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Title: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Tpower59 on August 14, 2026, 01:54:58 PM
(https://www.icanbikes.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/Racing-Aero-Full-Carbon-Road-Frame-T47-BB-UDH-ICAN-A54-01.avif)

Did anyone heard about this model ?
Webpage seems to be online only since August 10
https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/racing-aero-full-carbon-road-frameset-udh-ican-a54/# (https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/racing-aero-full-carbon-road-frameset-udh-ican-a54/#)
- 35 mm clearance
- UDH
- T47 BB
- FSA ACR 1.5" headset

(https://www.icanbikes.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/Racing-Aero-Full-Carbon-Road-Frame-T47-BB-UDH-ICAN-A54-11.avif)
Geometry :







SIZETTLSTLSTAHTLHTARCBBHFLFRFCREACHSTACKWB
XS531447.874.5°10071°4157037445571388511991.2
S541497.874°12072°4157037445581389527994.2
M551.3517.873.5°14072.5°4157037445591.1389548995.9
L561537.873°16073°4157037445601.1394.55681003.2
XL571550.872.5°18073.5°41570374456104005891011.9
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Ultramic on August 14, 2026, 02:37:31 PM
Depending on the price, this looks like a good alternative to the lcr020.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: yappy on August 14, 2026, 03:18:24 PM
XS size REACH 388mm!?!? too insane
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Uberflo on August 14, 2026, 03:20:53 PM
Outdated STA especially in the larger sizes
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Chiyou on August 14, 2026, 03:36:13 PM
Seat tube angle doesn't really mean much with these partially rounded, partially straight tubes.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Ultramic on August 14, 2026, 06:07:13 PM
Quote from: Uberflo on August 14, 2026, 03:20:53 PM
Outdated STA especially in the larger sizes

I agree especially since I'll be looking at an XL, but a zero offset seatpost should remedy this.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: patliean1 on August 14, 2026, 09:34:15 PM
The overall design looks like an XM CarbonSpeed VRT but on peptides.

STA is indeed outdated. Even for someone like myself whose been gradually moving my saddle forward.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: KRoser on August 14, 2026, 10:02:19 PM
with this "S5" seat tube style, real world STA is maybe about 1-2° steeper then geo chart would suggest, depending on size and seat height.
So I would say even thou STA looks slack compare to normal bikes in reality STA would be much steeper than standard.

I would say this ICAN, XMCS VRT and light carbon LCR020 will have STA much steaper that geo chart would suggest.

I just tried to put geo reference picture to Fusion 360 and tried to align it. This is real STA that came out compare to geo chart in size M.
If someone have experience with this please pitch in If Iam wrong about this, I have never own this kind of geo on a bike, Iam just coming from my basic geometry knowledge :).

So every other bike that has two geo chart seat tube lines and seat tube does not come directly from bb center will be like this, STA much steeper than geo chart. Just another thing to be aware of when choosing a bike :)

Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Dark17 on August 15, 2026, 12:37:55 AM
Ahh so Yishun R033D. And as I've said on Yishun r033D thread, it's the same geometry as Scott Foil RC
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Xtakayamax on August 15, 2026, 08:10:07 AM
Any infos on pricing and availability? I just sent a message but probably will take some time untilthey get back to me with specs and all the info
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Takiyaki on August 15, 2026, 09:11:22 AM
First of all, lol @ this frame. Not because it's bad, but because it's just kind of funny at how unoriginal these companies are getting. At least they are copying stuff we want.

I do feel like these offset seatpost frames require a rethink on how geometry is calculated. Most frames have a vertical BB offset. I think it's time to start counting horizontal BB offset from the seat post axis and rethinking stuff like STA, TTL, maybe even reach to be honest. Because where this geometry chart says your saddle is going to be and where it's actually gonna be are super different. I would not be surprised if we were talking about saddles being like 30-50mm more forward than the charts would indicate which obviously impacts fit, handling etc. Biggie is shortened effective reach. Other stuff like hip angle will be impacted too. So you would have to do another level of geometric analysis to truly transfer your fit 1:1. And it's possible the geometry of these offset seatpost frames will require a total rethink of fit.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Tpower59 on August 16, 2026, 11:10:57 PM
Price
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on August 17, 2026, 12:04:07 AM
Quote from: Tpower59 on August 16, 2026, 11:10:57 PM
Price

Thanks for getting this info! Where did you get in contact with them? I sent an inquiry on the website a few days ago and haven't gotten a response yet. Wouldn't be surprised if they're inundated though.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Dark17 on August 17, 2026, 01:32:58 AM
Quote from: Tpower59 on August 16, 2026, 11:10:57 PM
Price

Another sales rep quoted me 730 USD....
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Da11as on August 17, 2026, 02:03:02 AM
Quote from: Takiyaki on August 15, 2026, 09:11:22 AM
First of all, lol @ this frame. Not because it's bad, but because it's just kind of funny at how unoriginal these companies are getting. At least they are copying stuff we want.

