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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: ains on November 19, 2025, 06:23:19 AM
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Hello,
Had anybody seen chinese carbon gravel frameset for 29x2,2 or 29x2,4 tires on AliExpress?
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I would recommend to look at a hardtail 29er mtb frame and just put a dropbar on it if you're looking at that much tire clearance.
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I am 168 sm height so mtb frame of this small size with rigid mtb fork and a dropbar will look like a centaur ;D (see attached photos)
There are many carbon gravel bikes that fit wide mtb tires and don't look like centaur :) One good example is Storm Makai - https://stormsports.nl/en/products/storm-makai-beachbike-gravelbike But they are a bit expensive :(
Hope guys from Ali Express will make gravel frames for mtb tires someday too.
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Depending on the frame, radial XC tires might allow wider but lower tires on gravel frames-really want to see the bicycle rolling resistance testing on these as well.
https://bikerumor.com/zleen-racerunner-radical-truly-radial-xc-tire-drops-40-rolling-resistance-25-weight/ (https://bikerumor.com/zleen-racerunner-radical-truly-radial-xc-tire-drops-40-rolling-resistance-25-weight/)
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Depending on the frame, radial XC tires might allow wider but lower tires on gravel frames-really want to see the bicycle rolling resistance testing on these as well.
https://bikerumor.com/zleen-racerunner-radical-truly-radial-xc-tire-drops-40-rolling-resistance-25-weight/ (https://bikerumor.com/zleen-racerunner-radical-truly-radial-xc-tire-drops-40-rolling-resistance-25-weight/)
That is an interesting info. Will be checking news about those tires.
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By the way, just made a drawing of the Dropbar MTB with rigid fork in size XS using BXT-MTB-066 frame. This frame in size XS has almost the same reach as my Carbonda CFR505 gravel bike in size M. But the result is looking really bad :)
I think it is better to wait until guys from AliExpress will make carbon gravel frame for wide MTB tires than to ride strange looking MTB Dropbar bicycle :)
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Good news! :D Guys from Seraph and Spcycle from AliExpress wrote me that they will develop a new gravel frame for 700x55 tires in 2026! 700x55 is the same as 29x2.1, so it will be a good option for those who want to ride gravel bike on 29x2.1 Schwalbe Thunder Burt tires. Hope those frames will have affordable prices :)
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Sounds good 👍😊
I was almost getting the BXT -056 for this purpose
, but maybe I will wait a little longer
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Sounds good 👍😊
I was almost getting the BXT -056 for this purpose
, but maybe I will wait a little longer
BXT-MTB-056 frame has a long MTB reach. You will need to use very small MTB stem or use frame one or two sizes smaller if you want to install a dropbar. Also the stack of this frame is very high too. I've compared geometry of plenty of AliExpress MTB frames with my Carbonda CFR505 gravel frameset in size M on bikeinsights.com . BXT-MTB-066 frame in size XS was the only one that had almost the same reach as Carbonda CFR505 in size M. But the dropbar build even of this frame looks very weird. I think BXT-MTB-056 with dropbar will look much more weird :)
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Yes I know it has longer reach, than my other bikes .
I would have used 60mm stem instead of normal 90 to compensate that difference.
Also the stack is higher.. yes, but this one was going to be adventure bike, so little
More relaxed position would not be harmful.
Many of the current incoming gravel bikes also comes today with longer
Reach, in my case : they used to be 370-380mm and are now close to 400 in some
Bikes. Idea behind ... Use shorter stem to get right behavior.
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I think this looks good..
And with drob bars maybe even better
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Btw.. do we have any other information about the coming frame ?
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I think this looks good..
And with drob bars maybe even better
It looks really not bad. I like that the space between the down tube and the front tire is not so huge like on BXT-MTB-066 frame. It is interesting if this rigid fork is 29, 27,5 or gravel size?
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Btw.. do we have any other information about the coming frame ?
No more info unfortunately, but there is a guy from Spcycle on this forum. Will try to ask him.
