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Title: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 04, 2024, 01:51:10 AM
i've bought a ICAN FL1, so i wanna start a new post and share my new build
will be size 54 and hope to receive it before christmas
Crystal send me some pics today, i've choose a paintless matte finish.
the calipers mounts seems to be faced and the inside of the frame looks clean
this frame will be assembled with:
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: ZacItaly15 on December 04, 2024, 02:11:22 AM
I'm in love with this frameset...
I'm following your build up


Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Daviddavieboy on December 04, 2024, 02:20:15 AM
 Will be interested as well ! FWIW I only got 500 km out of that bb before it became rough. I changed out the supposedly ceramic bearings to steel ones and it was fine - over 3000km now in all weather.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: jonathanf2 on December 04, 2024, 09:16:01 AM
Nice! Keep us posted on the build. Make sure to weigh it as well!  ;)

I was highly considering this frame, but I opted for something else which is on the way!  ;D
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Ludo on December 04, 2024, 09:24:16 AM
Will be interested as well ! FWIW I only got 500 km out of that bb before it became rough. I changed out the supposedly ceramic bearings to steel ones and it was fine - over 3000km now in all weather.

Great, just got that one for my gravel :/
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: bremerradkurier on December 04, 2024, 09:28:27 AM
Will be interested as well ! FWIW I only got 500 km out of that bb before it became rough. I changed out the supposedly ceramic bearings to steel ones and it was fine - over 3000km now in all weather.

I have the Kactus BB as well-will replace it with this when it dies.

https://praxiscycles.com/product/t47-i-b-shimano/ (https://praxiscycles.com/product/t47-i-b-shimano/)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 04, 2024, 09:49:25 AM
I'm using kactua bb in all my bikes and no issues at all
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: alfiomotrambo on December 04, 2024, 11:35:31 AM
i've bought a ICAN FL1, so i wanna start a new post and share my new build
will be size 54 and hope to receive it before christmas
Crystal send me some pics today, i've choose a paintless matte finish.
the calipers mounts seems to be faced and the inside of the frame looks clean
this frame will be assembled with:
  • ultegra di2 8100 with lexon crankset
  • Peter's 1100 D50CU-33 rims 21/21H wheelset
  • GP5000s TLR 32mm
  • 3d printed saddle
  • BB T47 KACTUS DUB
  • Favero Assioma Duo



Stunning frame, never considered before. I read something about ICAN seems pretty legit quality. Feel like no one talk about ICAN frame on this forum, am i wrong?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: jonathanf2 on December 04, 2024, 11:52:52 AM

Stunning frame, never considered before. I read something about ICAN seems pretty legit quality. Feel like no one talk about ICAN frame on this forum, am i wrong?

It's probably because they don't shill enough influencers!  ;D

Also the FL1 isn't available at all their global warehouses, it seems you have to order direct from China.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: biceryder on December 04, 2024, 01:47:19 PM
Be interested in the build as well.  This was at the top of my list but I found something better suited for me.  Can confirm, it must be ordered direct from China.  I spoke with them via email and received quotes for frame, painting and shipping.  Service was very responsive.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 04, 2024, 02:03:32 PM
I can confirm, from payment It took only 2 days to ship
Crystal was very responsive with pics and informations.
And give me a spare hanger as gift, it's proprietary and they dont do It in direct mount version
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: jonathanf2 on December 04, 2024, 02:17:44 PM
I can confirm, from payment It took only 2 days to ship
Crystal was very responsive with pics and informations.
And give me a spare hanger as gift, it's proprietary and they dont do It in direct mount version

The FL1 was on my top 5 frameset wishlist. I talked to Sherry at ICAN via email. They're very responsive and quite professional. If they tweaked the FL1 to be UDH, that would make it near perfect. Though has anyone confirmed if they use EPS molding for the frame?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Nihilo on December 06, 2024, 08:26:23 AM
It's listed bottom of my frame list because of the look but actually these pictures are looking good.
Wait for the final build.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Mariuszuzd on December 06, 2024, 09:28:58 AM
Me too, still considering Onirii One, or One pro and Ican FL1. The lightest frame from Elves so Vanyar in my size weight...1160 g >:( The issue with the Onirii is that I have 187 cm, and I'm on the edge with that 56 frame! I checked the bikegeocalc.com and it should be okay, but I have some doubts. The Ican looks very nice, rather good opinions and there are quick. However, the One Pro is looking much better, but for sure will be heavier. Funny that I have everything, but the heart - frame is missing :D All with tyres should be around 7 kg, I need frameset lighter than 1345g :-D
-Frame unknown,
-Avian canary 400/110~264 g,
-Avian wheels CRDB5 ~1200 g,
-Sram Red 1x12, with Garbaruk cage ~1900g,
-SHimano XTR rotors ~88+108g,
-Gemini 46t chainring ~98g
-Garbaruk 10-44 cassette ~280g,
-Favero Assioma duo ~300g,
-Conti GP5000 S TR ~550g.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: TidyDinosaur on December 06, 2024, 09:51:31 AM
Me too, still considering Onirii One, or One pro and Ican FL1. The lightest frame from Elves so Vanyar in my size weight...1160 g >:( The issue with the Onirii is that I have 187 cm, and I'm on the edge with that 56 frame! I checked the bikegeocalc.com and it should be okay, but I have some doubts. The Ican looks very nice, rather good opinions and there are quick. However, the One Pro is looking much better, but for sure will be heavier.

