Jack does it again. They are cranking out new designs. He just sent me a video of their new aero gravel frame with 57mm of tire clearance. He said it will be available in 10 days and is going to send me the geo a little later. When he does, I'll post it.
Cool! Looks like new Tan Tan frame.
I asked him whether we may get FM316 geo frame with 55+ clearance and the answer was clear no :(
Too bad as I really wanted the new geometry but did not want to compromise on the clearance.
Quote from: AngryBear on May 28, 2026, 12:28:29 PM
Jack does it again. They are cranking out new designs. He just sent me a video of their new aero gravel frame with 57mm of tire clearance. He said it will be available in 10 days and is going to send me the geo a little later. When he does, I'll post it.
Any news on the geo? :D
Here is the geochart of all sizes.
Quote from: trogger78 on June 01, 2026, 07:45:20 AM
Here is the geochart of all sizes.
Also got this from Jack, not sure what's happening with the reach numbers though, he wanted to check in with the designers.
I've been debating for ages which frame I should go with. I kept wavering between the GR201 and the FM336. The geometry on the FM336 is perfect—aside from the tire clearance. But the FM366 combines the best of both worlds. I'm curious to see when it will become available.
Quote from: xcelrec on June 01, 2026, 07:48:47 AM
Also got this from Jack, not sure what's happening with the reach numbers though, he wanted to check in with the designers.
yes. that was my thought too. in size 540 the reach could be a bit to short.
And it seems that it have also the Flip Chip (50/55mm Rake) in the front like the FM326 has.
I like that frame very much so far. Will be intresting about the correct reach. could be around 2cm longer I think.
Quote from: trogger78 on June 01, 2026, 07:57:19 AM
And it seems that it have also the Flip Chip (50/55mm Rake) in the front like the FM326 has.
I like that frame very much so far. Will be intresting about the correct reach. could be around 2cm longer I think.
I'm between 356 and the 366, but yeah for a aero gravel the reach is even shorter than 356 which is the adventure / more upright frame. I assume the numbers aren't correct. If they are a little longer than 356 I'll probably go for this though. 😄
Those might be the shortest reaches I've ever seen for a drop bar bike. Definitely not a bike for the masses
Those Reach number can't be right, looking at the other geo numbers...
The frame in the videos is a 540 frameset as Jack wrote me.
Does the toptube looks short in comparison to the rest of the frame? I think so. What do you guys think about it?
The toe overlap would be a concern, particularly in the bigger sizes.
Quote from: trogger78 on June 01, 2026, 07:51:26 AM
I've been debating for ages which frame I should go with. I kept wavering between the GR201 and the FM336. The geometry on the FM336 is perfect—aside from the tire clearance. But the FM366 combines the best of both worlds. I'm curious to see when it will become available.
For what it's worth, I've got a 296 and 336. I love the 296 so far.
Quote from: trogger78 on June 01, 2026, 07:45:20 AM
Here is the geochart of all sizes.
Short and high. No good for me.
Absolutely atrocious geometry compared to the inspired FM316. If only it had the tyre clearance, it would be the perfect gravel bike...
I just reached out to TanTan because they postetd two frames with 57mm tyre clearence, which were identical to those here. But they wrote me that their frame will be different to the FM366. But they wont send me the geochart for theirs.
Geometry chart that was posted last page is actually what the frame is supposed to look like. At least that what the designers said that got back to whoever is doing the communications via WhatsApp. No clue for what kind of rider this is designed with reach numbers like this. Guess not for me lol. 😅
Now on the website
https://www.mondincecycle.com/product/china-new-released-max-57mm-tire-carbon-aero-gravel-bike-frame-fm366#size-chart
I can't make any sense out of those Reach numbers... :o
For my M size, I'd need a 130mm or 140mm stem, depending on the handlebar reach! ???
Why is there no fm356 on the website yet?
Quote from: ProtonClimber on June 11, 2026, 04:42:58 PM
Why is there no fm356 on the website yet?
