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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame Hi everybody.

So I'm going to start building my first bike, and the choice has fallen on the velobuild 168 frame, size 52.

The last few days I've been ordering the parts, and they should all arrive in 3 to 4 weeks.

Groupset is going to be Sram Force AXS with hydraulic disc brakes, and the wheelset is the Elitewheels Drive 50D.

Estimated weight 7.03 kg

Super excited to get started :D

August 22, 2022, 07:36:55 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Also, a carbon fork cannot be bent or crushed in shipping

A carbon fork either flex a little and goes back to original position

or breaks in half. I cannot be bent like alloy.
That's also the reason I would't try to put a wheel in that fork, even if it fits. Best case scenario it puts tremendous amount of pressure on the wheel and severely degrades the lifespan of the hub and bearings. Worst case, it snaps in half without warning.

August 23, 2022, 07:07:18 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
It's Chinertown's favorite know-it-all, reporting for duty...

-So I had a Kogel Bearings ceramic DUB to BB30 bottom bracket on my Allez Sprint for 6,500mi/10,500km before I sold the bike. The bearings still ran super smooth just as the first day I installed it. No issues with durability. The original reason for installing the Kogel BB was because the standard $50 SRAM DUB bottom bracket completely crapped out on me in less than 500 miles. I was actually warned by a few peers not to use the SRAM DUB BB and..well...$60 down the drain.

-I also now run a Kogel BB86 on my Winspace T1500. So far 1,700mi/2,700km and no issues. Kogel Bearings almost always offers a "free" set of oversized ceramic pulley wheels with every purchase of a ceramic BB. If not for the visual bling bling, this at least mitigates some of the cost of the BB.

-I also run Wheels MFG outboard BBs on all my other bikes (road/gravel/trainer). This in my opinion is the BEST value in bottom brackets on the market today for the price. One thing to note: People have a tendency to over-torque the pre-load adjuster on their crankset which not only prevents the bearings from running as smoothly as they should, but also will destroy the bearings faster than you realize. Just barely finger tight is all you need. Only just enough to remove any crankset play and not a degree turn more.

-Is a $200 bottom bracket worth it? Probably not, and especially not without a "free" set if pulley wheels. But you can actually feel the difference in smoothness when pedaling, albeit marginal. You can't go wrong with Wheels MFG though. They really specialize in that sort of thing.
I've also looked Wheels MFG as a good option, but the price for the BB86 DUB BB is very close to the C-Bears with ceramic bearings (120-140€). Don't know it the Wheels MFG are worth it at that price, it starts to go into premium territory.

August 30, 2022, 05:25:43 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame Thanks for the feedback. I'm going with the Sram DUB BB, they are cheap and it looks like they are reasonably reliable.

Upgraded the crankset to Sram Red, less 150 gr and looks sharp

August 31, 2022, 02:09:31 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Yes, replacement forks are on the way for free. Was going to post an update on the whole process when they arrived. The gist of it is that after some back and forth by email (it did take me a week to get my point accross), they sent me a new fork free of charge. I did get quite frustrated with the process, since I'm not sure why it took them so long to see that my fork was clearly not up to spec. In the end, if the new replacement fork is fine, it was not that bad.

I missed a cycling trip because of it (or actually this bike on a cycling trip), but that wasn't the end of the world.
That is great news. Nice to see that velobuild came through and solved the issue. That actually makes me much more confident in them.

My frame is already in EU, should arrive Monday. Can't wait.

September 15, 2022, 06:07:47 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame Hi guys. Just received my frame and it all looks good. Just one thing, did you get a crown race with the headset bearings? I didn't get one, and the fork doesnt have a 45⁰ angle to rest on the bottom bearing. Is it supposed to be like this?

Edit: talked to chris and it was supposed to be a crown ring in the headset kit. I ordered one here in the EU to get it quickly.

Also, I think I have a small play in the headset. Maybe I need to cut the fork a little more. If not, I'll order some micro spacers after I get the crown race in place.

September 19, 2022, 06:49:48 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-186
Not the person you were asking, but I got a similar setup (full sram rival), and it's the sram dub pressfit BB.

I keep reading mixed things about it, some say it's not reliable in theory because of smaller bearings, some say it lasted them forever. I'm expecting it wont last me as long as a BB for a 24mm spindle, but whatever.

I got the same BB. Its cheap, so if it fails it wont be too dificult to replace.

September 22, 2022, 01:37:04 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame It's done

Velobuild VB-R-168
SRAM Force AXS Disc 12v
Cassete 10-33
Crankset 46/33 - 165mm
Elitewheels Drive 50D
Pedals - Favero Assioma Duo
Tires Continental GP5000 Cream 25c
Tubolitos
Bartape Lizardskins 1.8mm
Garmin Edge 830
Garmin Varia RTL515

Weight: 7.6kg
(With pedals, garmin mount and bottle cages)

September 29, 2022, 03:27:35 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
I love the paint job! Looks awesome, nice job

Thank you. You can't really see how amazing the paint job really is in this photo. It’s a blue and purple chameleon with shinny specks that sparkle with the light. It’s gorgeous, really.

September 30, 2022, 05:54:55 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Ok fits, mine with ASX Red weighs 7.5 with pedals.
Costs €5000.
A great bike for the money, and on par with a SL7 Tarmac.
Equivalently I would have to spend over 10k.

Yes. I think Red is about 300g less than Force. I did however save a little weight on the wheelset (weight is 1300g, very light for 50mm depth), carbon saddle (115g), tubolitos (2x40g), tires (240g each), and bartape (50g).

September 30, 2022, 04:22:54 PM
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