That Onirii One pro looks extremely similar to the New Spcycle R088, but with a different fork and double the price.
I'm 99% sure it's the same frame at a healthy markup.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: jonathanf2 on December 06, 2024, 11:40:24 AM
That Onirii One pro looks extremely similar to the New Spcycle R088, but with a different fork and double the price.
I'm 99% sure it's the same frame at a healthy markup.

That looks like the same frame with different fork, titanium bottle screws and direct mount hanger (most likely UDH). SPCycle might be running a slightly wider fork to fit 32c tires and they also claim EPS molding.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 27, 2024, 06:46:59 AM
Frame arrived today, be ready for pics and weights
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: shan on December 27, 2024, 09:01:59 AM
Frame arrived today, be ready for pics and weights

how long did it take from order to delivery?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 27, 2024, 09:30:54 AM
how long did it take from order to delivery?
20 days
Here a collage of weights
Frame Is without hardware in size 54 paintless but with clear coat
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 29, 2024, 10:43:30 AM
first issue with headset.
the top bearing sits 4 mm below the frame border and with the compression ring of my handlebar i can't preload.
so i need a C-ring of 8 mm or more i think


the frame looks very good, brake holes seems faced and also the bb.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Mariuszuzd on December 29, 2024, 03:20:05 PM
did you contact Ican directly, ask them whether this is correct ? or maybe they have some solution to fix that?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 29, 2024, 03:32:01 PM
I wrote go Crystal to ask the size of their compression ring
Mine from handlebar of tt-x38 Is 5mm in height, so very low
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Mariuszuzd on December 29, 2024, 05:01:44 PM
Could you take a photo of bearings in the frame? So you assume that they gove the wrong ring? They give some spacers eith the frameset?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Takiyaki on December 29, 2024, 05:11:01 PM
You can probably buy some shims to get the headset to compress. I feel like DUB crank spacers could work.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 30, 2024, 02:51:10 AM
Could you take a photo of bearings in the frame? So you assume that they gove the wrong ring? They give some spacers eith the frameset?
i've bought the frame without their handlebar, so they send me only the 2 bearings without ring, the ring is from my tt-x38 headset

here the pics and for comparison how it sits on TT-X38

Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 30, 2024, 02:59:00 AM
i've ordered this set of spacers - the ring seems to be 10mm and may solve the problem
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005927486056.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.4.5f103696v2pG2O&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: ejump0 on December 30, 2024, 03:34:48 AM
i've bought the frame without their handlebar, so they send me only the 2 bearings without ring, the ring is from my tt-x38 headset

here the pics and for comparison how it sits on TT-X38

hold it...
how come your ttx38 top bearing sits so further inside with clear few mm of top seat wall, while my ttx38 bearing sits flush to the bearing seat. 

is your top bearing a shorter height vs the bottom headset bearing (mine supplied both same bearing)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 30, 2024, 03:37:08 AM
hold it...
how come your ttx38 top bearing sits so further inside with clear few mm of top seat wall, while my ttx38 bearing sits flush to the bearing seat. 

is your top bearing a shorter height vs the bottom headset bearing (mine supplied both same bearing)
Wait, the collage photo Is the Ican fl1
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: ejump0 on December 30, 2024, 04:44:21 AM
Wait, the collage photo Is the Ican fl1
i must be trippin when i was seeing the pics ::)

it seems like the fl1 headtube bearing seat were built anticipating the super thicc fsa acr style c-ring.

while stacking 1-2mm spacers may do the trick, i can see that having proper c-ring might be better under the dustcap as the ring width is wider to support the dustcap flat in place

my ICR c-ring+topbearing vs tantan c-ring+topbearing.
the ICR one is thicker indeed
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on December 30, 2024, 06:46:46 AM
Crystal sent me a photo of ican c-ring and Is 9 mm
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Sakizashi on December 30, 2024, 11:19:35 AM
All three major systems use a 52mm OD bearing have the same top bearing fitment (FSA ACR, Deda DCR, Token/Enve). This frame is designed to fit the ACR spec, so the other 2 should also work for the top bearing.

The brand-specific ones (e.g., Trek and Specialized) are custom and use their own specs; unfortunately, the copy bikes also seem to be copying this.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 09, 2025, 12:00:37 PM
problem solved with 10 mm Compression ring.
now i have about 1 mm gap from frame and top cap.
more pics of full bike soon
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Mariuszuzd on January 09, 2025, 03:30:31 PM
Still looks a bit odd, its only 1 mm? Looks like a bit bigger and not proper. Please have a look. This is from the website, I know, different handlebar but...
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 09, 2025, 03:46:20 PM
More or less same perspective
The lexon vero is in my wishlist
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Sander2177 on January 10, 2025, 08:22:08 AM
How much for the frame and bars as its not on the https://icancycling.com/ website and the other site https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/t1000-carbon-road-disc-brake-frame-fl1-795g/ requests send for a quote
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 10, 2025, 08:28:01 AM
You can write to ican for a quote, mine was 750$ for frame and handlebar + shipping, 660 without handlebar
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 11, 2025, 03:34:05 AM
finish the build with Peter's wheelset, total weight as photo is 6.850 gr cat not included
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Mariuszuzd on January 11, 2025, 04:24:02 AM
Nice, however, the chain is a bit long
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 11, 2025, 04:29:07 AM
Nice, however, the chain is a bit long
Yes, i've shortened It After photo
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Ar26 on January 11, 2025, 10:59:04 AM
Ok, I see your cat detected the problem on the chain  :)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 25, 2025, 10:46:40 AM
finally first ride!
i'm out of shape but i'm very happy about it, as picture attached is 6.85 kg garmin and varia excluded.
very happy also of the wheels from @PeterXu
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: jonathanf2 on January 25, 2025, 01:17:03 PM
finally first ride!
i'm out of shape but i'm very happy about it, as picture attached is 6.85 kg garmin and varia excluded.
very happy also of the wheels from @PeterXu