Still in prototyping phase.
Quote from: Jarkko2410 on June 11, 2026, 11:40:20 AM
Now on the website
https://www.mondincecycle.com/product/china-new-released-max-57mm-tire-carbon-aero-gravel-bike-frame-fm366#size-chart
This one already has 5 positive reviews, all dated from yesterday, June 11! ::)
Taken from the frame description that product page:
QuoteThe geometry is purpose-built for adventure: a sloping top tube (B) and extended reach (M) provide a stable, confident riding position, ...
Extended reach?!? ??? ??? ???
Eventually, someone at Mondince will wake up and realize that increasing reach by 1mm for sizes XS through L wasn't what they intended to do. (Okay, technically the increase is 2mm for size L.)
The geometry chart is clearly wrong but for whatever reason they insisted on publishing it anyways.
(Reach size XS / S / M / L: 363 / 364 / 365 / 367mm)
I just can't get my head around those geometry charts. Obviously, the geometry is wrong and that isn't the reach. But I don't think they understand how important getting that right is. I mean the XMCS aero gravel bike must fit more than a 44t front ring but that's what everyone thinks right now and that will have cost them hundreds of preorders.
There is so much good coming from OEMs in china but these things really demonstrate that the market just isn't mature and you still need to be a really canny buyer to make the most of it. Sometimes they strike gold e.g. the GR201 (of many sorts).
Sometimes they don't know what shape a bike should be.
I'm coming back to check the forum almost daily to see if one of the new 57mm tire clearance frames has an updated geometry chart because part of me apparently refuses to accept that the geometry charts are correct. Uber short reach here, super high BB there,... they all seem to have a flaw at least for what I (and I'd say the majority of riders) am looking for. The only ones so far that get close are the XMCS aero gravel (but front chainring clearance is a concern and price is more than I'd expect for a factory direct chinese frame, even if more premium) and the SP cycle G028 (but it's SP cycles and QC concerns are real ((look at that fork that was posted on that thread)).
I'm starting to believe that I'm the problem here.
Quote from: RiP on June 12, 2026, 02:25:24 AM
This one already has 5 positive reviews, all dated from yesterday, June 11! ::)
yeah they're definitely faking the reviews. no one could have built up an FM366 that fast, let alone determined it "saved them 12 watts" lol. mondince man, wtf
Correct me if I'm wrong but it does have an AERO SEATPOST right?
Not the round 27.2
So in that regard it is different from SPCYCLE's 57mm tire clearance Gravel frame, right?
Also the « wind eye » thingy but anyway at 1050g claimed and with edgy aero features, it might be the sexiest 57mm tire clearance Gravel frame out there
Quote from: Samuel BMR on June 15, 2026, 05:16:49 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but it does have an AERO SEATPOST right?
Not the round 27.2
So in that regard it is different from SPCYCLE's 57mm tire clearance Gravel frame, right?
Also the « wind eye » thingy but anyway at 1050g claimed and with edgy aero features, it might be the sexiest 57mm tire clearance Gravel frame out there
From the product specs on their product webpage:
QuoteSeatpost: D Type, 7*7mm/7*9mm Compatiable
So, yeah, the seatpost is supposed to have an aero, D shape profile and it's not a round 27,2mm regular one.
This frame looks good, but those Reach numbers are really awkward... :-\
I just heard from Jack that they are changing the geo. He is going to send me the chart as soon as it is available and I'll post.
a couple notes:
1. needs updated geo chart lmao
2. needs specs for chainring clearance with 47.5mm chainlines
3. all of the photos look like they have no bottle cage/rack bolts drilled - they absolutely need some top tube bag bolts here
It seems like they are open to suggestions, what is the perfect geometry?
Quote from: AngryBear on June 18, 2026, 12:40:19 AM
It seems like they are open to suggestions, what is the perfect geometry?
what plausible measurements they have there are fine (bb drop etc) but the reach numbers are just physically impossible for the bike sizing, the numbers on the the geo chart are simply incorrect
I'd want something in the range of
XS 470
Small 480
Medium 490
Large 500
Etc.
