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Re: FLYXII Gravel Build FR609 I purchased after watching some YouTube videos and the fact that FLYXII has been doing business over 15 years.  There is generally positive reviews of the FR602/603 as well and I wanted a frame that was a bit more current so I went with the FR609.
https://www.youtube.com/c/TraceVelo/videos

I've since found that this frame is also branded as the Workswell WCB-C-112, Miracle GR029, TanTan GR029, and a few others.  As well, it appears similar to the Bianchi Zolder but I don't see any perfect match among the major manufacturers.
http://m.miraclebikes.com/Product/detail/id/37.html

Here is a 10,000km review of the Workswell:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cyclocross/comments/91n17a/chinese_carbon_10000km_review/

Anyhow, I'm still waiting on the frame.  Due to COVID it was stuck in China for 2 months but is now in transit and should be here in a week or two.

P.S. I have added the frame to Geometry Geeks for those that want to compare:
https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/flyxii-fr609-2020-54,santa-cruz-stigmata-2019-54,cannondale-topstone-carbon-2020-md,giant-revolt-advanced-2020-m,bianchi-zolder-pro-disc-2020-54/
July 31, 2020, 12:47:18 PM 		1
Re: FLYXII Gravel Build FR609
Quote from: cst_jpr on September 08, 2020, 04:05:55 PM
Those are $1,300 wheels: https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/wheelsets/mtb/k-force-off-road-wider25-wheelset  Not really comparable to $600 china wheels. If you found them cheaper thats great though.
Did the frame arrive yet?

Not those ones... mine are from 2015 or 2016 I think.  I bought new from Chain Reaction.  So yeah, could have bought China carbon wheels for $600 but managed to get these instead.  https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ca/en/fsa-k-force-mtb-wheelset/rp-prod189664

Didn't get the frame yet.  I read (an opinion probably) that carriers aren't taking big bulky things they don't make much profit on.  Aliexpress refunded me on the frame already since it's way past the date.  Not sure if it will come, but I believe it hasn't been loaded on a flight wherever it is.  I ended up ordering another bike actually... the Vitus Substance CRS-2 which uses the Carbonda CFR696 frame and has GRX components (I'll likely just swap on my carbon wheels... and big flare gravel handlebar maybe).  I do hope this ones arrives, but I feel like I keep throwing money into the wind and hoping I get bike stuff.  It's beyond frustrating.  Especially since I also ordered a MTB frame form the UK which is lost somewhere in Canada for over a month.  Not a good time to be building bikes with overseas components.

This is the bike I ended up ordering by the way.  I got for the current price (30% off), so I think it's great value:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ca/en/vitus-substance-crs-2-adventure-road-bike-2020/rp-prod185535
September 08, 2020, 05:03:42 PM 		1
Re: FLYXII Gravel Build FR609
Quote from: cst_jpr on September 08, 2020, 06:18:03 PM
Good deal.

If it hasn't been loaded on a flight the seller probably tried to screw you and it will never show up, intentionally or not, don't know.
The frame I ordered Aug 5, shipped Aug 11, arrived in Canada Sep 3rd, now will sit in customs for 1-4 weeks then deliver.

Chainreaction stuff should come fairly quickly but they will ask for duties to be paid before delivery (14% + tax I believe) if you went with the cheap shipping method, if you went with the duty paid option you will pay about the same (for this bike) but it should arrive slightly faster via courier.


Yup, I have some experience in overseas logistics and Aliexpress haha.  COVID is unprecedented, but I figure things will arrive eventually.  I did order the frame from the official FLYXII store, so I would hope they didn't skip the shipment.  It's completely covered by Aliexpress anyway (and they were the ones who reimbursed me). 

I don't mind the odd 14% duty thing with Chain Reaction (or maybe 25% after fees)... I tend to try to place smaller orders and use the "this order MAY charge duties" option.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't (although lately, it seems there's duties every time).  For the wheels, I paid up front but for the chance I may not get charged and/or what I would get charged is probably less than the up front payment I think I would just chance it.

I did actually order another MTB wheelset from CRC... I got hit with duties from both shipments but it was about 40% less than what I would have paid CRC up front (maybe $15-20 service fee plus 14% of shipment value).  I'll take those chances any day.  For the complete bike I ordered, they wanted $685 up front.  I figure I would wait to see what the courier charges... I think probably $400-450 plus the $90 shipping which is about $150 less (or so).  Plus, the odds it somehow slips through and I don't get charged.

Cheers
September 08, 2020, 06:44:19 PM 		1