Looks really good! Please report back on ride quality of the frameset.  :)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: foregroundmusic on January 25, 2025, 09:04:09 PM
I've been talking to Melody at ICAN about buying one of these. In case anyone was wondering, like I was, the max rider weight for this is 115kg. Only reason I asked was because the Onirii One was claiming a max weight of 95kg
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: ritzelrowdy on January 26, 2025, 03:24:29 AM
Hey, nice build.
What did you pay for the frameset?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 26, 2025, 03:35:05 AM
Hey, nice build.
What did you pay for the frameset?

660$ excluded shipping without handlebar
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: jonathanf2 on January 26, 2025, 11:26:17 AM
Has ICAN confirmed if the FL1 is EPS molded or not?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 27, 2025, 02:15:25 AM
Has ICAN confirmed if the FL1 is EPS molded or not?
i've asked to crystal and she confirms is EPS
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: shan on January 28, 2025, 12:57:57 AM
Has ICAN confirmed if the FL1 is EPS molded or not?

just a curious question. is EPS molding that superior to the previous methods? or is it just a refinement. can i expect an EPS frame to be lighter, stronger, stronger or???
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 28, 2025, 01:39:31 AM
according to Ribble website:
EPS is a process whereby an expanded polystyrene internal mould is covered in latex. Individual strands of carbon fibre are then ‘layered up’ to an exacting specification over this internal construct. The whole mould is then heated to 130°, inflated and then cured. When the latex is removed it produces a perfectly smooth finish, with none of the excess material you tend to find on the inside of less advanced frames. But what difference does this EPS core make to the overall construction of a frame?

Unlike other methods of manufacturing, the EPS process results in a frame that exhibits zero excess carbon material on the inside of the tubing. Why should this matter we hear you ask? Well, not only is the inside of the frame completely smooth to the touch, but it also eliminates any imperfections, which in turn enhances the structural integrity of each carbon fibre to create a stronger frame.
It enables the frame to be constructed as one complete section of carbon. A monocoque frame is stronger, lighter, and stiffer than a comparable bonded frame.
It eliminates the imperfections in the carbon layup that earlier production methods were susceptible to. Zero imperfections result in exceptional strength and reliability.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 28, 2025, 11:35:32 AM
new thru axles from ebay  https://www.ebay.com/itm/355251505281
from 82 gr to 51 gr
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on February 15, 2025, 01:02:40 PM
Arrived new handlebar lexon vero in 380 x 90, very nice and weights 327 grams.
But It doesnt have holes to match with spacers, so i've removed the pins from last spacers.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: JayBee on February 18, 2025, 10:31:37 PM
Finally finished my build a couple of weeks ago. I waited to take it out until I thought I had a clear day and of course got utterly soaked. The shite weather notwithstanding, I am super happy with the ride. It feels super responsive, stiff and fast, especially as compared to the Orbea Orca I had been riding for a couple of years. The Fl1 feels like a proper race bike. I originally got it for big mountain climbing, but based on how fast it goes especially with these wheels on the flat, I'm definitely going to do some crit racing on it this year.

Final weight with pedals, cages and computer mount is about 7.2kg.

Specs: FL1 size 52cm
Shimano Ultegra 12 speed Di2
Elilee 165mm carbon crank
Xm carbon speed 55/50 28 external width with 5.2mm carbon spokes
Lightcarbon integrated bar/stem 38 by 110
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Nicl6 on February 24, 2025, 08:47:18 PM
Finished my build.
Specs: FL1 size 49cm
Wheeltop EDS TX 12 speed
Elilee 155mm carbon crank 48/33
30mm x 30mm external width carbon wheel
integrated bar/stem 380 by 80
7.0 kg with Old Ultegra 6700 pedals
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: MARIOVL on April 22, 2025, 03:13:12 AM
Any new review about the FL1?  :)
I´m thinking to buy one but I don´t find much information about it...
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: JayBee on April 22, 2025, 01:44:35 PM
I've ridden mine approximately 1500 km. I absolutely love it. I feel super fast on climbs and it descends and corners really well. Raced a cat 3 crit on it last week and it felt fast and good in the corners. The race came down to a sprint and I had my best placing in over 2 years, so it seems to sprint well too.

Only downside is that the paint is a bit fragile. Already chipped a bit on the underside of the chain stay from rocks kicking up off the ground.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: MARIOVL on April 23, 2025, 05:26:25 AM
I've ridden mine approximately 1500 km. I absolutely love it. I feel super fast on climbs and it descends and corners really well. Raced a cat 3 crit on it last week and it felt fast and good in the corners. The race came down to a sprint and I had my best placing in over 2 years, so it seems to sprint well too.

Only downside is that the paint is a bit fragile. Already chipped a bit on the underside of the chain stay from rocks kicking up off the ground.
Good news!! And beautiful bike! What are those wheels?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: JayBee on April 23, 2025, 08:55:25 AM
XM carbon speed - T800-28 50mm front/55mm rear depth with 5mm carbon spokes.