That probably allows more casual riders to size down and still keep sufficient stack, for some people to run shorter stems if they prefer that handling, and for people to get high and forwards if they want to race it.
I have ordered a Cima GR but I'm waiting for these three new cheap 57mm frames to mature to order a new frame for my girlfriend's bike. The SPCycle had the better geometry of the two out before this
just try to get as close to an enve mog geometry as possible while still allowing for 50t chainring clearance with reasonable chainline
Quote from: AngryBear on June 18, 2026, 12:40:19 AM
It seems like they are open to suggestions, what is the perfect geometry?
Apparently this is the new geometry. :D
Quote from: xcelrec on June 18, 2026, 06:02:10 AM
Apparently this is the new geometry. :D
The reach now is very similar to the FM336 so I think this is an upgrade definitely.
Much better!
And what are the HANDLEBARS options with Mondice?
You can't find ANY on their website
Quote from: xcelrec on June 18, 2026, 06:02:10 AM
Apparently this is the new geometry. :D
What do you guys think about the 70 degrees headtube angle? Would have liked it maybe a bit steeper, or do you think the 1 degree doesn't matter that much?
Quote from: xcelrec on June 18, 2026, 06:02:10 AM
Apparently this is the new geometry. :D
This is more like it!
But this begs the question, since the frame already had a mold and there are pictures of a finished one, does this mean that it was just the old geo chart that was wrong and the frame had the geo figures from this new chart, or does that frame feature the strange geo from the 1st chart???
Quote from: RiP on June 18, 2026, 08:21:57 AM
This is more like it!
But this begs the question, since the frame already had a mold and there are pictures of a finished one, does this mean that it was just the old geo chart that was wrong and the frame had the geo figures from this new chart, or does that frame feature the strange geo from the 1st chart???
the old geo chart plainly didn't reflect reality, the top tube and seatpost angle numbers just obviously didn't add up to produce the listed reach
Quote from: adrpos on June 18, 2026, 02:52:19 PM
the old geo chart plainly didn't reflect reality, the top tube and seatpost angle numbers just obviously didn't add up to produce the listed reach
Might be, I was told regardless that they'll have to make a new mould. Seems like they also have an integrated handlebar with rise.
This is their normal integrated gravel cockpit. Hopefully getting some info later about the other one.
184cm with an ~86cm inseam.
I generally take a L size frame. This would be an M I think.
Anyone updated bike insights?
Quote from: xcelrec on June 18, 2026, 06:02:10 AM
Apparently this is the new geometry. :D
I think the reach in size "L" is still off. It should be something like 398 mm.
The new geometry looks really good to me.
The early geometries didn't make any sense for me. But now I regret ordering the spcycle g028 recently.
Maybe I should order a fm366 as well and choose the one with better manufacturing quality.
Any idea when this new geometry frame will be released? Could take a while if they need te make a new mould and do testing again?
Quote from: xcelrec on June 18, 2026, 06:17:43 PM
Might be, I was told regardless that they'll have to make a new mould. Seems like they also have an integrated handlebar with rise.
This is their normal integrated gravel cockpit. Hopefully getting some info later about the other one.
Thanks! It is too wide. For an AERO GRAVEL HANDLEBARS we need it to start at 36cm in the tops.
And then it flares down to 40-42
Hopefully the new riser one you mention has narrower options.
52T max chainring
Quote from: adrpos on June 18, 2026, 02:52:19 PM
the old geo chart plainly didn't reflect reality, the top tube and seatpost angle numbers just obviously didn't add up to produce the listed reach
So, do you guys think that this frame pictured at their product page (https://www.mondincecycle.com/product/china-new-released-max-57mm-tire-carbon-aero-gravel-bike-frame-fm366) reflects that strange first geometry chart?
(https://www.mondincecycle.com/uploads/20260611/Premium-Carbon-Gravel-Frame.webp)
???