I do feel like these offset seatpost frames require a rethink on how geometry is calculated. Most frames have a vertical BB offset. I think it's time to start counting horizontal BB offset from the seat post axis and rethinking stuff like STA, TTL, maybe even reach to be honest. Because where this geometry chart says your saddle is going to be and where it's actually gonna be are super different. I would not be surprised if we were talking about saddles being like 30-50mm more forward than the charts would indicate which obviously impacts fit, handling etc. Biggie is shortened effective reach. Other stuff like hip angle will be impacted too. So you would have to do another level of geometric analysis to truly transfer your fit 1:1. And it's possible the geometry of these offset seatpost frames will require a total rethink of fit.
True, although steeper STA should be accompanied with substantial increase in reach across all sizes to prevent sitting to far over handlebarsand excessive load on arms. So far, progressive geometry is still (and probably will be) a very niche stuff.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: BikerJens on August 17, 2026, 03:06:38 AM
Quote from: yappy on August 14, 2026, 03:18:24 PM
XS size REACH 388mm!?!? too insane

And then stop at 400 mm in XL?!

For a tall guy with a long torso it started out great and then ending 12 mm later (there is potentially a bad joke there somewhere..).

Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Bonus79 on August 17, 2026, 05:25:59 AM
In terms of frame design, it reminds me a lot of the Berria Belodor: "slender" aerodynamic design.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: casper.f on August 17, 2026, 06:17:28 AM
Quote from: Bonus79 on August 17, 2026, 05:25:59 AM
In terms of frame design, it reminds me a lot of the Berria Belodor: "slender" aerodynamic design.
Made by Mondince/TideAce by their lay up infographic on their site, by the looks of it.

To me it looks like a scott foil on a diet, just like many more. LCR020 look like Scott foil with slimmer rear end 35c clearance
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Tpower59 on August 17, 2026, 08:03:24 AM
Quote from: casper.f on August 17, 2026, 06:17:28 AM
Made by Mondince/TideAce by their lay up infographic on their site, by the looks of it.

To me it looks like a scott foil on a diet, just like many more. LCR020 look like Scott foil with slimmer rear end 35c clearance

Haha just noticed this one hour ago
The blue and yellow render is exactly the same as Mondince one for the FM126
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Bonus79 on August 17, 2026, 10:30:22 AM
Quote from: Tpower59 on August 17, 2026, 08:03:24 AM
Haha just noticed this one hour ago
The blue and yellow render is exactly the same as Mondince one for the FM126

Sorry, but where can I find the Mondince render you're referring to?
Thanks
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on August 17, 2026, 01:47:25 PM
Here's a PDF I got from sales ([email protected]). I was quoted "A54 ,USD730/set ,frame, fork, headset ,seatpost"
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Ghandy on August 17, 2026, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: lucasv on August 17, 2026, 01:47:25 PM
Here's a PDF I got from sales ([email protected]). I was quoted "A54 ,USD730/set ,frame, fork, headset ,seatpost"

I like the gravel tires in the pictures  ;D
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Takiyaki on August 17, 2026, 03:23:07 PM
Quote from: Da11as on August 17, 2026, 02:03:02 AM
True, although steeper STA should be accompanied with substantial increase in reach across all sizes to prevent sitting to far over handlebarsand excessive load on arms. So far, progressive geometry is still (and probably will be) a very niche stuff.

Now I'm really confused. The forward offset BB basically acts like a huge seatpost setback, which runs counter to the progressive geometry ideal. I need to think about this. I might draw something up in fusion
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Xtakayamax on August 17, 2026, 03:50:51 PM
I got a quote today at 730 as well. I will probably get one of those as it seems to be a cheaper version of the XMCS. geometry seems good enough for me and they said that they are available for immediate shipping.

Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Tpower59 on August 17, 2026, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: Xtakayamax on August 17, 2026, 03:50:51 PM
I got a quote today at 730 as well. I will probably get one of those as it seems to be a cheaper version of the XMCS. geometry seems good enough for me and they said that they are available for immediate shipping.

Not in big sizes (XL)
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Ultramic on August 17, 2026, 06:18:27 PM
Quote from: Tpower59 on August 17, 2026, 04:44:20 PM
Not in big sizes (XL)

That sucks. I'm jumping off this aero hype train. As much as I don't like buying "copy" or "inspired by" frames, it looks like the new tt-x68 is the front runner for me at the moment.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on August 18, 2026, 01:39:44 AM
I'm gonna dump some of my confusion onto this thread and hope somebody can figure this out for me  ;D

I asked Melody what the actual clearance on the rear is, knowing that 35mm is stated. She replied: "Check our geometric charts ,when tire 35mm ,8.2mm spacer for each side
We do not advise 37mm ,but you could try ?"