Also ridden the wheels 1500 km. Absolutely love them as well.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: aeroskiii on April 23, 2025, 03:33:36 PM
damn you guys are tiny
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: MARIOVL on April 25, 2025, 05:00:51 AM
And another question

Do you think that is possible to use this frame for light gravel? Too light?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: JayBee on April 25, 2025, 10:47:50 AM
Ive taken mine on some 1-2k stretches of very light gravel that I've encountered during a road route. I think the frame can handle it fine; would likely use a different set of wheels if I were intentionally seeking out gravel segments.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: T1NY on May 12, 2025, 03:16:33 PM
i've bought a ICAN FL1, so i wanna start a new post and share my new build
will be size 54

Would you mind telling me what finish you went for ?

Is it naked carbon with clear coat? Matte or Satin ?

It looks really nice  8)

Are you happy with the finish?

Thanks.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on May 13, 2025, 03:29:45 AM
the finish is naked carbon with clear coat matte, and i'm very happy with it.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Tunapuff on June 08, 2025, 12:14:21 AM
Here's my FL1 aka the Pikarello. I designed some decals, picked the paint colour and ICAN took care of the rest. They sent design mockups and numerous photos throughout the process regarding the paint colour, sizing and position of the decals and followed up when I forgot to reply to their emails. Very happy with the service.

Painted 52cm frame weighed 875 grams. Build quality according to my untrained eye is well above the Yoeleo R12 I'm coming from which had many issues I was never happy with. Internal photos - see for yourself. I appreciated the faced brake mounts. I have done several hundred kms on it so far and it's a ripper of a frame. Stiff yet comfortable, I've smashed plenty of Strava PBs so far.

No problems with the T47 BB and the Magene PES P505 crankset.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: BeR on June 08, 2025, 01:36:21 AM
Here's my FL1 aka the Pikarello. I designed some decals, picked the paint colour and ICAN took care of the rest. They sent design mockups and numerous photos throughout the process regarding the paint colour, sizing and position of the decals and followed up when I forgot to reply to their emails. Very happy with the service.

Painted 52cm frame weighed 875 grams. Build quality according to my untrained eye is well above the Yoeleo R12 I'm coming from which had many issues I was never happy with. Internal photos - see for yourself. I appreciated the faced brake mounts. I have done several hundred kms on it so far and it's a ripper of a frame. Stiff yet comfortable, I've smashed plenty of Strava PBs so far.

No problems with the T47 BB and the Magene PES P505 crankset.

Big +1 just for the name. Sorry @Serge but it beats your Tractor's name ;).
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: pandinoyoung on June 08, 2025, 07:45:48 AM
I would have put the name FIKARELLO  FIKA=FICA in Italian means vagina ;D
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on June 09, 2025, 05:37:38 AM
here's mine in final setup.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Kar25 on June 09, 2025, 10:57:54 AM
here's mine in final setup.

Can you please tell us the quick specs and final weight...and how does it ride?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on June 10, 2025, 02:58:48 AM
Weight bottles excluded 6850 gr but with saddle bag

Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: MARIOVL on June 29, 2025, 02:14:26 PM
Here's my FL1 aka the Pikarello. I designed some decals, picked the paint colour and ICAN took care of the rest. They sent design mockups and numerous photos throughout the process regarding the paint colour, sizing and position of the decals and followed up when I forgot to reply to their emails. Very happy with the service.

Painted 52cm frame weighed 875 grams. Build quality according to my untrained eye is well above the Yoeleo R12 I'm coming from which had many issues I was never happy with. Internal photos - see for yourself. I appreciated the faced brake mounts. I have done several hundred kms on it so far and it's a ripper of a frame. Stiff yet comfortable, I've smashed plenty of Strava PBs so far.

No problems with the T47 BB and the Magene PES P505 crankset.
How is the paint's quality??
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Tunapuff on June 29, 2025, 10:51:05 PM
I give it a proper look over - it's flawless. Didn't see any overspray into places there shouldn't be paint.

I had a look at their painting process video before so I was somewhat confident it would turn out nicely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlvocDJBluk
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on June 30, 2025, 01:21:56 AM
Just got one.
Really nicely made frame. Clear coat finish looks perfect to me, and everything is going together as it should.
About fifteen days from order to arrival.
Have popped up a build thread on WW.
I would say buy with confidence :-)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Bobinski on June 30, 2025, 01:54:46 AM
Here's my FL1 aka the Pikarello. I designed some decals, picked the paint colour and ICAN took care of the rest. They sent design mockups and numerous photos throughout the process regarding the paint colour, sizing and position of the decals and followed up when I forgot to reply to their emails. Very happy with the service.

Painted 52cm frame weighed 875 grams. Build quality according to my untrained eye is well above the Yoeleo R12 I'm coming from which had many issues I was never happy with. Internal photos - see for yourself. I appreciated the faced brake mounts. I have done several hundred kms on it so far and it's a ripper of a frame. Stiff yet comfortable, I've smashed plenty of Strava PBs so far.

No problems with the T47 BB and the Magene PES P505 crankset.

Fantastic build and finish. Love the little touches.

