Really trying to nail all the details for my next build.... one thing I def want to try is riser bars. What 380mm options are out there from Chinese brands?
Tavelo, XMCS, Winspace, Evolve.
Depends on how much rise you need. And whether it has to be separate cockpit.
Incolor, Ullicyc
I'm curious about both Tavelo and Winspace
Quote from: Da11as on July 07, 2026, 01:01:00 AM
Depends on how much rise you need. And whether it has to be separate cockpit.
Good point- I do want it separate. I suck at cabling through integrated bars and I really want flexibility with my position.
Avenger
Onirii
If you go for separate bar/stem then balugoe do riser bars.
Can we summon an AI to come up with a table with photos, specs, price, & link, for all these options?
I only summon Baal, as a devout satanist and friend of the Epstein class.
Why not just run a separate positive angled stem?
Quote from: patliean1 on July 07, 2026, 10:03:25 AM
Why not just run a separate positive angled stem?
Tricky to integrate your cables I guess, bugger all available barring Enve.
Quote from: patliean1 on July 07, 2026, 10:03:25 AM
Why not just run a separate positive angled stem?
there's a time in all of our cycling endeavors where appearance well exceeds ability. i'm poster child for that ;D
Quote from: patliean1 on July 07, 2026, 10:03:25 AM
Why not just run a separate positive angled stem?
Im not eligible for social security yet.
I do plan to run a 0 degree stem, but having more rise flexibility would be better.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the reason of the riser bars appearance in the market, because of the Low Stack of the Chinese frames? If so, is there any point to have a riser bar on a bike with "normal stack"?
Maybe to have the handlebar slammed?
Quote from: k0M_hUnter on July 08, 2026, 03:03:46 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the reason of the riser bars appearance in the market, because of the Low Stack of the Chinese frames? If so, is there any point to have a riser bar on a bike with "normal stack"?
Maybe to have the handlebar slammed?
Even higher stack, slammed handlebars indeed, aesthetics and most importantly; it's the latest trend/fad
Quote from: Lotnik on July 07, 2026, 12:08:09 AM
Tavelo, XMCS, Winspace, Evolve.
LIGHTCARBON HBR17
This is the one I'd prefere of all riser bars available ATM.
Quote from: CycOps on July 08, 2026, 05:22:13 AM
LIGHTCARBON HBR17
This is the one I'd prefere of all riser bars available ATM.
Good bars!
How are you guys determining both what frame size and riser handlebar size you need when ordering? I need someone to explain it to me like I am 6 years old. Do I just simply measure the cockpit stack and reach in connect with the frame geometry?
Looking at the Avenger R8RS. Not exactly ground breaking stuff but might be a cool an budget gateway bike into the world of riser bars. And could also make for interesting talking points if I bought one in the future.
Quote from: patliean1 on July 09, 2026, 12:26:06 PM
How are you guys determining both what frame size and riser handlebar size you need when ordering? I need someone to explain it to me like I am 6 years old. Do I just simply measure the cockpit stack and reach in connect with the frame geometry?
I've done trigonometry in Fusion 360 because it's easy to draw stack, reach, and angles (seat tube & stem). So it's easy to map a frame, saddle (the offset / no offset seatpost can be confusing), then stem (w angle), spacers, and that gives you coordinates. With riser bars, it's fundamentally just more spacers, so your stem should lengthen as you go higher, w your ass sat on the saddle as the center of a circle.
What idk, is how much stack you can add before the bike itself rides different and you look like a clown (like that guy on that tavelo who got disqualified from that race he won for looking silly).
Quote from: k0M_hUnter on July 08, 2026, 03:03:46 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the reason of the riser bars appearance in the market, because of the Low Stack of the Chinese frames? If so, is there any point to have a riser bar on a bike with "normal stack"?
Maybe to have the handlebar slammed?
It's just another option for fit. No different than different angle stems or setback vs no setback seatposts for example. These will enable a less aggressive fit on a wider range of frames, vs just having to pick only from endurance frames for example.
Right now I am running 130mm Avro bars. So -10 degrees and no rise. I want to raise my front end. Going to a 0 degree stem would get me ~20mm of rise. Then riser bars could net another 20-30mm. If that's too much rise I can play with different angle stems. Just enables flexibility.
Quote from: Serge_K on July 09, 2026, 12:43:24 PM
I've done trigonometry in Fusion 360 because it's easy to draw stack, reach, and angles (seat tube & stem). So it's easy to map a frame, saddle (the offset / no offset seatpost can be confusing), then stem (w angle), spacers, and that gives you coordinates. With riser bars, it's fundamentally just more spacers, so your stem should lengthen as you go higher, w your ass sat on the saddle as the center of a circle.
What idk, is how much stack you can add before the bike itself rides different and you look like a clown (like that guy on that tavelo who got disqualified from that race he won for looking silly).
This is a great idea. I have been meaning to document my fit and I do a lot in Fusion 360 for 3D printing. I will get to work on this. Super easy.