Quote from: xcelrec on June 18, 2026, 06:17:43 PM
Might be, I was told regardless that they'll have to make a new mould. Seems like they also have an integrated handlebar with rise.
This is their normal integrated gravel cockpit. Hopefully getting some info later about the other one.
I did not find any handelbars on the Mondince web site. do you have any link? What is the price of the gravel cockpit?
has anyone asked for the price and availability date? This frame looks very promising
Quote from: mirek100 on June 19, 2026, 04:28:19 AM
I did not find any handelbars on the Mondince web site. do you have any link? What is the price of the gravel cockpit?
No I don't have a link, guess you gotta contact them directly via. email / whatsapp. Those that I posted seem to be 75 euro. The riser bar is still in testing. Hope to get some info there soon since I'll probably take fm366 over 356 then. :D
Quote from: glos_ludu on June 19, 2026, 06:02:31 AM
has anyone asked for the price and availability date? This frame looks very promising
My info is - lead time ~30 days, 527 euro for frame, fork, seatpost, axles, headset, bag.
Yup, I heard the same...$605usd and 30 days lead time
Quote from: AngryBear on June 19, 2026, 02:50:32 AM
52T max chainring
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQuupIk4U-owbmIW3sukGMbL1UhnHLXuE7MZlX9OePAB5886HrzX5dNbzmu&s=10)
following the XMCS flop with 46t chainring, im suddenly interested in this option. but some of the quality from this brand in other posts...
Quote from: svedkoko on June 20, 2026, 04:23:08 AM
following the XMCS flop with 46t chainring, im suddenly interested in this option. but some of the quality from this brand in other posts...
Really? I thought MONDICE were reliable...?!
Quote from: AngryBear on June 19, 2026, 07:30:06 AM
Yup, I heard the same...$605usd and 30 days lead time
They told me 25 days yesterday and today it became 50 days.. :o
Quote from: svedkoko on June 20, 2026, 04:23:08 AM
following the XMCS flop with 46t chainring, im suddenly interested in this option. but some of the quality from this brand in other posts...
I thought XMCS did not confirm the max chainring yet?
FM366 isn't listed on the website anymore. You can still find it when using the search function but the page doesn't exist when you click on it. Anyone knows what's up? Have they decided not to release it?
Edit: Got the answer myself from them: ,, Yes, we did not list for now. We will release when we have stock in two months"
Definitely looking forward to seeing these. Looks like a nice combo of some the aero qualities of the FM316 with the tire clearance of the 346. And, kind of splitting the difference re: geometry.
JAck told me today, that it will took about two more months untill the frame gets ready for order.
Quote from: trogger78 on July 10, 2026, 03:38:36 AM
JAck told me today, that it will took about two more months untill the frame gets ready for order.
Take your time, Jack. This is the only competitor to the XMCS Aero Gravel bike. I hope they'll sort the aero integrated handlebars thing out. Ty ry have to make one specifically for this Aero Gravel frame like Lightcarbon & XMCS did
I have imported the latest geo to Bike Insights as I wanted to visually compare it to my current bike. Here's the link if anyone wants to double-check: https://bikeinsights.com/bikes/6a59ff78d09bc0001adeabda-mondince-fm366 (https://bikeinsights.com/bikes/6a59ff78d09bc0001adeabda-mondince-fm366)
FM366 is now being listed in the site: https://www.mondincecycle.com/product/china-new-released-max-57mm-tire-carbon-aero-gravel-bike-frame-fm366.
Got in touch with Mondince and they say it's a 'pre-order'. The frames would be ready in ~20 days.
Quote from: anqry on July 28, 2026, 11:08:36 AM
FM366 is now being listed in the site: https://www.mondincecycle.com/product/china-new-released-max-57mm-tire-carbon-aero-gravel-bike-frame-fm366.
Got in touch with Mondince and they say it's a 'pre-order'. The frames would be ready in ~20 days.
Do you know about the final price and sizes available now?
