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Other Resources => Component Deals & Selection => Topic started by: amacal1 on January 10, 2025, 10:26:49 AM
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Looking for anyone who's had any good experiences with some shoes, preferably road shoes I'll be putting RC7 clips for powertap pedals. I did a quick search of the forum and not much came up. A couple of people posted some Darevie shoes and one for Santic. The santic piqued my interest because I have a bib by Santic that I'm quite pleased with, but I see most of their prices are really high, as high as western brands, except for one shoe they sell.
I'm considering these, just based on the brand.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804626982042.html
I'm considering these because I like the low-key branding, the look, and the streamlined single BOA fit.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807136310263.html
Anyone else have any recommendations?
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I have these: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806406774206.html
Not ridden yet, but initial thoughts are that they seem very well made, fit perfect for my size, the dials work great and the soles are what I expect from carbon – very stiff.
Waiting on cleats to come in to mount and ride.
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I have these: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806406774206.html
Not ridden yet, but initial thoughts are that they seem very well made, fit perfect for my size, the dials work great and the soles are what I expect from carbon – very stiff.
Waiting on cleats to come in to mount and ride.
That particular color isn't my favorite, but otherwise that shoe looks pretty nice and it's a good price.
I just pulled the trigger on that pair of Xternity shoes I linked to.
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Currently riding these: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMBsLMx
Very stiff sole, feels similar to a S Phyre pair I have. Boa system is obviously cheaper than S phyre but works very well. Highly recommend them for the price.
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Trace Velo on Youtube have some positive reviews on the Sidebike brand.
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I've ridden the red/white sidebike shoes in the past (about 5 years ago) https://aliexpi.com/D8Eb (https://aliexpi.com/D8Eb)
They were quiet comfortable, but not in comparison with S-PHYRE or S-works in terms of stiffness. Looking at the newer models, I see they have the same stiffness index of 14, but I would guess they improved in the meantime?
In any case, they had a good fit and where not to narrow as I would have expected from asian shoes.
The question remains if you want to take the gamble investing 100ish USD/EUR in shoes that might not fit you well.
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Best looking SPD shoes on Ali right no IMO
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805983618808.html
My first pair of actual SPD-SL road shoes. Absolutely love these things and the carbon sole is great.
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Looking for anyone who's had any good experiences with some shoes, preferably road shoes I'll be putting RC7 clips for powertap pedals. I did a quick search of the forum and not much came up. A couple of people posted some Darevie shoes and one for Santic. The santic piqued my interest because I have a bib by Santic that I'm quite pleased with, but I see most of their prices are really high, as high as western brands, except for one shoe they sell.
I'm considering these, just based on the brand.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804626982042.html
I'm considering these because I like the low-key branding, the look, and the streamlined single BOA fit.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807136310263.html
Anyone else have any recommendations?
I have these Santics since 2 years.
Although they don't have a carbon sole, they are quite stiff. The inner sole is some very hard material.
They are quite nice. The toe box is rounded and not too narrow. For me that's a good thing for cycling. Nothing more painful than a squeezed toe.
You need to consider that the fixation points can't be shifted, as .e.g. on Shimano shoes. So you can "only" shift it with the cleat oblong holes. A lot of shoes don't have this double sliding option.. but just if this is important to you.
For the sizing the shop contact sent me photos with measurements of the inner sole length. If you have a fitting shoe, you can measure it also.
For me the result is the same size as for Shimano and Northwave. Which is 41 for all of them.
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I have these Santics since 2 years.
Although they don't have a carbon sole, they are quite stiff. The inner sole is some very hard material.
They are quite nice. The toe box is rounded and not too narrow. For me that's a good thing for cycling. Nothing more painful than a squeezed toe.
You need to consider that the fixation points can't be shifted, as .e.g. on Shimano shoes. So you can "only" shift it with the cleat oblong holes. A lot of shoes don't have this double sliding option.. but just if this is important to you.