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29" fork at least looks like it
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Until a Chiner company manufactures a gravel frame more like the Salsa Cutthroat, and fits 55mm/2.3 tires I will continue to use my Spcycle SP-M05 as my bikepacking work horse. It is so easy to reconfigure between flat bars, or "H" bars or to put on a 100mm travel front fork, I run a dropper post, and I can readily install racks and other gear mounting features. (Plus, its baseline weight is close to a Kg less than my 6 year old Seraph framed gravel bike - choice of tires and wheels dependent.)
I've posted the attached pic in other threads. This is how this bike spends a lot of its time these days.
Edit: I am also an advocate of a frame geometry that can run a 100mm travel suspension fork. That really puts the frame back into a 29er hardtail category, but I never liked it when I tried a short travel gravel suspension fork on my gravel bike, all it did was add weight versus the suspension I expected.
OTOH, running 2.0 to 2.2 tires on this rig, and loaded for camping, I have yet to wish I was running the front suspension fork on a long trip. The bigger tires are so much more comfortable on long rough descents versus the 42s I run on my gravel bike. On long descents, I descend so much faster than my gravel bike friends.
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Good news! :D Guys from Seraph and Spcycle from AliExpress wrote me that they will develop a new gravel frame for 700x55 tires in 2026! 700x55 is the same as 29x2.1, so it will be a good option for those who want to ride gravel bike on 29x2.1 Schwalbe Thunder Burt tires. Hope those frames will have affordable prices :)
I just want a proper gravel bike with good 55mm clearance. Something like an Allied Able or Enve Mog.
In Frame Storage, light weight, good clearance, with a racier geometry.
The new Seka is nice, but way over priced for a Chinese frame.
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I wonder what other features Seraph and Spcycle will consider on this wide-tire frame. As most of us know, as you go to larger tires, you need to gain more clearance for the chain moving past the tire in its lowest gear. This often drives a wider bottom bracket shell. BSA73 or BB92 (or other wider standard). Then if you go with the wider front chain-line, then you might as well go with a boost rear hub. 148mm. I'd really like to see these features. Better standardization with more common MTB wheels, bottom brackets and crank-sets.
I could go either way regarding the front triangle, top tube being closer to compact geometry, seat post tube angle, BB drop/location being closer to gravel frame geometry.
I would really love it if this frame could handle a 100mm front susp. fork, and be geometry corrected for a 29er fork with 415/420 blades.
Do they go with 34 mm bolt spacing of the post mount brake standard, or the 74mm flat mount. (I prefer 74mm flat mount because I am a heavy rider these days and I want larger brakes with at least 180 rotors, versus the standard 2 piston calipers matched to most gravel brake/shifter sets.)
Lots of detail for them to consider, as gravel bikes and 29er hardtails converge.
I guess it comes down to usage. Will this be a race oriented gravel frame intended for primarily asphalt and gravel roads, or an all-terrain type bike where the rider will ride on gravel and single-track. (For me, my current gravel bike with 42mm tires works really well for most of the gravel grinders I ride, but for some reason many of my gravel rides always seem to end up on a bunch of challenging off-road terrain where I really want/need wider more-forgiving grippy rough surface tires.
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I just want a proper gravel bike with good 55mm clearance. Something like an Allied Able or Enve Mog.
In Frame Storage, light weight, good clearance, with a racier geometry.
The new Seka is nice, but way over priced for a Chinese frame.
I designed one myself with 700x58 clearance for 48T chainrings out of titanium. It will arrive with the next two weeks.
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Plenty of modern gravel frames have proven that wider chainlines are not necessary. Hell, the Ari Shafer has official clearance for a 52T chainring at 47.5mm chainline with 2.25" tires and short chainstays (428 in a size S for example).
There is no need for boost, and it's nice to be able to run road cranksets.
As for chinese frames with big clearance, there is always the Yeoleo G21. But aside from that, most of the frames currently popular on this forum will take a 2.1" Thunder Burt without too much trouble. Hopefully more will come soon.
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Plenty of modern gravel frames have proven that wider chainlines are not necessary. Hell, the Ari Shafer has official clearance for a 52T chainring at 47.5mm chainline with 2.25" tires and short chainstays (428 in a size S for example).
There is no need for boost, and it's nice to be able to run road cranksets.