She sent this message with the following PDF attached, which shows a 40mm tire on the front and rear with 8.2mm and 6.2mm clearance on either side, respectively.

...what?

EDIT: She just got back to me: "Sorry ,forgot to update the geometric charts ,the real max tire 35mm we design
And 6mm also available,so we think 37mm tires works "

This is exciting to me. I'm likely going to order this frame as I'm looking to fit a 35mm measuring ~37mm on the back.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: eins4eins on August 18, 2026, 02:35:18 AM
This is the most interesting bike i've seen in a while. Reach could've have been a tiny bit longer, but overall, the geometry is very modern.
Weight is okay, tire clearance is very good, optic is great.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Ultramic on August 18, 2026, 04:51:01 AM
I was advised that XL will be available in Oct.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Tpower59 on August 18, 2026, 05:20:55 AM
Quote from: Ultramic on August 18, 2026, 04:51:01 AM
I was advised that XL will be available in Oct.

Ready for next season
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: eins4eins on August 18, 2026, 05:51:25 AM
$625 without handlebar. Crystal couldn't give me a lead time today, but i'm ordering one as well if its not weeks out.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on August 18, 2026, 10:39:23 AM
Their available handlebar options are not great (max stem 110mm, minimum width 40cm). What other handlebars would you guys consider running?
I'm trying to get 130mm/36cm ideally with some flare.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: patliean1 on August 18, 2026, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: lucasv on August 18, 2026, 10:39:23 AM
Their available handlebar options are not great (max stem 110mm, minimum width 40cm). What other handlebars would you guys consider running?
I'm trying to get 130mm/36cm ideally with some flare.

I just received my new Graro gravel frame from ICAN. And yes, the available handlebar sizes are absolutely atrocious. I'm gonna have to get creative and use my own separate handlebar stem combo.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: eins4eins on August 18, 2026, 10:41:40 PM
Crystal wrote lead time is about two months.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on August 19, 2026, 12:57:44 AM
Quote from: eins4eins on August 18, 2026, 10:41:40 PM
Crystal wrote lead time is about two months.

For XL or one of the other sizes?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: eins4eins on August 19, 2026, 01:51:40 AM
size M
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on August 19, 2026, 08:26:00 AM
Quote from: lucasv on August 18, 2026, 10:39:23 AM
Their available handlebar options are not great (max stem 110mm, minimum width 40cm). What other handlebars would you guys consider running?
I'm trying to get 130mm/36cm ideally with some flare.

Careful as some measure in the drops and some on the tops, same thing with the stem measuring. Best to ask for cut sheet.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: matqobee on August 20, 2026, 07:27:36 AM
I tried to overlay ICAN A54 againts Speeder SC-R55D and it seems that A54 seatpost is much more forward even if stated STA is only 73 vs. 73.5 on SC-R55D

What would be your estimates on "actual" STA on A54?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczPlDCw-ChU1Mqx_lxiagms8idrmeJMbayYWklhulnt3FsnzdXOxU6UfAYX5m4QYq_1fg64nE4aEToAZbHZcbrY_moExXv0CiynKIvzh0KBb8W1KS_vaNTiJP5E_kMNi1zKdV2afp0hDrZkUcCyqMMC3eg=w1299-h948-s-no-gm?authuser=0)
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Gloopann on August 20, 2026, 07:58:25 AM
I still can't get over the massively long reach. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind reach, still young and flexy enough to be comfortable... But the reach is so similar through all sizes, the small sizes seem ridicilously long. Are you guys just taller to get the bigger sizes and have a relatively normal reach? The reach is turning me off this bike
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Takiyaki on August 20, 2026, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: Gloopann on August 20, 2026, 07:58:25 AM
I still can't get over the massively long reach. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind reach, still young and flexy enough to be comfortable... But the reach is so similar through all sizes, the small sizes seem ridicilously long. Are you guys just taller to get the bigger sizes and have a relatively normal reach? The reach is turning me off this bike
It looks like the true STA makes the reach a good bit shorter

Anyone looking at this frame is gonna need to find some kind of geometry tool to account for it to dial in fit.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: KRoser on August 20, 2026, 08:27:07 AM
matqobee: Take a look at picture that I posted on page 1. I put bike geo chart to fusion f360 and tried to align it to real world measurements, it is not perfect but from my experience pretty close.

on size M from what is geo chart picture I calculated real STA 75.4°
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on August 20, 2026, 04:14:50 PM
Does anybody with experience with ICAN custom painting know if this design would be too complex?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Bonus79 on August 21, 2026, 03:15:21 AM
Quote from: lucasv on August 20, 2026, 04:14:50 PM
Does anybody with experience with ICAN custom painting know if this design would be too complex?

