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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Okay, now I am thoroughly confused. I emailed Chris and he says that the included integrated bars are the HB010 and that they have -17 angle.
I looked at http://www.velobuild.com/products/carbon-fiber-road-bike-integrated-handlebar-with-spacers-for-hidden-cables-routing
These bars (HB010) appear to have a two bolt clamp system. Was the HB010 updated at some point? It still has some forward sweep, I'm also not sure it is actually -17 deg...

Yes I think the very first HB010s that came out had the internal wedge system for tightening and it seems they quickly switched to two bolt.

Not sure about the specific angle for the stems however the HB011 feels like it a steeper more aggressive angle.

March 03, 2022, 10:33:40 AM
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Re: Any chinese frames using high modulus carbon like the real Specialized frames? The upcoming Elilee Blize will have an ultralight 680g variant constructed from a mixture of Toray T1100 and M40X. You also have the Dizo Epic Pro which is constructed from Mitsubishi MR70 and Dyneema. These two won't be cheap and they certainly won't they sit at that 2-3K US sweetspot. According to Elilee, T1100 costs 5x of T800 and M40X costs 10x of T800...you do the math. For reference Elilee's top level EVO XXE triathlon frame retailed at around 4.5K US in China. Finally you have the not-as-high-end Pardus Robin Evo that employs a mixture of T1100, T800 and M40 for its carbon layup.

Do note that carbon supply is massively constrained worldwide which means that there is next to no excess material left for no name brands. Since imported material is hard to come by and there are actually export restrictions placed on top level T1100 due to military applications, most open mould makers source their material from Sinofibers who produce T1000 and T800 domestically in China. Sinofibers has small batch T1100 & M40X equivalent material (ZT9 & ZM40X) on top of their recently commercialised T1000 but currently only T800 (ZT8) is mass produced and readily available. Besides Sinofibers, Tianshun produce T800 equivalent material (TS800) and are also working on their own T1000.

March 05, 2022, 12:30:47 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
Has anybody tried one of the SL7 direct mount mech hangers?

Something like this?

https://www.pedaleur.nl/product/specialized-tarmac-derailleurhanger-my18-my19/

This is such an oversight by Velobuild tbh. The 168 and 177 are clearly homages to Specalized designs so why not make the forks, seatposts and hangers the same as their name brand counterparts? it'll save a lot of hassle in the future when they're no longer produced and you need to find spare parts.

March 05, 2022, 01:17:25 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
They didn't set any ETA.  I ordered one week before Chinese New Year (they could have placed the order for the hub and spokes)
Assuming normal turnaround times for the frame, it's 7 days for painted frames (plus 15 holidays), by Feb 7 the frame should have been ready.
I did a followup on Feb 18, and Chris only mentioned the frame to be in the paint shop, and that he would keep me posted

Estimating one month delay on getting the spokes and hubs, the wheels should have been ready late February. 

We are now in 2nd week in March and no updates so far.
Just to update you guys,  Chris says they will ship this week.  The issue was getting the hubs

March 08, 2022, 08:05:38 AM
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Re: Pulled the trigger on the Elite Wheel DRIVE wheelset They arrived!

The set on the box I opened came in at 1,287g
It came with rim tape, levers, and a pair of cycling socks.
Valves were missing though. I've let the factory know

Its hard to capture the finish in a photo, but its somwhere between a leathery? and fibrous look to it.  However, it's subtle and hard to catch on some angles.  At some angles and lighting, it just looks glossy black.  In photos it just appears roughly textured, but in person it clearly looks smooth and slick

The hubs appear well-machined, and are titanium colored.
The hub body though, could benefit from a bite guard

They stickers for storefronts and a couple hideous 3XL polo shirts for the dealer (me)

March 25, 2022, 05:52:24 PM
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Re: Pulled the trigger on the Elite Wheel DRIVE wheelset Confirmed valves should have been sent, along with the manual (which i am assuming contains warranty info) 
I'm going to get Elite to send those bits along,  so I can forward them to whoever buys the wheels.

Also,  should have come in their slick new box (attached). I received the older boxes. Neither here nor there, but it would have been nice

March 26, 2022, 08:49:00 AM
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Re: Recommendations for a carbon saddle?
255g!  Yikes!

Yikes is right! Not sure I'd switch from my EC90 for that or 200g, unless it cracks on me again or I start to find it uncomfortable

March 29, 2022, 03:38:13 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame Hi guys. Nice to read so many opinions and people building this frame.
Just an update; after more than 3.000km, still very happy with this bike. No issues, all is running very well.

March 30, 2022, 04:17:56 PM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
Thanks for the reply. I have a few questions.

What did you use to cut the compression ring?

Did you use the deda spacers?

A picture would be great.

Sorry to take this long to reply.

I have not cut the compression ring yet, I just need to shave 1MM from the top, have no clue how I should cut it.

I used the Deda spacers.

I will post a video tomorrow of the setup and show you why the compression needs to be cut a bit

March 30, 2022, 07:56:36 PM
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Re: Yoeleo G21 - Yoeleo's New Gravel Frameset Looks amazing!
April 01, 2022, 02:14:45 AM
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