whereby an expanded polystyrene internal mould is covered in latex. Individual strands of carbon fibre are then ‘layered up’ to an exacting specification over this internal construct. The whole mould is then heated to 130°, inflated and then cured. When the latex is removed it produces a perfectly smooth finish, with none of the excess material you tend to find on the inside of less advanced frames. But what difference does this EPS core make to the overall construction of a frame?
Unlike other methods of manufacturing, the EPS process results in a frame that exhibits zero excess carbon material on the inside of the tubing. Why should this matter we hear you ask? Well, not only is the inside of the frame completely smooth to the touch, but it also eliminates any imperfections, which in turn enhances the structural integrity of each carbon fibre to create a stronger frame.
It enables the frame to be constructed as one complete section of carbon. A monocoque frame is stronger, lighter, and stiffer than a comparable bonded frame.
It eliminates the imperfections in the carbon layup that earlier production methods were susceptible to. Zero imperfections result in exceptional strength and reliability.
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new thru axles from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/355251505281
from 82 gr to 51 gr
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Arrived new handlebar lexon vero in 380 x 90, very nice and weights 327 grams.
But It doesnt have holes to match with spacers, so i've removed the pins from last spacers.
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Finally finished my build a couple of weeks ago. I waited to take it out until I thought I had a clear day and of course got utterly soaked. The shite weather notwithstanding, I am super happy with the ride. It feels super responsive, stiff and fast, especially as compared to the Orbea Orca I had been riding for a couple of years. The Fl1 feels like a proper race bike. I originally got it for big mountain climbing, but based on how fast it goes especially with these wheels on the flat, I'm definitely going to do some crit racing on it this year.
Final weight with pedals, cages and computer mount is about 7.2kg.
Specs: FL1 size 52cm
Shimano Ultegra 12 speed Di2
Elilee 165mm carbon crank
Xm carbon speed 55/50 28 external width with 5.2mm carbon spokes
Lightcarbon integrated bar/stem 38 by 110
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Finished my build.
Specs: FL1 size 49cm
Wheeltop EDS TX 12 speed
Elilee 155mm carbon crank 48/33
30mm x 30mm external width carbon wheel
integrated bar/stem 380 by 80
7.0 kg with Old Ultegra 6700 pedals
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Any new review about the FL1? :)
I´m thinking to buy one but I don´t find much information about it...
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I've ridden mine approximately 1500 km. I absolutely love it. I feel super fast on climbs and it descends and corners really well. Raced a cat 3 crit on it last week and it felt fast and good in the corners. The race came down to a sprint and I had my best placing in over 2 years, so it seems to sprint well too.
Only downside is that the paint is a bit fragile. Already chipped a bit on the underside of the chain stay from rocks kicking up off the ground.
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I've ridden mine approximately 1500 km. I absolutely love it. I feel super fast on climbs and it descends and corners really well. Raced a cat 3 crit on it last week and it felt fast and good in the corners. The race came down to a sprint and I had my best placing in over 2 years, so it seems to sprint well too.
Only downside is that the paint is a bit fragile. Already chipped a bit on the underside of the chain stay from rocks kicking up off the ground.
Good news!! And beautiful bike! What are those wheels?
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XM carbon speed - T800-28 50mm front/55mm rear depth with 5mm carbon spokes.
Also ridden the wheels 1500 km. Absolutely love them as well.
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damn you guys are tiny
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And another question
Do you think that is possible to use this frame for light gravel? Too light?
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Ive taken mine on some 1-2k stretches of very light gravel that I've encountered during a road route. I think the frame can handle it fine; would likely use a different set of wheels if I were intentionally seeking out gravel segments.
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i've bought a ICAN FL1, so i wanna start a new post and share my new build
will be size 54
Would you mind telling me what finish you went for ?
Is it naked carbon with clear coat? Matte or Satin ?
It looks really nice 8)
Are you happy with the finish?
Thanks.
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the finish is naked carbon with clear coat matte, and i'm very happy with it.