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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: toxin on December 24, 2025, 11:14:06 PM
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A little back I posted some of my frame designs in the XM Carbon Speed Race Frame - The wish list (https://chinertown.comindex.phptopic,6481.0.html). Some of you were interested in seeing more. I don't want to clog the forum with what is, ultimately, off-topic content. None of these designs are likely to become reality. So I've created a simple Wordpress blog (https://toxin6.wordpress.com). I'm using the free plan so it's going to be pretty bare-bones, probably will see some minor changes too.
I'm going to be posting my bike designs there, along with reasoning behind certain features. There are already posts about the two designs I posted on Chinertown, the second one includes some CFD. Expect a post about V3 of this design sometime in the next 48 hrs. I'm doing this in my spare time and not expecting any monetary return, so updates will be random, as projects are completed. I've set it so that anyone can comment with or without an account, hoping it can stay that way. Feel free to ask anything there. Won't be responding here so as to not give an off-topic thread extra momentum.
Some pics of V3 below.
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I would happily ride this 10/10.
Great job mate!
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Wouldn’t the front down tune be pretty far from the tires with that design?
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Wouldn’t the front down tune be pretty far from the tires with that design?
I believe that's a good thing aerodynamically.
Toxin.
Looks great! I'd be in for one:-)
Here's a questions... Can you build in some sort of integrated tool chest like gravel bikes when you get funding for this :-)? It's a pain in the arse getting a beautiful bike and then putting on a sale pack that spoils the lines, lolz.
Shortest pump I've found that's any good is the BBB double shot mini at 120x40mm, and I think with that amount of space again you could include a mini ratchet and spare tube.
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OK I said I wouldn't post in here again, but I will break that promise to explicitly state that this is not development of an actual product. That's why I say this is technically an off-topic thread. I have zero intentions of doing the legwork for getting this made myself. There are no business ambitions in this project. If a brand approaches me to participate in a project, that's a different story, but I'd say the likelihood of that is slim to none and not really what I'm aiming for. I am doing this to learn and because I enjoy it. It does feel kinda conflicting that I both want to share my work and learnings with others but also giving out potentially valuable work out for free, but I'll get over it.
If I were to make a frame I wouldn't want to build internal frame storage, but I'd 100% design a several different Timemachine Road and Triathlon-esque storage solutions and if they weren't made available for sale, I'd share the .stl files publicly.
Also V3 post is up now.
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I have mad props for Toxin.
On the surface he might rub a few people the wrong way with his choice of words. But personally I always understood any form of bluntness was rooted in industry knowledge and just an overall passion and pragmatic approach to bikes. Similar to Serge. Never malicious. Which is what makes particular forum attractive.
It's why I don't engage in online beef or arguments especially in this forum. There's always something positive and informative to take away. Thanks bro.
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I think it’s a fascinating project and I think a t some point a brand will contact you, so be ready :).
Is the Geo chart the same as it was before? If you really don’t want to interact on your project just ignore.
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Thank you Toxin.
Hope that a collaboration invite happens, I would definitely be in line for one.