For the sizing the shop contact sent me photos with measurements of the inner sole length. If you have a fitting shoe, you can measure it also.
For me the result is the same size as for Shimano and Northwave. Which is 41 for all of them.
Nice. Kinda making me regret not ordering the Santics. I'll see how the ones I ordered fare, and maybe consider those if they don't work out. Thanks!
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Also interested in a pair of shoes, anyone knows a place to get full custom ie L W and full carbon moldable
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I have these Santics since 2 years.
Although they don't have a carbon sole, they are quite stiff. The inner sole is some very hard material.
They are quite nice. The toe box is rounded and not too narrow. For me that's a good thing for cycling. Nothing more painful than a squeezed toe.
You need to consider that the fixation points can't be shifted, as .e.g. on Shimano shoes. So you can "only" shift it with the cleat oblong holes. A lot of shoes don't have this double sliding option.. but just if this is important to you.
Okay, it's official. I kinda regret not getting these Santics. The Xternity shoes I bought were about $25 less and I like the aesthetics more, but they aren't that comfortable, aren't stiff at all, and I'm not certain how long they'll hold up. In fairness, they were VERY cheap. And, they do look VERY good, lol. And, they haven't broken or torn (yet). I think the problem is relying on the single BOA for securing the entire shoe. It must be overly tightened to get it even moderately snug, and the stress seems to re-distribute while riding to create un-even pressure on the top of my foot. Also, it just isn't that stiff.
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Okay, it's official. I kinda regret not getting these Santics. The Xternity shoes I bought were about $25 less and I like the aesthetics more, but they aren't that comfortable, aren't stiff at all, and I'm not certain how long they'll hold up. In fairness, they were VERY cheap. And, they do look VERY good, lol. And, they haven't broken or torn (yet). I think the problem is relying on the single BOA for securing the entire shoe. It must be overly tightened to get it even moderately snug, and the stress seems to re-distribute while riding to create un-even pressure on the top of my foot. Also, it just isn't that stiff.
Life is to short for bad shoes.
You can still order them. ;)
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Does anyone have any experiences or recommendations for cheap/entry level shoes? Getting into (road) cycling this summer and have not had much luck finding things second hand locally.
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Does anyone have any experiences or recommendations for cheap/entry level shoes? Getting into (road) cycling this summer and have not had much luck finding things second hand locally.
If you go for AliExpress.. you really should have a very good idea of what you need, what could fit your feet. Which you can't have as you don't have the experience.
For my first shoes I guess I had to try 6 different pairs.. and in the end they still turned out to be not optimal and I gave them away to a friend.
You can get good deals when looking at end of season sales.
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I have these Santics since 2 years.
Don't know about the shoe's performance but loving the matching shoes and socks! 8)
So far, I only bought some cheap winter cycling shoes for about 32 USD. They perform as well as you would expect from a 32 dollar shoe. Though walking in them is quite nice compared to my Shimano's ;D
For my summer road cycling, I'm using Shimano RC702. Night and day compared to the cheap AE shoes. Which was to be expected. During winter I don't care too much about performance. Just wanna be warm. Got those Shimano's locally for around 160 USD on a sale. For Gravel I have Shimano XC502 which I also picked up in a sale for around 90 USD.
Since the price difference to AE "performance" shoes isn't all that much, it wasn't appealing to me to try them - literally: fit is very important and if you can't return them (easily) I wouldn't order. Except if I had the exakt same model already and know they fit me.
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If you go for AliExpress.. you really should have a very good idea of what you need, what could fit your feet. Which you can't have as you don't have the experience.
For my first shoes I guess I had to try 6 different pairs.. and in the end they still turned out to be not optimal and I gave them away to a friend.
You can get good deals when looking at end of season sales.
I agree with the sentiment, but I would probably take a risk one way or another since I am opting for a budget route be it through local classifieds or otherwise. First pair will not be a winner one way or another, and would be okay being out $40CAD vs $140CAD on my first miss. Would you have any recs for where I can find old season shoes (and perhaps cleat recs)? My bike has Shimano PD-530 pedals which I understand are SPD and not SPD-SL.