The frame in the photo isn't the ICAN A54, though, right?

Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: oker_s on August 21, 2026, 08:21:31 AM
Quote from: lucasv on August 20, 2026, 04:14:50 PM
Does anybody with experience with ICAN custom painting know if this design would be too complex?

i have custom paint without decals on my graro....was pretty happy with the result
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on August 21, 2026, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: lucasv on August 20, 2026, 04:14:50 PM
Does anybody with experience with ICAN custom painting know if this design would be too complex?

They can and will do anything as long as you are willing to pay for. Their paint quality is pretty good to be honest.

I am really struggling to see the reason for ppl to be going for these VERY aggressive frames. I mean for the pros, sure, but for the rest of us????
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on August 21, 2026, 09:21:31 AM
Quote from: Bonus79 on August 21, 2026, 03:15:21 AM
The frame in the photo isn't the ICAN A54, though, right?

AI slop given my wheels and the frame shape
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on August 21, 2026, 09:23:15 AM
Quote from: crazyravr on August 21, 2026, 08:38:40 AM
They can and will do anything as long as you are willing to pay for. Their paint quality is pretty good to be honest.

I am really struggling to see the reason for ppl to be going for these VERY aggressive frames. I mean for the pros, sure, but for the rest of us????

I mean it's a pretty similar geo to any other race bike. Not sure who you're including in "rest of us"
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Sakizashi on August 21, 2026, 09:46:37 AM
Going to preface this by saying I probably won't be getting this frame as I have the LTK266D-SL already as a test bike, and this bike doesn't do much that one can't other than be slightly more aero. This bike definitely needs the same kind of thread, though. As is, it looks like most people will need to convert to run a different bar/stem setup. There are also going to be a lot of challenges getting good info on tire clearance and saddle placement.

On the bar/stem front. This frame appears to use the "standard" 8.7mm bearing seat depth. This means that headset solutions from FSA, Deda, Token, Enve, Cane Creek, etc should all fit fine. Some of the lower-cost ICR headsets, like those from Neco, may not fit, as those use a 6mm depth. For bar compatibility, though, perhaps the more important thing is that it uses a circular headset cover, so the covers / c-rings that come with many bars are likely to fit and look good (not a comment on whether they are good quality or will work well).

As for geometry, the human body is complex, and there are definitely flat-back positions that work really well for people with good hip mobility but lower back issues. Those same people would find a more upright position to be uncomfortable. I think it's high time that we start to think about bike positions as requiring the right stack, not just higher or lower. That said, this specific sizing scheme is odd because it generally suggests that smaller riders rely on length to get the right back angle, while larger riders rely on drop. However, to counter the argument that people need more spacers, they then raised the stack, so the reach numbers get pulled in on the longer sizes while the wheelbase continues to grow.

I also question if this geometry chart is right; it looks like there are some reach/wheelbase numbers that would benefit from more scrutiny.

Overall, very interesting frame and I look forward to seeing some built up.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Bonus79 on August 21, 2026, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: lucasv on August 21, 2026, 09:21:31 AM
AI slop given my wheels and the frame shape

Just as I imagined...I noticed several details that differ from the original ICAN A54 frame.  ;)
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on September 14, 2026, 01:00:02 PM
Placed an order last week. Should arrive end of Nov. Just in time for winter lol
Ordering process and customization was done via WhatsApp and received all the info I asked for and got help with pain customizing.
Will report back once I have something in my hands.

This is not the first time I was dealing with ICAN. Couple yeas back I got their 52mm wheelset and is still going strong.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on September 14, 2026, 02:58:23 PM
I also ordered this frame on Aug 27 in size L with custom painting. Total price was 1211 USD with shipping to USA:
Frame and handlebars: $730
Custom paint: $230
Shipping: $197
PayPal goods & services: $54

They told me 2-4 weeks for custom painting, so I'm just entering that window now.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Takiyaki on September 14, 2026, 03:55:07 PM
Quote from: crazyravr on August 21, 2026, 08:38:40 AM

I am really struggling to see the reason for ppl to be going for these VERY aggressive frames. I mean for the pros, sure, but for the rest of us????
People are built differently.......... Im running a 140mm stem on a typical geometry 55cm frameset. Im 175cm with a ~185cm wingspan, so I need extra reach. Just comes down to what fit people need. I do feel like bike makers need to offer extra sizes, at least in that ~52-56cm range.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: patliean1 on September 14, 2026, 04:44:28 PM
I can't for the life of me understand why individuals get so wrapped in other folks' bike fit and frame selections. Especially if the rider hasn't expressed any discomfort or pain in their current setup.