Quote from: RiP on July 28, 2026, 11:10:36 AM
Do you know about the final price and sizes available now?
Jack told me "USD605 for frame, fork, seatpost, axles,headset, bag" custom paint 100$ per color
Quote from: GravelMaxxer on July 28, 2026, 04:14:48 PM
Jack told me "USD605 for frame, fork, seatpost, axles,headset, bag" custom paint 100$ per color
Killer!! Can you ask about the handlebars ? That's the one thing holding me back. I hope they'll release the riser bars starting at 36cm.
Also: « MAX 57MM Tire, 6MM TIRE CLEARANCE » meaning 60c tires should fit
I will add that for EU it's 750 Eur with shipping included.
Photos in the current listing are of the frame "before the geometry change, but the same shape'.
Max 46t chainring.
Quote from: anqry on July 29, 2026, 05:43:53 AM
I will add that for EU it's 750 Eur with shipping included.
Photos in the current listing are of the frame "before the geometry change, but the same shape'.
Max 46t chainring.
Just to confirm, regarding shipping to Europe, it's that usual "DPD delivery", without any extra duties and fees, right?
Quote from: RiP on July 29, 2026, 05:54:57 AM
Just to confirm, regarding shipping to Europe, it's that usual "DPD delivery", without any extra duties and fees, right?
That's right. The exact quote: "Euro750 for frame, fork, seatpost, axles, headset, bag, painting cost and DPD shipping cost which include the tax"
I asked about the handlebar, but the answer was vague. From what I understand there won't be a new one for this frame, but they do have a generic one someone had posted before. Either way, "You can use other handlebar":)
They have their standard handlebar. It is delivered with spacers etc. I'm attaching data sheet provided by Jack.
I'd like to ask for advice - how paying to Mondince via PayPal looks?
How much forward offset do the STs on these frames have?
Trying to figure out the effective STA.
This Mondince FM366 checked all the boxes for me, except for the seatpost. I need to put a dropper post.
Here is FM366 in size M with 2.25" tyres. Would probably fit 2.35" by the looks of it. I got photos today and Mondince confirmed it's a frame built on a "new" geo.
But am I being crazy or something about the frame looks off? It might be a visual illusion because of chimney worth of spacers, a paint choice, or just chunky tyres, but to me it looks short, tall and too front heavy.
It's most likely just me being too undecisive about the frameset I want, but I'd love to hear opinions from more established gravel enjoyers.
(https://i.ibb.co/whZcJ965/1.jpg)
Did some AI "editing". I guess it does look better with less spacers and in a different paint scheme?..
(https://i.ibb.co/7JY1vSQ1/4.jpg)
EDIT
It is NOT actually a new geo.
Quote from: anqry on August 07, 2026, 03:30:22 PM
Here is FM366 in size M with 2.25" tyres. Would probably fit 2.35" by the looks of it.
But am I being crazy or something about the frame looks off? It might be a visual illusion because of chimney worth of spacers, a paint choice, or just chunky tyres, but to me it looks short, tall and too front heavy.
It's most likely just me being too undecisive about the frameset I want, but I'd love to hear opinions from more established gravel enjoyers.
It indeed looks tall and short. I guess that's a prototype from the old geo. The new geo is clearly longer.
Quote from: emilioea on August 07, 2026, 03:35:34 PM
It indeed looks tall and short. I guess that's a prototype from the old geo. The new geo is clearly longer.
It's a frame built on a new geo confirmed to me today by Mondince through Whatsapp. I also thought it might be prototype frame when I saw the pictures, but it seems not. It should look longer, right?
I updated my earlier post to include info about the geo.
Do you have a link to these bikes or frame sets?
Quote from: anqry on August 07, 2026, 03:46:53 PM
It's a frame built on a new geo confirmed to me today by Mondince through Whatsapp. I also thought it might be prototype frame when I saw the pictures, but it seems not. It should look longer, right?
I updated my earlier post to include info about the geo.