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I've got 2 pair of cheaper AliEx shoes much like these; https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807136310263.html
They are "ok". The cleat placement was very far forward and the toebox was very narrow.
I have some $70 Bontrager road shoes that absolutely blow them out the water in comfort for road shoes.
As far as mtb/gravel shoes I almost always wear my Shimano rx8s but I have a pair of Adidas and a pair of five10 shoes that I strap on when I know i'll be walking a bit during a ride.
I grabbed them for under $30 from Ross and TJMaxx. You'll have to go into a Ross continually to find the five10s. TJMaxx has Adidas, shimano and five10 and a website to search and order from.
https://www.sierra.com/s~bike-shoe/ (as of april 9,2025 they have a few adidas and shimano road shoes for $30-60 including the shimano rc702 for $60 in 41,42,46)
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I agree with the sentiment, but I would probably take a risk one way or another since I am opting for a budget route be it through local classifieds or otherwise. First pair will not be a winner one way or another, and would be okay being out $40CAD vs $140CAD on my first miss. Would you have any recs for where I can find old season shoes (and perhaps cleat recs)? My bike has Shimano PD-530 pedals which I understand are SPD and not SPD-SL.
How should I know about shops in Canada?!
Sorry but this is pretty weird..
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How should I know about shops in Canada?!
Sorry but this is pretty weird..
"classifieds" means second hand, he didn't talk about Canadian shops. Afaik, canadian shops only sell moose meat and maple syrup anyway.
Does anyone have any experiences or recommendations for cheap/entry level shoes? Getting into (road) cycling this summer and have not had much luck finding things second hand locally.
If you dont have unusual feet - which i guess you know if you do -, i wouldn't worry, just order cheap shoes your size that you like the look of. I've never had problems with bike shoes fitting me (obviously i buy them at the right size, but beyond that no problem).
I own 2 pairs of second hand Gaerne full carbon shoes, because i'm a cheap ass and liked the idea of buying second hand shoes to flex to my friends that my shoes are second hand (I'm weird like that). They're rigid AF.
This winter, i bought a pair of AliX winter shoes, the black ones with one boa dial and the tongue that covers the shoe. They're very soft, the sole is very flexy, and they're cheap. But they're quite warm so mission accomplished. Honestly, they're fine. If you're just entering the sport, dont worry too much about sole stiffness. The flexy ones feel much less dangerous to walk in stairs with, btw.
If you dont expect a 30$ shoe (with probably 15$ of shipping baked in the price) to perform the same as a $100, let alone 300 or 400 shoe, i dont think you'll be disappointed, assuming you have feet that fall in the belly of the bell curve.
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I've got 2 pair of cheaper AliEx shoes much like these; https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807136310263.html
They are "ok". The cleat placement was very far forward and the toebox was very narrow.
I have some $70 Bontrager road shoes that absolutely blow them out the water in comfort for road shoes.
I have the very same shoes, I believe. I don't have any gripe about the cleat placement, but I can confirm the narrow toe box and overall not great comfort.
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"classifieds" means second hand, he didn't talk about Canadian shops. Afaik, canadian shops only sell moose meat and maple syrup anyway.
He said classified OR OTHERWISE. By the way. Maybe you should improve your reading capabilities instead of trying to teach people what classified means.
Anyway, your writing is insulting 2 persons at the same time . Wow!
Still though.. how should I know about Canadian shops. Asking in CAD should tell someone is probably living in Canada, at least it's most unlikely that you live in Spain and want to pay in CAD.
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These Lameda ones could be worth a try, quite new though so don't know anything about them:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqpRisT
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I've tried Santic and Shimano shoes before, but they were too narrow for my wide, flat feet, so I ended up selling them.