There are just far too many variables from rider to rider to make such a blanket statement.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Serge_K on September 15, 2026, 08:34:12 AM
Clearance is 35+6.2+6.2mm at the rear (and prob a tad more at the front). There was confusion, and there were mistakes in previous versions of the CAD design. The attached is as per Crystal, today.
So, 39+4.2+4.2
39.4+4+4 (ISO, afaik)
40+3.7+3.7
41+3.2+3.2
...
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Sakizashi on September 15, 2026, 08:58:17 AM
Quote from: Serge_K on September 15, 2026, 08:34:12 AM
Clearance is 35+6.2+6.2mm at the rear (and prob a tad more at the front). There was confusion, and there were mistakes in previous versions of the CAD design. The attached is as per Crystal, today.
So, 39+4.2+4.2
39.4+4+4 (ISO, afaik)

This is pretty great. There are a few brands, like 3T, that would advertise this as a 38 or 39mm clearance bike using tat ISO "racing bicycle" carve out of the standard.

Could you ask them if any of the other frame dimensions were updated? If so, also ask for an updated geo chart?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: BeR on September 15, 2026, 09:41:00 AM
Quote from: Serge_K on September 15, 2026, 08:34:12 AM
Clearance is 35+6.2+6.2mm at the rear (and prob a tad more at the front). There was confusion, and there were mistakes in previous versions of the CAD design. The attached is as per Crystal, today.
So, 39+4.2+4.2
39.4+4+4 (ISO, afaik)
40+3.7+3.7
41+3.2+3.2
...

For your information, the clearance is the same for all the sizes.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: BFBS on September 15, 2026, 05:45:10 PM
Quote from: patliean1 on September 14, 2026, 04:44:28 PM
I can't for the life of me understand why individuals get so wrapped in other folks' bike fit and frame selections. Especially if the rider hasn't expressed any discomfort or pain in their current setup.

There are just far too many variables from rider to rider to make such a blanket statement.
Agreed and they ignore the STA. The Ridley Noah Fast has 399mm reach in XS but an STA of 76 degree. A steeper STA leads to the reach number getting higher without the effective reach getting longer.
And if you've long torso/short legs these 'aggressive' geometries aren't aggressive.
Anyways will the eSTA seems to be quite high on this frame at least in S, the question is just how long you can extend the Seatpost
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: oker_s on September 16, 2026, 07:16:42 AM
i wrote my contact at ican "peggy" today. she said she cant offer me the frame cause its just for resellers. She answered i need to contact other persons. Which persons do you contact? And whats der mail/whatsapp whatever?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Serge_K on September 16, 2026, 07:33:18 AM
Quote from: oker_s on September 16, 2026, 07:16:42 AM
i wrote my contact at ican "peggy" today. she said she cant offer me the frame cause its just for resellers. She answered i need to contact other persons. Which persons do you contact? And whats der mail/whatsapp whatever?

Peggy just pegged you.
Peggy the peg.
Pegging Peggy.

Was that helpful? No. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: BeR on September 16, 2026, 08:06:03 AM
Quote from: oker_s on September 16, 2026, 07:16:42 AM
i wrote my contact at ican "peggy" today. she said she cant offer me the frame cause its just for resellers. She answered i need to contact other persons. Which persons do you contact? And whats der mail/whatsapp whatever?

Ask to Melody, She can sells you the frame.

I have no idea why They don't share the same speech.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on September 16, 2026, 12:40:28 PM
For those looking at Large..... wont be available for another two months as its sold out. XL frame as not ready yet.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: BeR on September 17, 2026, 03:38:45 AM
Keep in mind that the seatpost is only 300 mm.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Bonus79 on September 17, 2026, 09:30:35 AM
I don't recall if this has already been mentioned: do you know if UCI certification will be sought for this frame?
Thanks
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on September 30, 2026, 08:39:18 AM
Well my frame shipped last night with tracking provided.
So far excellent communication with ican and a COMPLETELY different experience from any other China manufacturer I have ever dealt with. Night and day. So far so good. Now the waiting begins.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: BeR on September 30, 2026, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: crazyravr on September 30, 2026, 08:39:18 AM
Well my frame shipped last night with tracking provided.
So far excellent communication with ican and a COMPLETELY different experience from any other China manufacturer I have ever dealt with. Night and day. So far so good. Now the waiting begins.