As for chinese frames with big clearance, there is always the Yeoleo G21. But aside from that, most of the frames currently popular on this forum will take a 2.1" Thunder Burt without too much trouble. Hopefully more will come soon.
Yoeleo G21 is a bit expensive. Hope new and affordable chinese carbon gravel frames for 700x55 tires will come in 2026 :)
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Yoeleo G21 is a bit expensive. Hope new and affordable chinese carbon gravel frames for 700x55 tires will come in 2026 :)
Personally, I wont purchase a frame with a "D" shaped seat post. I require a dropper post. I have become addicted to them on all of the high speed descents I ride on rough downhills.
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Yoeleo G21 is a bit expensive. Hope new and affordable chinese carbon gravel frames for 700x55 tires will come in 2026 :)
Hi,
I'm in the market for the same as you describe - I agree with your view on the Yoeleo G21, but I have not managed to find anything that claims at least 53 mm clearance. Have you set your hopes for 2026?
I'm pretty close to pushing the button on a Mondince FM316, but I would still like a bit more clearance, but I have a race in April 2026 which I need an upgrade for (currently using at Trek Boone for gravel).
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yoeleo g21 has a clearance of 53mm (it says on their website)
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yoeleo g21 has a clearance of 53mm (it says on their website)
Yes, but it’s not available in most sizes
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I wonder if we'll see this frameset sold through Carbonda or TanTan or the like this spring. The Obed Boundary is a Carbonda CFR-696 frameset so it is plausible, unless Obed is now licensing the mold and not strictly customizing open molds framesets.
https://obedbikes.com/collections/mmr/products/obed-mmr-adventure-gravel-frameset
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I bought one for testing...
Cheap frame.
Looks good to me.
On the picture, tyres are 29 x 2.4"
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I bought one for testing...
Cheap frame.
Looks good to me.
On the picture, tyres are 29 x 2.4"
It looks interesting. Let us know how it rides when you complete the build.
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By the way, I've got good news from Spcycle. They wrote that they are going to develop gravel frameset for 700x57 tires, so it will probably fit the most popular "gravel" tire - Schwalbe Thunder Burt 29x2,2 :D
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By the way, I've got good news from Spcycle. They wrote that they are going to develop gravel frameset for 700x57 tires, so it will probably fit the most popular "gravel" tire - Schwalbe Thunder Burt 29x2,2 :D
Did they give any timeline?
Talked to TanTan/Seraph today and they're sticking to 50mm max. No new frames with more clearance on the way
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I saw on IG kind of "spoiler" propably of that frame with black Shwalbe Addix Thunder Burt 29x2.25". Geometry looks like SP-G026, but updated fork and headtube that looks more areo.
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In the Mondince frame thread, someone posted that they're working on a new fork. 420mm A-C, 50/55mm flip chip, and clears up to 700x57mm/29x2.25''. So that's probably it. Rear will likely stay at 50mm max though
Btw, can you drop the link to that IG?
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https://raccooncycles.com/ (https://raccooncycles.com/)
Raccon cycles is Polish brand from Rzeszow city, Poland. They order frames from China partners. I know owner from university times, he propably doesn't remember me 😃 (Greetings to you P... if you read this!)
https://imgur.com/a/bVAUSTK (https://imgur.com/a/bVAUSTK)
https://imgur.com/a/pJxVhJj (https://imgur.com/a/pJxVhJj)
BTW. I saw a guy who puts 700x60mm tires to Ari Shafter 3.0.
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https://raccooncycles.com/ (https://raccooncycles.com/)
Raccon cycles is Polish brand from Rzeszow city, Poland. They order frames from China partners. I know owner from university times, he propably doesn't remember me 😃 (Greetings to you P... if you read this!)
https://imgur.com/a/bVAUSTK (https://imgur.com/a/bVAUSTK)
https://imgur.com/a/pJxVhJj (https://imgur.com/a/pJxVhJj)
BTW. I saw a guy who puts 700x60mm tires to Ari Shafter 3.0.
Ah :) Znam i śledzę tę markę i znam Przemka. Dzisiaj ma pokazywać nową ramę.
