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Title: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: cestmoi on May 09, 2025, 10:43:47 AM
Hi all, hope life is good.

I'm in the market for a good non-integrated gravel frame; carbon if possible. Various reasons but I really want to be able to choose my own cockpit, and I've fallen out of love with routing integrated headsets.

I'd also want to be able to run a regular seatpost, any of the standard widths will do the job.

Has anyone seen this unicorn in the wild?

TIA
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: SirBikealot on May 09, 2025, 10:56:03 AM
SP-Cycles G068 could be the unicorn.

https://www.sp-cycle.com/Spcycle-G068-T1000-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-Semi-Internal-Cable-UDH-Hanger-Disc-Brake-Aero-Carbon-Gravel-Bicycle-Frameset-p5700272.html
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: klindsey00 on May 09, 2025, 11:38:50 AM
SP-Cycles G068 could be the unicorn.

https://www.sp-cycle.com/Spcycle-G068-T1000-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-Semi-Internal-Cable-UDH-Hanger-Disc-Brake-Aero-Carbon-Gravel-Bicycle-Frameset-p5700272.html

both the G068 and G058 have a semi internal option offered by sp-cycle, I would recommend using an elita one seatpost as the clamp would slip on the one i got from sp. Saddle would tilt like crazy if i hit bumps even with it over torqued a lot. Get a good headset system over the one they include as well
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: cestmoi on May 09, 2025, 12:41:23 PM
Thanks both!
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: Ultramic on May 09, 2025, 08:13:25 PM
Technically speaking any frame will allow you to use a non integrated handlebar, the difference is the location of the cable entry points - down tube, head tube or headset cover. The latter is called a semi integrated setup which still allows you to use your own handlebar and stem.
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: FullCarbonAlchemist on May 10, 2025, 12:12:17 AM
Carbonda CFR 707 has both integrated and non integrated options. The non integrated frame can actually be run either way.
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: cestmoi on May 10, 2025, 02:50:37 AM
Thanks again all, food for thought.

Ultramic; thanks for your comment on options. Perhaps I misunderstood you, but it seems to me that a substantial number of frames are designed solely for integrated systems, and lack any downtube or other ports. My Ican road frame is a case in point: integrated and nothing else.

hence my question.
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: Ultramic on May 10, 2025, 06:38:42 AM
This is an example of what I was trying to say. Even on frame which has the cables running internally through the head tube, using a headset cover like the one attached will allow you to run your own bar/stem.
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: cestmoi on May 10, 2025, 07:44:23 AM
I see; thanks for the clarification, I'm wiser now!
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: klindsey00 on May 11, 2025, 08:07:27 PM
This is an example of what I was trying to say. Even on frame which has the cables running internally through the head tube, using a headset cover like the one attached will allow you to run your own bar/stem.

The OP said they didn't want to cable an integrated headset, This would still fall into that category but yes this allows you to choose your Bar stem to be just about whatever and not be limited to only an integrated stem/ handbar stem combo.
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: cestmoi on May 12, 2025, 02:44:44 AM
The OP said they didn't want to cable an integrated headset, This would still fall into that category but yes this allows you to choose your Bar stem to be just about whatever and not be limited to only an integrated stem/ handbar stem combo.

Absolutely, and thanks. As you say, for this build I'm needing something with no integration. I dont want to have to remove cables or hoses to change any bearings.
Title: Re: Recommend me a non-integrated gravel frame with a standard seatpost?
Post by: trailgazer on May 13, 2025, 07:14:59 AM
For more info (and a picture) on the matter semi-integrated cockpits, see https://www.massacan.cc/en/pages/quel-cockpit-pour-paula
I went for the FSA SMR semi integrated.