User xenograft shared this tool they created (https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,5970.msg109657.html#msg109657) that does what Serge describes (without needing Fusion): https://bikefitr-3af15.web.app/
On the left, you enter all the dimensions of your current set-up. Then, on the right you a) enter the dimensions of the frame you're considering and b) play mainly with the saddle, cockpit and handlebar dimensions until you get the contact points of your new rig to match those of your current bike.
Serge's clown caveats still apply.
Quote from: CycOps on July 08, 2026, 05:22:13 AM
LIGHTCARBON HBR17
This is the one I'd prefere of all riser bars available ATM.
The rise is minimal. Cannot be compared with the REAL riser bars which are like 2 to 4cm
Higher
Seka now has the gladius Alta.
has anyone ordered one? I have a 375wide 100mm gladius alta coming that i plan on using on my ExAero.
For those wondering the difference:
https://guileless-stardust-f36cd2.netlify.app/
I can achieve my retul targets with far less stack. Plugged in a few bars and a few frames i was looking to buy.
I still want to get some kind of riser bar for my spear to get to the target as well.
I went with this:
(https://ae-pic-a1.aliexpress-media.com/kf/Sa49abea08131481cb7f88529cd172870Y.jpg_960x960q75.jpg_.avif)
Going to be a while until my build is finished but this should be interesting. Im going to run the cables outside of the bars as well.
I think for the Exaero I am just going to get the gladius even though its a bit heavier than the tavelo but at least it will be all the "same" series. For my Spear if I end up enjoying the gladius and like how the position is, the tavelo makes a ton of spacers for different frames which is pretty impressive so i will try that.
I'm looking at the Hudu Rider, Rpantha, and Yichord bars for my next Light Cycling RF10 build, all in 380mm.
From what I can tell, the Yichord bar on AliExpress appears to be the same design as the Hudu Rider 25mm Rise. The Hudu/Yichord comes in at 70mm reach, 125mm drop and 25mm rise, while the Rpantha is almost identical with the same 70mm reach and 125mm drop, but with a slightly more conservative 20mm rise.
I'm also contemplating the Tavelo, although I could probably be swayed back towards the Incolor Aerowave. The only issue is that the Aerowave starts getting pretty pricey relative to the cost of the frame itself.
The RF10 uses the FSA ACR system, so I'm looking at rise bars more from a fit perspective than an aero one. The supplied cone spacer and top cover add a fair amount of stack, and a rise bar seems a much cleaner solution than ending up with a tower of spacers under a traditional cockpit.
On another note, what's with all the hate for this style of bar compared to traditional integrated bars? Looking at the geometry, we're only talking about 20-25mm of rise with otherwise very conventional numbers. To me they seem like a sensible way of getting the fit right while keeping the front end clean and integrated.
I really dislike that the yichord comes in 95 and 105 and not 100 lol
Do you have links to the other brands?
Tavelo bars have once nice feature, you can pick custom spacers for your frame
Quote from: Sander2177 on October 12, 2026, 08:33:12 AM
On another note, what's with all the hate for this style of bar compared to traditional integrated bars? Looking at the geometry, we're only talking about 20-25mm of rise with otherwise very conventional numbers. To me they seem like a sensible way of getting the fit right while keeping the front end clean and integrated.
I'm also getting interested in riser handlebars...putting ergonomics and geometry aside, what I'd really like to know is whether there's any difference in terms of feel and bike handling compared to a traditional handlebar...I haven't read anything about those aspects yet.
Quote from: Bonus79 on October 12, 2026, 09:28:49 AM
I'm also getting interested in riser handlebars...putting ergonomics and geometry aside, what I'd really like to know is whether there's any difference in terms of feel and bike handling compared to a traditional handlebar...I haven't read anything about those aspects yet.
Nothing in the realms of crazy changes, but when considering HTA, you will slightly increase total reach comparing with fork spacers as the latter tends to decrease it from a declared frame geometry chart.
Coming from flat cockpit to LCR017 minus one spacer, I did not notice the difference. On the other hand, the steering and weight balance feels funky when you have to many spacers (in my case - extra 20 mm to the established fit).
Quote from: agarabaghi on October 12, 2026, 09:02:09 AM
I really dislike that the yichord comes in 95 and 105 and not 100 lol
Do you have links to the other brands?
Tavelo bars have once nice feature, you can pick custom spacers for your frame
After all that, I ended up going with the Tavelo anyway 😂
The 380 × 120 has around 20mm of rise, which works out pretty much perfectly for me. On the RF10 I'll effectively only need the cone spacer and a 10mm bar spacer to get my fit where I want it.
I was getting fed up waiting on the HUDUD questions on spacers and all the back and forth, so I just pulled the trigger on the Tavelo, did ask HUDUD to send me an invoice as well ;D, you snooze you lose!