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As mentioned by others on this forum, I think we’re still at a point where the only practical way to run >2.2" tires on a gravel bike is by using an MTB frameset with a rigid fork.
Here’s my current build: a BXT MTB-066 frame paired with a Ryet fork. Since I do beach racing, my main requirement was to fit 60mm G-One Speed tires. I upgraded from an Airwolf YFM026 (size XL) to this frame in size L for a shorter reach (as reach and stack become more aggressive with a rigid fork if its shorter than a typical MTB suspension fork), more progressive geometry, T47 BB, and the ability to fully internally route the cables.
I’m very happy with how the build turned out—it’s a true do-it-all gravel bike with huge tire clearance. For summer, I swap to a set of 2.35" Thunder Burt tires. The only real downside, as with many MTB frames, is the limited chainring size: with Boost spacing, the largest I can fit is a 40T (the Airwolf was exceptional in that sense with a dropped chainstay and could fit 46T).
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Ah :) Znam i śledzę tę markę i znam Przemka. Dzisiaj ma pokazywać nową ramę.
The world is small ;)
TAVELO show today on their instagram new areo frame - GROW with tire clearance: 60 / 55 mm.
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The world is small ;)
TAVELO show today on their instagram new areo frame - GROW with tire clearance: 60 / 55 mm.
Seems to be 55/50?
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Mine is getting there..
Soon finished.
1x12 grx 11-51 cassette.
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Seems to be 55/50?
Yes, only 55/50mm. The small, white font blended in with the background photo. Sorry for the confusion.
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As for Tavelo—that frame looks just like the new Wilier Rave. That one is rated for 52mm, but you can easily fit 2.2" tires in there.
New Raccoon frame looks like Winspace G3
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Did they give any timeline?
Talked to TanTan/Seraph today and they're sticking to 50mm max. No new frames with more clearance on the way
They answered "There is no exact time yet" :(
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As mentioned by others on this forum, I think we’re still at a point where the only practical way to run >2.2" tires on a gravel bike is by using an MTB frameset with a rigid fork.
Here’s my current build: a BXT MTB-066 frame paired with a Ryet fork. Since I do beach racing, my main requirement was to fit 60mm G-One Speed tires. I upgraded from an Airwolf YFM026 (size XL) to this frame in size L for a shorter reach (as reach and stack become more aggressive with a rigid fork if its shorter than a typical MTB suspension fork), more progressive geometry, T47 BB, and the ability to fully internally route the cables.
I’m very happy with how the build turned out—it’s a true do-it-all gravel bike with huge tire clearance. For summer, I swap to a set of 2.35" Thunder Burt tires. The only real downside, as with many MTB frames, is the limited chainring size: with Boost spacing, the largest I can fit is a 40T (the Airwolf was exceptional in that sense with a dropped chainstay and could fit 46T).
It looks cool in size L! What is the weight of your bike?
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Mine is getting there..
Soon finished.
1x12 grx 11-51 cassette.
Thank you for the photo! I like the way you decorated it with what you have written on it! ;)
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Gravel: not too serious ... 8)
That's how I like it
That's why I just put some random text to my bike .
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9,2kg without pedals.
Aluminum handlebars
Alu stem
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No specifically a frame but demand for a fork: has anyone a recommendation for a fork with internal cable routing and 700x58 clearance?
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No specifically a frame but demand for a fork: has anyone a recommendation for a fork with internal cable routing and 700x58 clearance?
A fork that fits a 58mm 700C tire, will have to have fork blade lengths like a standard 700C gravel fork. Assuming you want to maintain your frames original frame's relative geometry. To fit a 58 tire on a gravel bike that fits a regular geometry 700C fork, they have to engineer the fork crown that is wider and has a lower profile, otherwise the fork becomes longer like rigid carbon forks that are sold for 29er hardtails. I am attaching a picture that shows several fork geometries.
I believe that 700C gravel forks have axle to crown lengths in the range of 400mm to 410mm.
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Thank you. The one in the bottom left looks good. Does it have fully internal routing and where can I source it? Background is that on my custom frame the delivered fork has no hole for the fully internal routing.
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Thank you. The one in the bottom left looks good. Does it have fully internal routing and where can I source it? Background is that on my custom frame the delivered fork has no hole for the fully internal routing.
