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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Cyclocross Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: FLXer88 on March 28, 2026, 09:03:05 PM

Title: “Inspired by” gravel/CX frames from TT/Seraph?
Post by: FLXer88 on March 28, 2026, 09:03:05 PM

Anyone know if TT/Seraph offers a frameset that is geometrically the same as a western known branded frame? A Diverge or Crux clone would be ideal but open to others.. Checkpoint, Checkmate, Grail, Grizl, etc..

Reason for a clone: Comfort/fit. I can get fit locally for said frame set and then build up a chiner frame based on those measurements. I ride a 54cm, but have no idea on stem, reach, cranks, etc.. I plan to go integrated cockpit and know you only get one shot. Comfort is super important to me.

Reason for TT/Seraph: Shipment savings. I plan to also purchase and build up their X68 frame set. If I can save on shipping by buying both at the same time, that’s likely the route I’ll go.

Edit: I have played around with BikeInsights and compared different frames and geometries but am having a hard time finding a match for their gravel frames.

Title: Re: “Inspired by” gravel/CX frames from TT/Seraph?
Post by: fhill on March 29, 2026, 03:10:31 AM

If you didn't fully commit to the X68, you could take the R088 from Sp-Cycle, basically the X68/SL8 geometry without the aero sniffer.

Sp-Cycle has a gravel frame that is inspired by Canyons Grail, the G068/69. That would be my way of going in your situation, if I wanted to save on the shipping.

Disclaimer: I ride a X68 and a G069

Title: Re: “Inspired by” gravel/CX frames from TT/Seraph?
Post by: FLXer88 on March 29, 2026, 07:54:37 AM

Quote from: fhill on March 29, 2026, 03:10:31 AM

If you didn't fully commit to the X68, you could take the R088 from Sp-Cycle, basically the X68/SL8 geometry without the aero sniffer.

Sp-Cycle has a gravel frame that is inspired by Canyons Grail, the G068/69. That would be my way of going in your situation, if I wanted to save on the shipping.

Disclaimer: I ride a X68 and a G069

Thanks. I saw your posts on the long X68 thread. 90 days, right? How would you compare the quality and experience of Sp-cycle to TT/Seraph?

Title: Re: “Inspired by” gravel/CX frames from TT/Seraph?
Post by: fhill on April 02, 2026, 03:46:58 AM

Quote from: FLXer88 on March 29, 2026, 07:54:37 AM

Thanks. I saw your posts on the long X68 thread. 90 days, right? How would you compare the quality and experience of Sp-cycle to TT/Seraph?

I'd say SP-Cycle has the slightly better quality. Keep in mind, TanTan is not the manufacturer of the X68, I've got a replacement frame due to some issues, the replacement frame is way inferior quality to the first frame