Intersting. I've tried some image measuring tools, and I get somewhat close numbers to the new geometry (although I wouldn't call my quick method very precise ;D), so I guess my eyes were deceiving me.
Quote from: emilioea on August 07, 2026, 05:02:01 PM
Intersting. I've tried some image measuring tools, and I get somewhat close numbers to the new geometry (although I wouldn't call my quick method very precise ;D), so I guess my eyes were deceiving me.
After a few more messages with Mondince trying to clarify what's up with that frame, it seems that your eyes are fine and
it is NOT actually a new geo frame, quote: "It is the old geometry. But the frame is the same shape", even though a few messages back they have just said that "This is the new geometry" :D
It's beyond me why would they even send photos of the prototype frame at this point and add to the confusion. I guess some things just get lost in translation or I am just not used dealing with Chinese vendors.
They said size M is already made so I'm trying to get the actual photos.
Quote from: anqry on August 07, 2026, 03:30:22 PM
Here is FM366 in size M with 2.25" tyres. Would probably fit 2.35" by the looks of it. I got photos today and Mondince confirmed it's a frame built on a "new" geo.
But am I being crazy or something about the frame looks off? It might be a visual illusion because of chimney worth of spacers, a paint choice, or just chunky tyres, but to me it looks short, tall and too front heavy.
It's most likely just me being too undecisive about the frameset I want, but I'd love to hear opinions from more established gravel enjoyers.
(https://i.ibb.co/whZcJ965/1.jpg)
Did some AI "editing". I guess it does look better with less spacers and in a different paint scheme?..
(https://i.ibb.co/7JY1vSQ1/4.jpg)
EDIT
It is NOT actually a new geo.
Have a look at how the handlebar "behaves" in this photo, it was done on x1 from the close distance, prefferably, you take photos of a bike from as far away as your optical zoom allows. This gives you a "flatter looking" bike.
In this case it looks like it is 500 or even 600 width handlebar.
I'll also add - I did a preorder, custom paint, lead time is 18 days. It's waiting time then.
I'd love to order this frame but I'm going to let someone else be a guinea pig for me. The inconsistencies re: geometry are quite worrisome.
I'm interested to see this one build up read about some first hand experience in quality and riding characteristics. The photo's from Mondince are not really helping them..
I'm also on the same boat, as I'm considering this frame among other 57mm tire gravel frames for my next build, but I need to see pictures of the final geo frame, mainly of a complete bike with it... :-\
I've asked Jack to send me some proper footage of the frame. The geometry stuff is now sorted, and the one on the website is the final one.
https://youtu.be/Rqxr6xl7WJk (https://youtu.be/Rqxr6xl7WJk)
I think this video makes me almost sure about to place an order - looks bloody good IMHO.
Quote from: Le Duke on August 02, 2026, 11:37:35 AM
How much forward offset do the STs on these frames have?
Trying to figure out the effective STA.
Does the offset matter when the angle is measured from the bb. The real angle of the seat tube must be even less steep. I considered this frame but it looks a bit too slack. Unless it's measured in some different way.
The frame looks great in that video, thanks for sharing! I'm hoping to get my "pre-shipping" video soon as well — mine was supposed to be sent out last week.
Looking at the specs, the geometry is actually surprisingly slack. That works perfectly for my setup, but it's pretty funny that it's marketed as an aero frame, which usually implies a much more aggressive, racey fit.
Edit: Just a quick heads-up from Jack for anyone interested: the downtube storage cover is 100% anodized aluminum. I was fully expecting plastic here, so it was a really pleasant surprise!
I am also not far away to give mondince my money.
Is meanwhile clear what the max chainring size will be?
Looks really great!! Now if only there were a few VISIBLE options for the integrated handlebars. No info about them at all on their website.
Quote from: Tucha on September 02, 2026, 12:52:26 PM
I've asked Jack to send me some proper footage of the frame. The geometry stuff is now sorted, and the one on the website is the final one.
https://youtu.be/Rqxr6xl7WJk (https://youtu.be/Rqxr6xl7WJk)
I think this video makes me almost sure about to place an order - looks bloody good IMHO.