I would be all over this frame if it was UDH for a 1x13.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: ProtonClimber on August 04, 2025, 06:01:22 PM
I am almost decided on the frameset. How does the frame feel on flats? How would you describe it in comparison with the more aero frames? Does it feel slower at 35-40 kph speeds?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Tunapuff on August 04, 2025, 06:51:17 PM
It is flat where I live, but I wanted something more comfortable than my Yoeleo R12 on 3+ hour rides. I have no problem hanging on to fast-ish group rides (33km/hr avg, 600m elevation, 85km), I also set a few KOMs in my area already with this frame. I don't feel like I have lost any speed going from the R12 (aero-ish frame) to this one, but I am not A grade material with insane watts, I'm just a 42 year old weekend warrior, mostly riding solo, at 2.9wpg. Definitely not an all out aero bike and it's no Cervelo S5, but I am happy with it for what it is. I was looking at an Specialized Aethos but I came across this and I was able to get it custom painted for a fraction of the cost :)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Neusi on August 12, 2025, 03:20:09 PM
Hi,

I built a Fl1 last year and got enough kilometers to share my opinion about this frame. (Excuse my poor English) My configuration is Fl1 56cm, Sram Force axs groupset, Avian Canary 130x420mm, Assioma pro rs2, Farsports C3 with Conti GP5000.
The contact with Sherry was really good, the configuration, payment, and shipping were simple and quick.
The quality of the frame is good, the bottom bracket and brake caliper areas have been machined and are absolutely ready for assembly. So building was really easy. I first tried a mechanical groupset, but the space around the bottom bracket is really tight, adjusting the front derailleur is not easy. I recommend an electronic groupset.
Riding is very comfortable, even on bad surfaces, climbing is fun. I've never had an aero bike, so I can't compare.
But I think it's not the stiffest frame. I was in the Swiss Alps and I have to say that descending is not very pleasant. I had big problems with speed wobbling, which started at 35-40 km/h and only stopped when you pressed your legs against the top tube. You have to actively descend with the frame and cannot just let it run.
Maybe it's my fault or the configuration is not good, but these are my experiences with the bike so far.
Has anyone else noticed the same thing and found a solution?
Nevertheless, I do not regret the purchase, it is a nice frame for the price. However, you can tell that the price difference to the big brands is not just due to marketing.
Regards and success for your built ups,
Stefan

Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Tunapuff on August 12, 2025, 06:26:22 PM
That's strange about the speed wobbles. I don't have big mountains in my area, but on short descents above 45kph I have no issues with the bike shaking. I have not been faster than 60km on this frame.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: JayBee on August 13, 2025, 12:31:15 PM
Regarding speed wobbles....

I've ridden my FL1 roughly 5600km this year and routinely do Cat1 and HC climbs near me. What goes up, must come down...so I've done a lot of descending at 70+ kph.

I've experienced speed wobbles exactly once which I attribute to a confluence of events unrelated to the frame itself: I was fairly cold descending, there was a particularly strong crosswind in exposed sections of the descent, and my wheels were somewhat deep with bladed carbon spokes.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Neusi on August 13, 2025, 02:17:47 PM
Thank you for your feedback. Good to hear that this is not a common problem with the frame. So i will start troubleshooting, my frame is not damaged. Some have also installed the Avian Canary, are there any problems with speed wobbling? The handlebars seem to be very flexible to me.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Smokemachine on August 22, 2025, 12:55:13 AM
What derailleur hanger does this frame use? UDH?
Also is this an EPS mold?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on August 22, 2025, 01:41:56 AM
It's not udh, standard replaceable hanger.
Don't know how it's moulded but the internal looks very good.

Regarding speed wobble....
I've had over  70kph fairly regularly now and no wobble to report. Over 80kph a few times. Feels rock solid on descents. Frame size 56.
For the record that's with two sets of wheels, first set were 50mm elite and the current set are 35mm XMCS.
Both sets of wheels used the same conti gp5k 30mm.
Stem is 130mm and bars are 300mm wide.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: 70Herald on August 31, 2025, 12:43:16 PM
Ok for those of you who have owned this frame for a few months now..... would you still purchase it or something else?
Just got a quote and am thinking about what color (you know the important stuff)
So now that it is no longer super new do you still recommend it?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on September 01, 2025, 03:07:18 AM
Yes, it builds into a great bike.
Every now and again I do wonder how much faster a full aero frame would be, but that's about it.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Tunapuff on September 09, 2025, 11:23:39 PM
There's always an itch to buy something new, but I still love mine. Picked up some KOMs on short sprint segments, so plenty fast for me :)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: cancan on September 14, 2025, 01:05:53 PM
Frames arrived and most of the parts required for the build.

Could someone confirm the bolt lengths required for shimano disc calipers with 140mm rotors or knows the frame thickness  https://si.shimano.com/en/dm/RADBR10/install_brake_caliper#xd_991fd65585931a99-18952947-17110754f5e--67e0
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Fish #6 on September 14, 2025, 02:12:42 PM
Frames arrived and most of the parts required for the build.

Could someone confirm the bolt lengths required for shimano disc calipers with 140mm rotors or knows the frame thickness  https://si.shimano.com/en/dm/RADBR10/install_brake_caliper#xd_991fd65585931a99-18952947-17110754f5e--67e0
The frame thickness is 20mm. Well, mine is.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: cancan on September 22, 2025, 07:31:53 AM
Bike was easy to put together and the quality seems great including the paintwork

Just needing bar tape now, once happy with the fit

Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on September 22, 2025, 09:54:33 AM
Fantastic colour!

Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the ride.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: crazyravr on September 22, 2025, 01:29:16 PM
@cancan please level your saddle :)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: cancan on October 05, 2025, 10:03:23 AM
Completed and with bar tape.

Definitely enjoying the bike and the frame is definitely very impressive even compared to the actual Aethos which this is definitely taking some inspiration and improving upon.

Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: jonathanf2 on October 05, 2025, 10:11:07 AM
The Aethos 2 is now an ICAN FL1 clone!  ;D
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Smokemachine on October 07, 2025, 08:55:33 AM
Completed and with bar tape.

Definitely enjoying the bike and the frame is definitely very impressive even compared to the actual Aethos which this is definitely taking some inspiration and improving upon.

Hiya,

Great looking bike, I love when someone dares to pick bold colors (comparing with the sea of black bikes). It really looks gorgeous.

out of curiosity, how many cm of spacers are your running between the frame and stem? what frame size is it? I might've missed it from a previous post. This frame is on my shortlist, but a tad low in stack vs ideal range (if you ask my bike fitter). The spacers don't take away from the look of the frame, i didn't react to them at a first sight.

Thanks
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: cancan on October 08, 2025, 06:12:29 AM
Thanks Its a 58cm frame with 3cm of the supplied spacers. Geometry is very similar to the Aethos and Tarmac
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Smokemachine on October 08, 2025, 08:04:11 AM
Thanks Its a 58cm frame with 3cm of the supplied spacers. Geometry is very similar to the Aethos and Tarmac

That's interesting, as I also would get a 58, but would need to increase the stack with 20-30mm as in your case

Which were your decision criteria's when selecting this frame?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: cancan on October 09, 2025, 03:02:24 AM
I actually have an Aethos that I had feared I had cracked so was looking for something similar

The ability to get a custom paint job and good reviews sealed the deal for me
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: 70Herald on October 23, 2025, 12:29:14 PM
My FL1 arrived today!
I was expecting it next week based on the shipping tracking website but suddenly got a call from a delivery guy and box showed up. Still waiting for the Carbon Speed wheels they apparently are taking a tour of all the European capital cities.

The build is going to be 40/50mm carbon speed wheels, 11 speed ultegra mechanical, Magene P515 power meter and since I only have mountains going up surrounding my house a big for road bikes 11-40 cluster.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on October 23, 2025, 02:06:26 PM
Great colour!
And chapeau on using mechanical, I'm glad I'm not alone;D
Looking forward to seeing it built!
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: 70Herald on October 24, 2025, 07:59:51 AM
For the mechanical... I assume you ran 1 cable housing the whole way from shifters to derailleur front and back? The other bikes all have some sort of cable stop both in front and back. looks like the rubber plugs might be a bit small for a housing especially in the front probably more for Di2 wire than a housing but that shouldn't be a major issue (maybe soft rubber?) didn't really take a look yet.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on October 24, 2025, 08:36:14 AM
For the mechanical... I assume you ran 1 cable housing the whole way from shifters to derailleur front and back? The other bikes all have some sort of cable stop both in front and back. looks like the rubber plugs might be a bit small for a housing especially in the front probably more for Di2 wire than a housing but that shouldn't be a major issue (maybe soft rubber?) didn't really take a look yet.

Yup, one outer cable all the way through.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: juraj123 on November 10, 2025, 04:13:40 AM
Completed and with bar tape.

Definitely enjoying the bike and the frame is definitely very impressive even compared to the actual Aethos which this is definitely taking some inspiration and improving upon.
hello, nice color,  question -  is it 56 or 58 size?  choosing bike for heigth 179cm/ leg87 and acc reach 56 seems ok..
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: alexgaignard on December 04, 2025, 05:39:06 AM
For those who bought the handlebars and seatpost with the frame, what do you think of them ?

Seatpost seems heavy compared to an elita one. Handlebar design is not my favourite but could go with it if it's stiff and good quality given it's really cheap when ordering with the frame.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: 70Herald on December 18, 2025, 12:51:31 PM
Finally got everything assembled and out for the first ride.
If I had been paying a bit more attention when I ordered.. I would have noticed that it was quoted with an in-line seatpost and to copy my seating position I needed an offset. no big deal just one more order and now everything fits nicely. Took a short 25 km trip and came back with a real big smile.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on December 20, 2025, 11:42:31 AM
Where are you buying the FL1? The Ican shop doesn't list it, no offers on AliX. Should I use the business-facing-looking site to 'Get a quote' and ask about a single frameset there?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on December 20, 2025, 01:34:06 PM
Where are you buying the FL1? The Ican shop doesn't list it, no offers on AliX. Should I use the business-facing-looking site to 'Get a quote' and ask about a single frameset there?

Just mail/message them here :-)

https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/t1000-carbon-road-disc-brake-frame-fl1-795g/
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Tpower59 on December 22, 2025, 06:54:17 AM
Just mail/message them here :-)

https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/t1000-carbon-road-disc-brake-frame-fl1-795g/

How much did you pay with shipping ?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on December 22, 2025, 09:57:18 AM
How much did you pay with shipping ?

