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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: klindsey00 on March 26, 2025, 10:47:05 AM

Title: LTWOO eTT
Post by: klindsey00 on March 26, 2025, 10:47:05 AM
Spotted this listing on yoeleo's Canadian website
First up close pictures I've seen outside of some people covering it at one of the bike shows last year. And the only place I've seen it listed for sale

Seems like it is fully wireless from the blips, Not sure if shimano is even wireless in the TT space at the front end. Also looks like there are no blips build into the brake levers.

https://www.yoeleocanada.com/products/ltwoo-er9-tt-groupset?srsltid=AfmBOoqY93HZPbaUZ0IQ-ByXKSePuiikO4CXe8CumswmLFPOrd5tkEhO

Figured this could be it's own thread because it would get buried in the erx/er9 one
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: ejump0 on March 26, 2025, 06:02:36 PM
mix wireless of axs with powersource of di2 (deraileurs)  ;)
not having buttons on brake lever is a missed opportunity. 

/these  built-in reservors in brake lever making the reach longer makes basebar looks nice.
us with mech brake levers, makes the front looks squashed  :-\
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: lavistaa on March 26, 2025, 09:30:20 PM
Hmmm, seems like a super niche product.   Don’t get why they exist.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: PineappleExpress234 on March 26, 2025, 11:53:15 PM
Hmmm, seems like a super niche product.   Don’t get why they exist.

How is this niche? Electronic shifting in the tri world is extremely limited and extremely expensive given the clientele (retired dentists probably).
Cervelo makes probably the only "entry level" tri bike with mechanical 105 and bottom barrel wheels, yet that starts at $5,100 AUD.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: rockerplates.de on March 27, 2025, 01:15:04 AM
It is a niche!
as Ltwoo has to deal with Triathletes...
i have asked 50 people in our club, NOBODY would trust Ltwoo for using it rather on a training bike or even in a race...
The most popular brand is sram...because 1 x setup are popular, not much money is involved..

They will have to built up trust, but i suppose it will be a domestic thing for china, but not for europe or the us...i suppose..
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: rockerplates.de on March 28, 2025, 03:17:48 AM
Hm, i have been running my shimanos without any problems so far..on tt and road bikes..

i think of using sram...running the blibs with new firmware does not need the expensive blib adaptor anymore...you basically you are free to choose the hydr. brakes, install is easy and very inexpensive...

but hey....if Ltwoo sponsors a pro tt athlet which acutally uses it, i think that is the point, i will think about it..otherwise, i will not risk any of races for an ltwoo setup.
if i have trouble with sram or shimano, the companies wont drop and ghost me, i actually get help and no, i do not have the experience everything faulty gets binned..shimano actually has a pretty good repair department...

we will see..
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: klindsey00 on March 28, 2025, 01:23:06 PM
Update: GCN video shows the TT brake levers have buttons and can work with the new MTB RD

Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: jonathanf2 on March 28, 2025, 01:46:42 PM
Update: GCN video shows the TT brake levers have buttons and can work with the new MTB RD

I was really surprised GCN is taking the time to showcase LTwoo hardware. I guess times are changing!
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: toxin on March 28, 2025, 05:24:38 PM
These look new. Probably got the same criticism in china
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: klindsey00 on April 03, 2025, 09:11:43 PM
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808300924938.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller.48.4332rNNWrNNWs3&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=43641565-ec97-4f8b-b4d9-c7bdd277086a&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:43641565-ec97-4f8b-b4d9-c7bdd277086a,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%224%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%2230050%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21777.00%21777.00%21%21%21777.00%21777.00%21%402103244817436114865877369ec2dc%2112000045360992635%21rec%21US%216153063243%21XZ&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller%7Cquery_from%3A

found a complete bike with eTT
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: rockerplates.de on April 04, 2025, 01:58:16 AM
well, gp lama stated in one youtube video, that there are still legal issues regarding patents....he did not care to use it, but for distributing and getting the brand sold in mass to oems...well, we will see..
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: klindsey00 on April 04, 2025, 10:28:49 AM
Yeah, not saying it is a good bike... Looks like complete junk, running the wire externally through those housing holes had me laughing.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: Da11as on April 04, 2025, 12:49:03 PM
Last: bike electronic components dont get repaired, they get binned. And they fail. Bike shops (i didn't realize) do report a pretty high failure rate on shimano stuff, for eg. So, i feel better replacing a 100$ derailleur than a 350 one, potentially even if the 100 one fails more than 3.5x as often (does it? will it?).
If you have faulty electronic component, you go to electronics engineer and not to bike mechanic. It is that simple. I can bet the bike shop that will hire at least one electronic engineer will be most popular bike shop for serious cyclists in any given area, and most of these failures are quite basic.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: klindsey00 on April 04, 2025, 02:13:55 PM
If you have faulty electronic component, you go to electronics engineer and not to bike mechanic. It is that simple. I can bet the bike shop that will hire at least one electronic engineer will be most popular bike shop for serious cyclists in any given area, and most of these failures are quite basic.

Most electronics technicians could track down the problems quite easy. Just need a scope and a multimeter. The PCB's are probably not made of many layers and the circuits are probably simpler than what the average person would think. So I'd agree that someone like that would be valuable to bike shops with the amount of electronic stuff in bikes now.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: RDY on April 05, 2025, 05:45:48 PM
Absolute trash bike, but super interesting to see that you can buy a complete turn key bike in one click with that groupset on. The only good thing on that bike is the groupset.

Seems pretty good for €750 complete ... especially when Yoeleo are selling the group complete for $999.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: raisinberry777 on April 05, 2025, 09:30:45 PM
It'll be more interesting to see the street price - clearly it'll be much lower than what Yeoleo are asking given those OEM prices. At the moment it seems like SRAM with blips or Wheeltop EDS OX are better choices for those using 1x.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: scottbro2 on April 06, 2025, 06:33:27 PM
i am very interested in a L-twoo ETT setup. Have been considering upgrading my triathlon rig from 10sp DA to a 11/12 Electronic.  Sram and Shimano TT setups are very expensive.  I will totallly try this out when available.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: klindsey00 on May 06, 2025, 08:46:18 AM
Trace velo posted his shanghai bike show vid, and has a segment on the ett and ltwoo in general.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: RDY on May 13, 2025, 06:47:06 AM
Very odd that the only online supplier not for the domestic market is Yoeleo Canada.  And they seem to be selling a now revised version.

It looked pretty good at SBS.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: Rapac on May 13, 2025, 04:07:48 PM
Upgrade parts to TT on AliExpress :

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EI7QWX8
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: RDY on May 13, 2025, 04:50:14 PM
Upgrade parts to TT on AliExpress :

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EI7QWX8

Significantly cheaper to buy an AXS RD, blips, and some TRP brakes.  Unless there's a reasonably priced full kit it doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: PineappleExpress234 on May 13, 2025, 07:34:21 PM
Is it?
Rival RD is about $450 aud. Blips are another $100-$150 and TRP brakes are about $350 a side.

Never mind, I actually opened my eyes. $300 for the blippy's, $400 for the brakes and another $220 shipping
Title: Re: LTWOO eTT
Post by: RDY on May 14, 2025, 05:54:40 AM
Is it?
Rival RD is about $450 aud. Blips are another $100-$150 and TRP brakes are about $350 a side.

Never mind, I actually opened my eyes. $300 for the blippy's, $400 for the brakes and another $220 shipping

€615-620 for rival rd, one set of blips, trp brakes.  which is over 250€ cheaper (being optimistic) than the LTWOO option.  even still it works out marginally less if you want 2x and 2 sets of blips.