After getting a bike fit and a proper sizing recommendation, I checked out Lake Cycling shoes — and I’ve never worn anything else since!
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I have these: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806406774206.html
Not ridden yet, but initial thoughts are that they seem very well made, fit perfect for my size, the dials work great and the soles are what I expect from carbon – very stiff.
Waiting on cleats to come in to mount and ride.
Just following up on this post. I think I've put on about 1700 miles on these shoes. Probably about 2/3 of the time on the rollers indoors. The rest outdoors in temps ranging from about 40° to 80° F. Been very comfy. Very stiff. The buckles ratchet correctly. Overall I'm very impressed with the shoes. And I'm not saying that they are great for the price, I'm saying they are great shoes. Of course it's only 6 months in so I can't say anything about longevity.
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I'm considering these because I like the low-key branding, the look, and the streamlined single BOA fit.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807136310263.html
Anyone else have any recommendations?
I figured I should report back on these shoes because I gave them a bad rap previously. I said I regretted ordering them because they were not good and I didn't think they'd hold up. Well, I've likely put over 1500mi on them so far and they're holding up great. They're still not great shoes, as I don't find them to be very stiff and they could be more comfortable. Also, the way the single BOA straps tighten makes it hard to get a good snug fit on either the toe or the midfoot or both (2 boas or a 1 boa and a toe strap would probably help a lot).
BUT, the BOAs have held up great. The shoe still looks great. It's a mesh material and it stays very cool and dry-ish for summer riding. Honestly, for the very little money I paid for these, you could get a worse shoe.
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I have been happily using these Sidebike shoes for the past year.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006045609259.html
They are easy to keep clean with a rag after riding. I recommend avoiding riding in the wet, since the BOA gets gummed up and unlatching gets difficult.
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I've tried Santic and Shimano shoes before, but they were too narrow for my wide, flat feet, so I ended up selling them.
After getting a bike fit and a proper sizing recommendation, I checked out Lake Cycling shoes — and I’ve never worn anything else since!
Which model did you pick ? CX242 ?
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I have had the Sidebike SD-17 shoes for 2 seasons and approximately 6000 miles. I have relatively narrow feet and they have worked well for me. They breath well, are comfortable without hot spots. Boa’s are still working great. Sizing seems to run true to size. It’s stiff enough for me, enough so I can’t detect any give, even when out of the saddle. It’s also holding up very well. I would definitely buy again. No regrets.
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Bumping with a specific shoe question to not clutter up the clothing thread: what, if anything, do we know about these guys https://www.ipfp.cc/ ? Any good? Are they visibly the same as something $100 cheaper from Santic or Sidebike?
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My problem is that most brands only go up to a size 46. As a size 47, it's a disaster to find products that fit. I would have gladly tried Santic https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005008012722872.html (https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_c33oRBsh); at that price, I really like them.
Also, almost two years ago, I found a pair of DMT R1s on Vinted (a European platform for used shoes) for €40. They're definitely shoes from a few years ago, but they're great.
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Just following up on this post. I think I've put on about 1700 miles on these shoes. Probably about 2/3 of the time on the rollers indoors. The rest outdoors in temps ranging from about 40° to 80° F. Been very comfy. Very stiff. The buckles ratchet correctly. Overall I'm very impressed with the shoes. And I'm not saying that they are great for the price, I'm saying they are great shoes. Of course it's only 6 months in so I can't say anything about longevity.
Second followup: I think I put about 3000 more miles on the shoes, did a lot of virtual riding over the past winter. The shoes are still doing great. My only issue is that the plastic coating on the ATOP closure wire was wearing off the top wire where it entered the ratchet (both shoes). The plastic would get jammed in the ratchet system and sometimes wouldn't open without a lot of force. I ended up cutting the plastic off for that section and it has been fine since. I did order a replacement set of wires in case they fray or break. I may end up buying a spare ratchet as well. The parts are pretty inexpensive. So still factoring those in you really can't beat the price.