Do you know the size of that frame?
That's M.
Could anyone share an update on their orders? Honestly, Mondince is starting to look more and more shady to me, as much as I hate to say it.
This is the third week in a row where I've emailed them only to get the exact same response: "We will have your frame ready by the end of the week."
I understand how manufacturing delays go, but this kind of communication is completely unacceptable. I'm going to give them one more week before I open a PayPal dispute/refund.
Quote from: Vesryn on September 19, 2026, 07:28:19 AM
Could anyone share an update on their orders? Honestly, Mondince is starting to look more and more shady to me, as much as I hate to say it.
This is the third week in a row where I've emailed them only to get the exact same response: "We will have your frame ready by the end of the week."
I understand how manufacturing delays go, but this kind of communication is completely unacceptable. I'm going to give them one more week before I open a PayPal dispute/refund.
Ordered mine on 6th of September. Jack told me I have to wait about 15 days for custom paint, then another 15 days of shipping. But also - he should provide tracking number once it's shipped.
I will ask him for some update next week.
You'll get the frame. My FM336 was few weeks later than expected, but it came in good shape and Jack has provided good support (mailed me a replacement seatpost and saddle clamp hardware for free) so I would hold on a little longer! I know that's hard to do when you have bike building fever, though! ;)
Quote from: frewster on September 19, 2026, 11:35:00 AM
You'll get the frame. My FM336 was few weeks later than expected, but it came in good shape and Jack has provided good support (mailed me a replacement seatpost and saddle clamp hardware for free) so I would hold on a little longer! I know that's hard to do when you have bike building fever, though! ;)
Please post some pictures !! What's the weight of the frame?
My gut feeling was right after all—something was definitely off. Sadly, this was my first experience with Chinese direct-to-consumer bike manufacturing, and it proved to be quite disappointing.
I've written up a detailed breakdown of what went down with Mondince (Jack Ding) here:
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,7621.0.html
Definitely a lesson learned.
Quote from: Vesryn on September 21, 2026, 02:10:26 PM
My gut feeling was right after all—something was definitely off. Sadly, this was my first experience with Chinese direct-to-consumer bike manufacturing, and it proved to be quite disappointing.
I've written up a detailed breakdown of what went down with Mondince (Jack Ding) here:
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,7621.0.html
Definitely a lesson learned.
What size did you order? I have bought a few frames from oem manufacturers and the one thing i always face is with me needing XL -Frames it takes almost twice as long because they dont have stock. For 500 orders of s/m/l Frames there are just a handful of XS and XL orders. They usually take the bigger orders first for production and the outliers will be pushed back. When i ordered from lightcarbon my dads "M" frame took roughly 1 month while i waited almost 4 months for my XL. If you are on a timelimit i would advice not to order from China.
In my case, it was a size S. My educated guess is that their production run priority usually goes M > L > S > XS/XL.
I'll admit I might have jumped the gun a bit—I wasn't fully aware of how PayPal disputes affect OEM manufacturers behind the scenes. In my defense, waiting itself isn't the issue; I don't mind a long lead time at all. What frustrated me was having the estimated date pushed back week by week. If they had told me upfront that it would take an extra 6 weeks, that wouldn't have been a problem.
Ultimately, it boils down to poor communication.
Guys!
Finally got my FM366 today and I'm honestly very impressed with it.
Ordered directly from Jack via email. Whole process getting the details right with him was pretty straightforward. Ordered September 6th, shipped September 24th and arrived today, October 7th.
The frame looks f**king awesome in person. The paint came out really well, I can't see any defects or chips, and the carbon finish looks great. Everything that needed protection was properly covered and, importantly, all the edges are nicely finished — no sharp carbon edges anywhere (this wasn't so obvious for me having Kocevlo cockpit on my roadbike).
The packaging also deserves a mention. The box clearly took a hit on the side during shipping, but there wasn't a scratch on the frame.
