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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: Eddy_Twerckx on February 06, 2026, 10:48:37 AM
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Which Chinese bike is the closest to an ENVE Fray? Road bike with slightly relaxed geo but not full on endurance. Downtube storage is a must. Chainstay no longer than 420. And must clear 40s. Bonus points for round seatpost and UDH.
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You in luck - Lightcarbon: LCR018-D almost identical copy of Fray.
Relaxed geo but not full endurance, storage, chainstays 415, 40s, and UDH. Seatpost NOT round
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I kinda disagree : the LIGHTCARBON looks much more aero. More aggressive.
Identical in terms of specs as it fits 40c tires apparently
Maybe a bit heavier than the FRAY but… for 1/4th of the price it is a no brainer
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From a geometry standpoint they’re basically identical in 52 and 54, can’t be bothered to check the other sizes.
The 18D looks a little lower but you need to add an 8mm spacer so stack is within MMs of each other
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I kinda disagree : the LIGHTCARBON looks much more aero. More aggressive.
Identical in terms of specs as it fits 40c tires apparently
Maybe a bit heavier than the FRAY but… for 1/4th of the price it is a no brainer
Yea, I actually don't like the aero aggressive look. If it had a round seatpost, that would be a big positive and I'd probably like the Lightcarbon more. But apart from price (which is not to be understated), I don't see why you would choose the LC over the Fray. Again, the price is a big part and should be part of the decision. It's just not part of my decision so there's nothing really that sets it apart from the Fray.
I guess put another way, if the price is the only differentiating factor, I'll go with the Fray. I was just hoping for a round seatpost.
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+1 on the LCR018-D, but if thats not your jam, check out the INCOLOR Voyager
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+1 on the LCR018-D, but if thats not your jam, check out the INCOLOR Voyager
Funnily enough, that was the other bike that is almost perfect, and probably the best bet. The big downside is lack of frame storage and sizing. I could probably make the 57 work but it's a little small for me. Geometry looks great though, just wish they had 1 size bigger.
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ELves Eglats ARX is almost the same geometry.
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Based on your criteria, the Voyager is probably your best bet. I am seriously contemplating building one up later this year. Just need to determine my budget.