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Which model did you pick ? CX242 ?
hey i'm sorry i just saw your reply.
if i haven't answered yet, i've got two pairs of CX238 on wide model
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Has anyone tried this? https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0spM9 (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0spM9)
The look like bonts but for a fraction of the price.
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Has anyone tried this? https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0spM9 (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0spM9)
The look like bonts but for a fraction of the price.
Rather than those I would recommend Santic, you also spend a little less https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005008012722872.html? (https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_c4kPXSoX)
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Has anyone tried this? https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0spM9 (https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO0spM9)
Yes: https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3121.msg107904.html#msg107904
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I swear I haven't bought any more silly Chinese shoes since my last post, but has anyone tried
https://santic.com/products/santic-ti-tech-titanium-alloy-outsole-road-shoes?variant=49171637731565 ? Is a titanium sole actually all that? Also, looks like they're pretty narrow?
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I have shoes from sidebike (model 028) with carbon soles und 2 boa style mechanism. Im happy with the shoes especially as i only paid 130 Euro for them.
I wanted to buy a pair this summer from santic but ther prices double and are nor more interesting. Last year the shoe i wanted was sold for 145 with coupouns and now it costs 288 :o .
So at the moment i'd rather go with sidebike.
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anyone can compare the sidebike 020 and 028?
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Has anyone tried this sidebike model? https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005008194519838.html (https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_c2J6QBJz)
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anyone can compare the sidebike 020 and 028?
yes i had both. the 028 is more premium build (boa style lock is better e.g.). I prefer the 028
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yes i had both. the 028 is more premium build (boa style lock is better e.g.). I prefer the 028
Are the 028 true to size or run small? My foot is 286mm so I would need a 45sz (290mm).... on paper. Whats it like in real life figures? Also, whats the width of the actual insert / sole?
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I have the sidebike sd017 variant and they’ve held up quite well after a year. I do recommend! Fits tts
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Hey! Anyone tried the WILDTO Bont style shoe https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011905580265.html ? Looks prety good.
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I've never heard of this brand to be honest. They seem well-made, but there aren't many reviews. I recommend Santic. You have both the "expensive" model https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005009393122272.html (https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_c3v5kXI1) and the cheaper model https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005008012722872.html. Both are excellent shoes.
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Hey! Anyone tried the WILDTO Bont style shoe https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011905580265.html ? Looks prety good.
Pretty sure someone posted about these here before and that they were absolute garbage and nothing like the Bonts. From what I recall the posted commented that they were very flexy and not wide at all.
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Cannot find shoes in over 46 which seem to be good. Any tips there?
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I've notice that, i have a 47 Dmt shoes, cannot find any 46+ shoes. The only one that i can find are those http://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005008744190253.html (https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_c41i6gDL) but i dont think thery are worth it
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Pretty sure someone posted about these here before and that they were absolute garbage and nothing like the Bonts. From what I recall the posted commented that they were very flexy and not wide at all.
These arent the "bodoo" bont style shoes, these are "wildto" brand, which I'm pretty sure is the same brand as santic. Could be wrong thou
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Cannot find shoes in over 46 which seem to be good. Any tips there?
try these and never go by the size liste. Always go by the insole length in cm and compare to your feet length in cm.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011553370594.html
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Hey! Anyone tried the WILDTO Bont style shoe https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005011905580265.html ? Looks prety good.
Pretty sure someone posted about these here before and that they were absolute garbage and nothing like the Bonts. From what I recall the posted commented that they were very flexy and not wide at all.
This is a different shoe. Supposed to be made by Santic. I wonder what's the weight and stiffness though.
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Pretty sure someone posted about these here before and that they were absolute garbage and nothing like the Bonts. From what I recall the posted commented that they were very flexy and not wide at all.
This is a different shoe. Supposed to be made by Santic. I wonder what's the weight and stiffness though.
Wait another week and I will tell you. I decided that the best way to test is to test it myself. Expectations here are about 2 of 10.