The Aveiro you were inspired by comes with these options:
https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Adventure-Bikepacking-Fork-SC-ADV09-_p375.html
https://dedaelementi.com/gera-curvy
I'd go with the Deda personally if it fits your frame.
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Yeah the Deda does not fit with my handlebar because of the D shape steerer tube and the specific top cap. I also found the Seido MGV fork and also one from Winow Sports on AliX with claimed 700x60 clearance.
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The Aveiro you were inspired by comes with these options:
https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Adventure-Bikepacking-Fork-SC-ADV09-_p375.html
https://dedaelementi.com/gera-curvy
I'd go with the Deda personally if it fits your frame.
Update on the Speeder: they do not sell this fork to my country
EDIT: After a little bit of discussion I could buy the fork. Thanks for the hint.
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First test... I like it
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The new Raccoon is finally out!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DTz6do7CPWt/?igsh=MTU0dDE4MGE1ODJwNw==
53-55mm tires should fit no problem, apparently even 60mm is doable. Curious if it's a catalogue frame or something custom-made.
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It looks cool in size L! What is the weight of your bike?
Total weight is 8.7kg with bottle cages and pedals!
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The new Raccoon is finally out!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DTz6do7CPWt/?igsh=MTU0dDE4MGE1ODJwNw==
53-55mm tires should fit no problem, apparently even 60mm is doable. Curious if it's a catalogue frame or something custom-made.
well their entire line up is from catalogue no? wonder where this one comes from :eyes
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well their entire line up is from catalogue no? wonder where this one comes from :eyes
Its look like Winspace G3
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Agree that it looks like a G3 - they're likely just quoting clearance with the ISO standard of 4mm for road applications rather than the off-road standard of 6mm.
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As mentioned by others on this forum, I think we’re still at a point where the only practical way to run >2.2" tires on a gravel bike is by using an MTB frameset with a rigid fork.
Here’s my current build: a BXT MTB-066 frame paired with a Ryet fork. Since I do beach racing, my main requirement was to fit 60mm G-One Speed tires. I upgraded from an Airwolf YFM026 (size XL) to this frame in size L for a shorter reach (as reach and stack become more aggressive with a rigid fork if its shorter than a typical MTB suspension fork), more progressive geometry, T47 BB, and the ability to fully internally route the cables.
Nice bike! So what is your fork length? The MTB-066 was designed for 506mm fork. Have you done the math and know your actual steering and seat tube angle?
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Nice bike! So what is your fork length? The MTB-066 was designed for 506mm fork. Have you done the math and know your actual steering and seat tube angle?
My fork is 480mm with a 52mm offset. The increase in reach isn’t too bad, and I prefer the steeper seat tube angle for a more aero position. The head angle feels fine too—the original was already pretty slack.
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Spcycle just made a model of their new gravel frameset for 700x57 (29x2,25) tires. It resembles the geometry of the new Mondince gravel bike with the same tire clearance. It is said in this article that this frame will be shown in May 2026.
https://velo.gravelo.ru/2026/04/22/spcycle-g028/
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@ains, thanks for sharing!
Mondince also announced new frames with 57mm tires clearance, see separate thread here in the forum.
I expect there'll be a vast amount of MTB tire gravel frames available end of the year.
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Spcycle just made a model of their new gravel frameset for 700x57 (29x2,25) tires. It resembles the geometry of the new Mondince gravel bike with the same tire clearance. It is said in this article that this frame will be shown in May 2026.
https://velo.gravelo.ru/2026/04/22/spcycle-g028/
Thanks, I think this needs its own thread.
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Thanks, I think this needs its own thread.
It has it's own thread now ;-)
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@ains, thanks for sharing!
Mondince also announced new frames with 57mm tires clearance, see separate thread here in the forum.
I expect there'll be a vast amount of MTB tire gravel frames available end of the year.
You are welcome! Thanks for the info about Mondince. Hope the price of this new Spcycle frame and other similar frames will drop by the end of the year. They will start selling new Spcycle frameset with the price around 550$. Hope the price will drop to 350$ by the end of the year on Aliexpress.