Can't exactly remember, 550gbp with shipping but no bars or stem. Something like that.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on January 11, 2026, 11:42:57 AM
Still deciding between FL1 and Flyee. Flyee looks better on paper but is unfortunately uglier :/
How's the tire clearance on the FL1? I've seen people in this thread run 32mm tires, how's the clearance around those and are the tires 32mm WAM?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: c.etzo on January 12, 2026, 05:27:22 AM
i'm using gp5000 tlr 32mm on 26 inner rim and they're like 34-35 and there is a lot of space
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Fish #6 on January 13, 2026, 06:46:03 PM
I have 30mm GP5000 clinchers on 24 innner. They're a 32mm WAM after 2000km with a clear 7mm all round.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on February 06, 2026, 03:18:23 AM
Got the picture of my frameset, freshly painted  8)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: langereise on February 06, 2026, 03:52:09 AM
Got the picture of my frameset, freshly painted  8)
Looks great! Which color code is this?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on February 06, 2026, 08:34:12 AM
Looks great! Which color code is this?

I'm not entirely sure. I was going for one of the example paintjobs from their website, then Linda sent me a catalog of FL1 paintjobs and I picked one from that. From the pic it looks a bit pearlescent which wasn't really visible in the picture 1 but might have been in the catalog one. The color code is YS955 but also specifying it's transparent and perhaps also pearlescent/metallic?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: tumtm on February 12, 2026, 03:15:46 AM
I'm currently riding a Velobuild R268. I'm happy with it, but I frequently participate in hill climb races, so I'm looking for a UCI-certified frame. The ride feels more like an endurance bike, but do you think it would be suitable for racing? :)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on February 13, 2026, 04:36:10 AM
The geometry (in size 54) is basically the same as Tarmac SL8 which is the 'standard race bike' (which is also pretty similar to your Velobuild). Do you really need the UCI sticker? Otherwise I'm not sure it's worth the 'upgrade'.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Lotnik on February 13, 2026, 05:50:51 AM
Got the picture of my frameset, freshly painted  8)
A nice one! What's the current price for painted frame?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on February 13, 2026, 12:24:30 PM
A nice one! What's the current price for painted frame?
$565 for bare frame (no handlebar or seatpost, which they include by default)
$90 painting fee (at least for this simple 1 color design from their catalogue)
$150 DPD 'tax-free' shipping
+ 5% for PayPal on top of those

TLDR: 3200 zł  ;D
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on March 04, 2026, 04:22:18 AM
The frame is here! It's a shame I'm so bad at taking photos :D
871g size M with der hangers, bottle cage bolts and cable guides
365g fork, uncut
81g thru axles :/ Seems there are no good alternatives online, these are unusually long.
14g saddle clamp, looks good too
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on March 04, 2026, 07:52:00 AM
Muqzi on Ali for axles buddy :)
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Fish #6 on March 04, 2026, 08:47:39 AM
Muqzi on Ali for axles buddy :)
Couldn't have put it better myself. (Probably because I copied you). 3000km on mine and problem free.

To Op:
Here they are: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006778954376.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006778954376.html)

Btw, lovely paintwork, looks fantastic and a good frame weight. Should build into a fabulous bike.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on March 04, 2026, 09:40:49 AM
Thanks! I have no idea how I missed them. Someone earlier was postin Hy TAs on ebay but those are gone :/
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: crazyravr on March 12, 2026, 07:11:36 AM
I am currently working with Sherry with the custom paint design. All I have to say is that they are very very accommodating and patient with all the ideas and changes along the way. Hope to finalize the it within a week or so.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: ereturn23 on March 18, 2026, 12:26:10 AM
Hi everyone, long-time lurker here. I wanted to share my experience building up an ICAN FL1.

My goal was to build a carbon race bike that’s more aggressive than my current alloy endurance bike, while still being practical and relatively easy to service. I also wanted to try electronic shifting. I’m fairly comfortable with hands-on work, so I felt ready to take this on.

I chose the ICAN FL1 for its clean design and straightforward compatibility (round seatpost, standard 52mm headset, etc.). The geometry also suited what I was looking for: slightly longer reach and significantly lower stack compared to my current bike. The UCI certification and generally positive feedback on ICAN gave me enough confidence to proceed.

Ordering the frameset was smooth. I worked with Sherry on a simple paint job, and the frame was ready to ship in about a week. I am based in Southeast Asia, so shipping was also quick, taking roughly another week.

Assembly was mostly straightforward. One feature I really appreciated was the pre-installed guides for internal routing. This made cable and hose installation much easier: I simply taped them to the guides and pulled them through. I used the same method for the handlebar, which worked well.

The only issue I encountered was mounting the hydraulic brake calipers. The bolts included with the groupset didn’t quite fit, so I had to source alternative lengths. From what I’ve seen in ICAN build videos and forum discussions, this seems fairly common and not specific to this frame. On a positive note, the caliper mounting surfaces were well-finished: flat and free of paint.

So here’s the build:

Frameset: ICAN FL1 (54cm)
Handlebar: LightCarbon HBR14 (110mm stem, 380/400mm width)
Seatpost: Elita One (27.2mm)
Saddle: Elita One
Groupset: Shimano 105 R7170
Wheelset: Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51
Tubes: TPU
Tyres: Continental GP5000 (28mm)
Rotors: Shimano RT-CL900 (160mm front, 140mm rear)
Crankset & Powermeter: Magene PES P515
Chainring: Stone 110R2 (52/36T)
Pedals: Onirii PD-06 (Extended Ti)
Cassette: ZTTO SLR Gen3 (12-speed, 11–30T)
Chain: KMC X12
Bottom Bracket: Senicx T47-85.5-24R (Steel)
Bottle Cages: Giant Propel Aero

Total weight comes in at around 7.8kg. On the road, the bike feels fast, agile, and reponsive which is exactly what I was aiming for. Overall, I am very satisfied with how the build turned out!