Being a weight weenie probably helped the decision too. Claimed weight is around 280g, which is hard to argue with will see i might attempt to remove the matt finish myself for UD :D
Here are the AliExpress links for the other bars if anyone is interested:
Rpantahihttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005013293995702.html?pdp_npi=4%40dis%21GBP%21%EF%BF%A1302.98%21%EF%BF%A1263.59%21%21%21389.84%21339.16%21%40210382de17918184776973001e0fc6%2112000060754057884%21sh%21GB%216406715354%21X&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_allItems_or_groupList.new_all_items_2007523599136.1005013293995702
HUDUDhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005013309537969.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.98ab11b2KdqyqL&algo_pvid=827cd0c4-6035-4134-ae6c-0dc01096d335&algo_exp_id=827cd0c4-6035-4134-ae6c-0dc01096d335-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%222%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21GBP%21256.80%21241.39%21%21%212209.97%212077.37%21%400b0fe78617918186386085271e0c22%2112000060795585308%21sea%21GB%216406715354%21ABX%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3A57ebd5c4%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=TLp5u0nfuEAE&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A1005013309537969%7C_p_origin_prod%3A&tblci=GiAVopNGx94PfImHdB0QhQ6T_GgBTd1a8RHSIJKeKs0QtiDA9m4orM3p4Ma8qrgaMPi_Rw
YICHORDhttps://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005013314248609.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.similar_items.1.2be5sAvtsAvtUe&utparam-url=scene%3Aimage_search%7Cquery_from%3Adetail_bigimg%7Cx_object_id%3A1005013314248609%7C_p_origin_prod%3A&algo_pvid=31295dc5-c8ef-4281-9458-5dec31f8bb3a&algo_exp_id=31295dc5-c8ef-4281-9458-5dec31f8bb3a&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%2210%22%2C%22fromPage%22%3A%22search%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21GBP%21279.19%21209.39%21%21%212402.67%211801.98%21%4021038a9c17918186702783054e0ea5%2112000060778603172%21sea%21GB%216406715354%21ABX%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29910%3Bd%3A57ebd5c4%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895
As far as I know, the riser handlebars from yichord and rpantahi are manufactured by hudud. It also appears that light-cycling produces riser bars; the price is $150 per set.
Well I received the Ullicyc T5 bar and that was a bit of a disappointment. The T5 does more or less give the same total stack to the hoods as the T4. I don't get how they make the drawings/specifications? Stem angle is especially important to compare in the same way. I feel it's a bit of a gamble buying new type of handlebars and I will not use them. The T4 is better looking and much more stiff. Actually a really nice bar. Was hoping to be able to slam the T5 but no point. Will continue using the T4 bars for coming builds.
Quote from: delarune on October 14, 2026, 01:35:33 PM
Well I received the Ullicyc T5 bar and that was a bit of a disappointment. The T5 does more or less give the same total stack to the hoods as the T4. I don't get how they make the drawings/specifications? Stem angle is especially important to compare in the same way. I feel it's a bit of a gamble buying new type of handlebars and I will not use them. The T4 is better looking and much more stiff. Actually a really nice bar. Was hoping to be able to slam the T5 but no point. Will continue using the T4 bars for coming builds.
Sorry to hear that. I am also running the T4 on two bikes and I like them a lot. When I first saw the T5, I was excited for another option of riser bars.
I am quite tall, therefore everything that adds stack without a spacer chimney is appreciated to dial in bike fit.
The challenge with riser bar cockpits as it seems, is that there is no unified approach how to "specify" them.
Not even do you need to look at the drawings very carefully, some drawings (like the one of the T5) are just shite.
Even after contacting Ullicyc on AliExpress, I still have not fully understood their drawing - which unfortunately you confirmed.
I've also received the Ullicyc T5. I can't understand the T4 drawing*, so I won't try to compare them. The T5 appears to match its drawing, which gives me the extra rise I need when sketched in CAD.
They seem plenty stiff.
I am a bit disappointed in the overall quality.
The outside, at first glance, looks very nice. Looking closer, there's various sharp edges at the cable openings that will need some fettling.
Looking at the inside with a borescope shows various bits of fiber loose and what I think is a very resin rich area where the stem meets the bar. I'll admit to never have before looked inside a set of carbon bars for comparison.
The T4 drawing shows a 7 degree stem angle, that's visually just shy of 90 degrees, measured from an apparently random reference line.
https://ja.aliexpress.com/i/1005009212475134.html
These two (actually seem to be the same) just showed up on Ali.
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Some DIY trigonometry or CAD required to figure out the actual rise they give at different stem lengths. They claim 25 mm rise, but it's obviously going to be a function of the stem length. I can't understand why the Chinese bar companies can't produce a clear, easy to understand drawing. For me, that really takes away confidence in their design engineering ability.
Is there a way on this forum to hide ugly URL's with a friendly label?
You can just chop off most of the link
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005013361268630.html
More interested to see what shifter transition is like and if any of these come with a longer reach for an actual aero hoods position (rather than just to fit people who need to do some yoga / go to the gym)
Mine came in.... they weigh ~291g. Kind of bums me out when Tavelo Rise integrated bars weigh less but I need to dial my fit before committing to integrated bars again. But they seem nice and decent quality.
Just noticed the Ullicyc T6 on AliExpress, that seems to compare to Hudud, Rpantahi and Yichord riser cokpits
As usual, Ullicyc offers MJF printed headset adapters
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005013378007163.html (https://aliexpress.com/item/1005013378007163.html)
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005013406615275.html (https://aliexpress.com/item/1005013406615275.html)