Do you have some pictures to share please ?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: oker_s on October 07, 2026, 11:34:23 PM
I'm currently looking to order a frame from ICAN ($730 frame + $69 custom paint). However, when talking to them, they are asking for an additional $129 for shipping & prepaid taxes .(to germany)

Including Paypal the total offer is 969 Dollar...

How much did you guys end up paying in total for shipping/taxes on your recent orders?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Dark17 on October 08, 2026, 12:03:13 AM
That's a fair price. I paid 1k usd for each chiner frame I ordered
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: oker_s on October 08, 2026, 03:00:36 AM
Quote from: Dark17 on October 08, 2026, 12:03:13 AM
That's a fair price. I paid 1k usd for each chiner frame I ordered

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Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: MarioCanario on October 08, 2026, 03:11:59 AM
Quote from: oker_s on October 07, 2026, 11:34:23 PM
I'm currently looking to order a frame from ICAN ($730 frame + $69 custom paint). However, when talking to them, they are asking for an additional $129 for shipping & prepaid taxes .(to germany)

Including Paypal the total offer is 969 Dollar...

How much did you guys end up paying in total for shipping/taxes on your recent orders?
that is a normal shipping fee for DPD and such from china to europe. paypal is a costly sucker, but at least you have leverage if anything goes wrong.
tip: at paypal payment checkout do not use the paypal currency exchange rates. if you have, go through your credit card. usually way cheaper
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Bonus79 on October 08, 2026, 03:50:24 AM
Quote from: oker_s on October 07, 2026, 11:34:23 PM
I'm currently looking to order a frame from ICAN ($730 frame + $69 custom paint). However, when talking to them, they are asking for an additional $129 for shipping & prepaid taxes .(to germany)

Including Paypal the total offer is 969 Dollar...

How much did you guys end up paying in total for shipping/taxes on your recent orders?

May I ask what kind of custom color you requested for that price?

Thanks.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: ElB on October 08, 2026, 05:02:25 AM
Quote from: KRoser on August 14, 2026, 10:02:19 PM
with this "S5" seat tube style, real world STA is maybe about 1-2° steeper then geo chart would suggest, depending on size and seat height.
So I would say even thou STA looks slack compare to normal bikes in reality STA would be much steeper than standard.

I would say this ICAN, XMCS VRT and light carbon LCR020 will have STA much steaper that geo chart would suggest.

I just tried to put geo reference picture to Fusion 360 and tried to align it. This is real STA that came out compare to geo chart in size M.
If someone have experience with this please pitch in If Iam wrong about this, I have never own this kind of geo on a bike, Iam just coming from my basic geometry knowledge :).

So every other bike that has two geo chart seat tube lines and seat tube does not come directly from bb center will be like this, STA much steeper than geo chart. Just another thing to be aware of when choosing a bike :)
I guess that the underlying assumption is that the provided "cad" picture has the right proportions. According to my calculations, the frame picture by ICAN seems to lack such a property (it is barely consistent with a size M) or the measurements I can get from the picture are not accurate as they need to; regrettably the picture seems useless for the purpose to infer eSTA or to make any other assessment with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

That being said, if we assume the picture refers to a size M frame, then I get what is in the picture, i.e., the seat angle measured where the actual seat tube is inserted is about 79/80 degrees. The number is bonkers, but most of the steep angle effect is wiped out once you consider the "BB offset" (the 60mm figure in the picture). For my seat height, this ICAN frame I would get almost the same setback I can achieve with a "regular" frame with 75 degrees STA.

Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: ElB on October 08, 2026, 05:15:38 AM
Quote from: Takiyaki on August 15, 2026, 09:11:22 AM
First of all, lol @ this frame. Not because it's bad, but because it's just kind of funny at how unoriginal these companies are getting. At least they are copying stuff we want.

I do feel like these offset seatpost frames require a rethink on how geometry is calculated. Most frames have a vertical BB offset. I think it's time to start counting horizontal BB offset from the seat post axis and rethinking stuff like STA, TTL, maybe even reach to be honest. Because where this geometry chart says your saddle is going to be and where it's actually gonna be are super different. I would not be surprised if we were talking about saddles being like 30-50mm more forward than the charts would indicate which obviously impacts fit, handling etc. Biggie is shortened effective reach. Other stuff like hip angle will be impacted too. So you would have to do another level of geometric analysis to truly transfer your fit 1:1. And it's possible the geometry of these offset seatpost frames will require a total rethink of fit.
I totally agree with your points. I think the problem stemmed by the "original" frames they are mimicking: S5, as well as Y1RS, geometries has been laid to the public in the traditional fashion, I guess so that people do not overthink too much before buying. At the end of the day, you can choose to be fitted to those frames with your butt over the rear hub or by adopting a more forward position, but not as far as a proper progressive geometry frame will allow you to as you are limited by the modest reach those frames have and the integrated handlebars they require. I would say that with the ICAN frame you have more degrees of freedom if you go it is for a bar+stem combo to get the reach you need once you place your pelvis close to the BB.