Quote from: Tucha on October 07, 2026, 12:49:33 PM
Guys!
Finally got my FM366 today and I'm honestly very impressed with it.
Ordered directly from Jack via email. Whole process getting the details right with him was pretty straightforward. Ordered September 6th, shipped September 24th and arrived today, October 7th.
The frame looks f**king awesome in person. The paint came out really well, I can't see any defects or chips, and the carbon finish looks great. Everything that needed protection was properly covered and, importantly, all the edges are nicely finished — no sharp carbon edges anywhere (this wasn't so obvious for me having Kocevlo cockpit on my roadbike).
The packaging also deserves a mention. The box clearly took a hit on the side during shipping, but there wasn't a scratch on the frame.
Looks like the latte I had this morning!
Kidding. It looks great. What are you planning on building it up with?
Quote from: Tucha on October 07, 2026, 12:49:33 PM
Guys!
Finally got my FM366 today and I'm honestly very impressed with it.
Ordered directly from Jack via email. Whole process getting the details right with him was pretty straightforward. Ordered September 6th, shipped September 24th and arrived today, October 7th.
The frame looks f**king awesome in person. The paint came out really well, I can't see any defects or chips, and the carbon finish looks great. Everything that needed protection was properly covered and, importantly, all the edges are nicely finished — no sharp carbon edges anywhere (this wasn't so obvious for me having Kocevlo cockpit on my roadbike).
The packaging also deserves a mention. The box clearly took a hit on the side during shipping, but there wasn't a scratch on the frame.
Thanks for sharing!! 1 month ordering to receiving is very nice.
What size did you order? How tall are you?
Can you weigh the frame?
Did you order bars with it?
Can you show how thin is the aero seatpost?
Thanks!!
I am also interested in this frame (I like the higher stack) but I'm thinking of holding off for a little while until I see some builds appearing. Since I couldn't find any pictures of full builds yet I asked Mondince via whatsapp and they sent me these.
No idea what's up with the TT bars on a gravel bike though.
Latte was an inspiration in fact!
That's size M, and I'm 180 tall.
Ordered only the frameset, weights as follows:
Fork: 548,9
Seatpost: 181,2
Frame: 1401
Those weights include all the pre-installed hardware — screws, rubber covers, thru-axles, etc. I'm too lazy to remove everything just to get the bare weights, sorry.
I'm also planning to make some videos documenting the build of my 2027 gravel bike. The build is happening right now, and I'm still figuring out exactly which components I'm going to put together.
I'll probably post more as the build progresses.
Somebody on reddit just finished their FM366 build. Looks quite good!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseCarbon/comments/1x53fky/my_first_build_mondince_fm366
Quote from: LouisVW on October 15, 2026, 11:14:19 AM
Somebody on reddit just finished their FM366 build. Looks quite good!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseCarbon/comments/1x53fky/my_first_build_mondince_fm366
Indeed. The reach still looks short whereas the size chart indicates that it's not short at all
I don't get it
Got quoted $890 for the frame with paint & shipping to France. No handlebars.
Seemed a bit steep 🫤
Let the embarrassment begin!
Here's my video showing the Mondince FM366 frameset.
If you have any questions regarding the frameset, you can hit me up.
As for the video quality itself... Let's just say TraceVelo has nothing to worry about. ;)
Hey everyone,
Just wanted to share a quick update—my frame arrived about two weeks ago! It's currently at the mechanic's shop. Honestly, I could have assembled most of it myself, but I lack the experience and the specific tools needed for cutting and bleeding hydraulic brake lines, so I left that part to the pro.
Details & Specs:
Paint: Gloss Raw Carbon (front) / White Pearl (rear)
Frame (Size S, w/ hardware): 1350g
Fork (w/ hardware): 540g
Seatpost (w/ clamp & rubber seal): 206g
QC issues found:
Overspray on the front face of the BB shell
A small ~1.7mm bump inside the headtube bearing seat
I'll share photos, a full specs list, and a final ride report once it's fully built!