Thanks for reading!
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Creasetoff on March 18, 2026, 03:49:38 AM
Hi everyone, long-time lurker here. I wanted to share my experience building up an ICAN FL1.

My goal was to build a carbon race bike that’s more aggressive than my current alloy endurance bike, while still being practical and relatively easy to service. I also wanted to try electronic shifting. I’m fairly comfortable with hands-on work, so I felt ready to take this on.

I chose the ICAN FL1 for its clean design and straightforward compatibility (round seatpost, standard 52mm headset, etc.). The geometry also suited what I was looking for: slightly longer reach and significantly lower stack compared to my current bike. The UCI certification and generally positive feedback on ICAN gave me enough confidence to proceed.

Ordering the frameset was smooth. I worked with Sherry on a simple paint job, and the frame was ready to ship in about a week. I am based in Southeast Asia, so shipping was also quick, taking roughly another week.

Assembly was mostly straightforward. One feature I really appreciated was the pre-installed guides for internal routing. This made cable and hose installation much easier: I simply taped them to the guides and pulled them through. I used the same method for the handlebar, which worked well.

The only issue I encountered was mounting the hydraulic brake calipers. The bolts included with the groupset didn’t quite fit, so I had to source alternative lengths. From what I’ve seen in ICAN build videos and forum discussions, this seems fairly common and not specific to this frame. On a positive note, the caliper mounting surfaces were well-finished: flat and free of paint.

So here’s the build:

Frameset: ICAN FL1 (54cm)
Handlebar: LightCarbon HBR14 (110mm stem, 380/400mm width)
Seatpost: Elita One (27.2mm)
Saddle: Elita One
Groupset: Shimano 105 R7170
Wheelset: Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51
Tubes: TPU
Tyres: Continental GP5000 (28mm)
Rotors: Shimano RT-CL900 (160mm front, 140mm rear)
Crankset & Powermeter: Magene PES P515
Chainring: Stone 110R2 (52/36T)
Cassette: ZTTO SLR Gen3 (12-speed, 11–30T)
Chain: KMC X12
Bottom Bracket: Senicx T47-85.5-24R (Steel)
Bottle Cages: Giant Propel Aero

Total weight comes in at around 7.8kg. On the road, the bike feels fast, agile, and reponsive which is exactly what I was aiming for. Overall, I am very satisfied with how the build turned out!

Thanks for reading!

Looks really good mate. Is your chain too short though? And the joint at the quick link does not look straight, is it seated properly?
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: ereturn23 on March 18, 2026, 04:01:52 AM
Looks really good mate. Is your chain too short though? And the joint at the quick link does not look straight, is it seated properly?

Thank you, I really like how it turned out.

Now that you mention it, the chain might be a bit short. I followed the big-big method and shifting has been fine so far, but I’ll take another look, especially at the quick link. Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: ereturn23 on March 23, 2026, 10:04:54 AM
A couple of posts ago, there was some discussion about getting lightweight aftermarket axels. Hence, I decided to look into it myself. Here are the specifications of the stock ICAN axels:

Front Axel: Diameter: 12mm, Length: 123mm, Threading: M12 (Pitch: 1.5mm) * 14mm
Rear Axel: Diameter: 12mm, Length: 168mm, Threading: M12 (Pitch: 1.5mm) * 16mm

After searching on AliExpress, I found matching ones from Deemont and have purchased them. They just arrived today and I have installed them. They fit and here is a weight comparison:

Stock: 37.0g | Aftermarket: 26.7g (-10.3g)
Stock: 48.9g | Aftermarket: 35.1g (-13.8g)

While there is some weight savings here, I don't think I will be able to feel the difference. This was more of a "why not" upgrade. Hope this helps anyone who's interested!
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on March 23, 2026, 10:58:02 AM
At least the new ones will match visually, Ican speccing mismatched TAs is really baffling :/
I've ordered a pair as well (from Muqzi, which look identical), it's a shame the FL1 doesn't use a more popular size eg. based on the Aethos/Tarmac, planty of aftermarket options for lightweight gear for those frames.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on March 23, 2026, 11:39:29 AM
Tried it with some 65mm wheels :o
She certainly trucks along with them, and I do quite like the look of it!
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: carbonMad on March 23, 2026, 03:15:30 PM
Tried it with some 65mm wheels :o
She certainly trucks along with them, and I do quite like the look of it!
They do look good. 50mm rims can start looking a bit anaemic with larger road tires.

To bring the topic back to standards for a bit more: Does anyone know if FL1 share the der hanger with any western frame or follows any standard? I've bought 2 spares to be safe but I'd love to find a direct mount hanger.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Lotnik on March 24, 2026, 06:56:42 AM
Tried it with some 65mm wheels :o
She certainly trucks along with them, and I do quite like the look of it!
I would set too fat for this bike.
Title: Re: ICAN FL1
Post by: Pistonbroke on March 24, 2026, 07:46:34 AM
What a gorgeous bike!! Did you get the rims on AliExpress? Do you think I’d get a similar look with these https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005008005662449.html (https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_c3YVZTt1)? If so, could you let me know which model yours are? Thanks!

Mine are XMCS wheels but guess most 65mm deep wheels would look similar from the side :)