My personal view is that if you know what your are looking for, then you can easily figure out whether this frame is suitable to you.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: oker_s on October 08, 2026, 08:13:24 AM
Quote from: MarioCanario on October 08, 2026, 03:11:59 AM
that is a normal shipping fee for DPD and such from china to europe. paypal is a costly sucker, but at least you have leverage if anything goes wrong.
tip: at paypal payment checkout do not use the paypal currency exchange rates. if you have, go through your credit card. usually way cheaper

Thanks, but I'm well aware that the shipping price is fair. My question isn't about whether it's a good deal.

My previous purchases with ICAN always had shipping and PayPal fees fully included in the initial quote, so I'm specifically trying to figure out if anyone else has been asked to pay these additional costs extra for this specific frame.

I'd really appreciate it if anyone who has ordered this frame recently could share their actual experience regarding these extra charges



Quote from: Bonus79 on October 08, 2026, 03:50:24 AM
May I ask what kind of custom color you requested for that price?

Thanks.

I think I'm going to go with a shade of grey—I guess you could call it silver-grey.

I saw it on Instagram back in the spring when I ordered my Graro frame, but I wanted a specific shade of white at the time. So now it's down to either this grey or glossy raw carbon... but I'm leaning heavily towards grey.

I've attached a picture of the Graro frame in case you're interested
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: oker_s on October 08, 2026, 09:10:52 AM
sorry forgot the pic
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on October 09, 2026, 09:39:28 AM
Frame received. Much faster than expected. Ordered with custom painting Sept. 11th. Received Oct. 08.
Everything screams quality here from the communication to packing to paint and finishes. Based on this we will be ordering a Graro for my wife.
The bad news is that I am currently packing for a Mallorca trip and another is that I will wait until 11:11 to get a groupset :)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BTSyK77byQsg04zBcOCatHGJMZZQdnka/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CQsZ0ZW7DC6nwornZZNsj2exP-HhPpWc/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WxtmXcRKLR1uHvggUaglJ7vdRlKBG-UP/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yu521LugHpd2D77N97WGmQCbVWIRRr2p/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dq05bMNzyse6byWClOLo8gXrWLohQ3vt/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1njxyhjYcf_ykMDS0pGu6zVltlugiCmer/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qkCy0Vjs5XDp4LSZ2dS7d5rJIfLO0s6l/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Ultramic on October 09, 2026, 04:21:26 PM
Nice, I'm deciding between this and the new tt-x68. That BB needs facing though, I thought ICAN have been around long enough to get this part right.

How did you get in contact with them ? They are not responding to my WhatsApp so I might try email.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on October 10, 2026, 01:00:04 AM
Did they send tracking info to you? All I've gotten was pictures of my completed custom paint like two weeks ago and no tracking even after emailing melody again.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Dark17 on October 10, 2026, 01:44:54 AM
They are currently on a long holiday so it may take a while
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Bonus79 on October 10, 2026, 04:32:12 AM
Quote from: crazyravr on October 09, 2026, 09:39:28 AM
Frame received. Much faster than expected. Ordered with custom painting Sept. 11th. Received Oct. 08.
Everything screams quality here from the communication to packing to paint and finishes. Based on this we will be ordering a Graro for my wife.
The bad news is that I am currently packing for a Mallorca trip and another is that I will wait until 11:11 to get a groupset :)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BTSyK77byQsg04zBcOCatHGJMZZQdnka/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CQsZ0ZW7DC6nwornZZNsj2exP-HhPpWc/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WxtmXcRKLR1uHvggUaglJ7vdRlKBG-UP/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yu521LugHpd2D77N97WGmQCbVWIRRr2p/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dq05bMNzyse6byWClOLo8gXrWLohQ3vt/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1njxyhjYcf_ykMDS0pGu6zVltlugiCmer/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qkCy0Vjs5XDp4LSZ2dS7d5rJIfLO0s6l/view?usp=sharing

Very nice, congratulations.

Before leaving for Mallorca, can you post a photo of the "assembled" frame with fork, seatpost, and handlebars?

Thanks!

EDIT: Frame size?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: petrus on October 14, 2026, 03:03:31 AM
Quote from: crazyravr on October 09, 2026, 09:39:28 AM
Frame received. Much faster than expected. Ordered with custom painting Sept. 11th. Received Oct. 08.
Everything screams quality here from the communication to packing to paint and finishes. Based on this we will be ordering a Graro for my wife.
The bad news is that I am currently packing for a Mallorca trip and another is that I will wait until 11:11 to get a groupset :)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CQsZ0ZW7DC6nwornZZNsj2exP-HhPpWc/view


Regarding the BB area, do you plan to remove the paint from the BB outer face or are you assembling as it is?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on October 19, 2026, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: petrus on October 14, 2026, 03:03:31 AMRegarding the BB area, do you plan to remove the paint from the BB outer face or are you assembling as it is?

I plan to assemble as is and see what happens. The threads are clean and the pain in that area is perfectly applied. If there are no squeeks then I wont worry about it.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on October 19, 2026, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: Bonus79 on October 10, 2026, 04:32:12 AMVery nice, congratulations.

Before leaving for Mallorca, can you post a photo of the "assembled" frame with fork, seatpost, and handlebars?

Thanks!

EDIT: Frame size?

Size Large. I'm 188cm
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: Bonus79 on October 20, 2026, 04:23:53 AM
Quote from: crazyravr on October 19, 2026, 02:04:50 PMSize Large. I'm 188cm


One more question: I see that the "plate" for the seatpost clamp (which isn't the most attractive part) has 3 holes, but it seems to me that there are only two screws, and the center hole is left "empty."

Could you help me understand this?

Thanks a lot.

I can't wait to see the frame assembled.  ;)
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: lucasv on October 20, 2026, 07:05:11 PM
My custom painted frame should be coming soon. They are in the process of making a 350mm seatpost which is what I'm waiting for.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on October 21, 2026, 08:19:35 AM
In case anyone needs this. Torque specs.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: the_brain_mave on October 29, 2026, 02:26:17 AM
Quote from: crazyravr on October 19, 2026, 02:04:50 PMSize Large. I'm 188cm

Thx for the pictures. Does the weight for fork and frame includes the thruaxles?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on October 29, 2026, 09:42:06 AM
Quote from: the_brain_mave on October 29, 2026, 02:26:17 AMThx for the pictures. Does the weight for fork and frame includes the thruaxles?

Yeap. Exactly as shown / shipped and nothing is cut...... yet.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on November 02, 2026, 10:33:50 AM
Trying to decide Ultegra or the new E1 Rival for the groupset. Same $$$ thoughts?
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: MarioCanario on November 02, 2026, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: crazyravr on <strong>Today</strong> at 10:33:50 AMTrying to decide Ultegra or the new E1 Rival for the groupset. Same $$$ thoughts?
i personally run all bikes with SRAM for a while now, due to it's simplicity and button logic. but anrancee has a full ultegra group on offer for a little over 1k $
https://www.anrancee-cycling.com/products/shimano-r8170-2x12speed-di2-r8100-crankset-170mm-1725mm-11-30t-11-34t-cassette-for-road-bike-groupset.html (https://www.anrancee-cycling.com/products/shimano-r8170-2x12speed-di2-r8100-crankset-170mm-1725mm-11-30t-11-34t-cassette-for-road-bike-groupset.html)
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: crazyravr on November 02, 2026, 01:01:18 PM
Quote from: MarioCanario on <strong>Today</strong> at 10:41:00 AMi personally run all bikes with SRAM for a while now, due to it's simplicity and button logic. but anrancee has a full ultegra group on offer for a little over 1k $
https://www.anrancee-cycling.com/products/shimano-r8170-2x12speed-di2-r8100-crankset-170mm-1725mm-11-30t-11-34t-cassette-for-road-bike-groupset.html (https://www.anrancee-cycling.com/products/shimano-r8170-2x12speed-di2-r8100-crankset-170mm-1725mm-11-30t-11-34t-cassette-for-road-bike-groupset.html)

Many do and with the coupons its even less.
But other than my gravel bike, all else is shimano and I already get a bit confused by the shifting when riding SRAM vs shimano one after another lol
I guess I just talked myself out of SRAM. Now I just have to wait for a better coupon and maybe Rakuten to go back up to 20-30%.
Title: Re: New ICAN A54 AERO FRAME with 35 mm clearance
Post by: MarioCanario on November 02, 2026, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: crazyravr on <strong>Today</strong> at 01:01:18 PMBut other than my gravel bike, all else is shimano and I already get a bit confused by the shifting when riding SRAM vs shimano one after another lol
I guess I just talked myself out of SRAM. Now I just have to wait for a better coupon and maybe Rakuten to go back up to 20-30%.
i feel u. but progressed the other way around. always had shimano on the bikes, still have ultregra mechanical (which i still love) & dura-ace di2 (sold this week), in came xprl, force and sram red on my too many bikes. and i started riding around with a gazillion mishifts  ;D 

i slowly started to dislike the shimano shifting logic, plus the fidling with the di2 battery, its cables and the charging. fully wireless is the way to go IMO