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Re: My TanTan TT912 build So i had a breaking-in spin last Wed evening at a small loop in industrial zone where i live in this 90% form. its comfortable in aero position, though due to the brake lever now a lil further to reach, it took a while to get used to it. by 23km, ratling got loud. the angle-riser got loose, whole right extension was moving around. called it a day.

1st impressions:
- friggin stiff.. this is my 1st ever carbon bike, n 2nd time ridden a carbon bike (1st was a rental bike in Jeju for round-island solo attempt, Gusto RCR on 23mm tires).
- maybe it felt so stiff coz i havent install bar tapes. but i think i need to put some paddings at the wrist area on the curved extension. on uneven road, my wrist n watch was rocking against the hard carbon
- i need to cut the saddle post more. the clamp mechanism really gave few extra cm height.
- i havent weighted my bike, but its heavy. maybe coz low tier components, oh well. at least it had momentum once it got to speed
- sketch in crosswind. to be expected is the tubes are so much fatter against my TCR
- braking with mech disc onirii+compressionless jagwire is good. the bite is gradual. comparable to my Giant Conduct hydraulics on my tcr. not sure whats the faff that mech+disc is crap. (granted my test is in dry on flats)
- sizing wise, stack n reach seemed fine, though the top tube height is a lil high for my liking ince i install the bento box. going one size down i may end with shorter reach as this frame inly have 100mm stem max

Sorted both angle riser with propper torque.
Now to fit my Xlab torpedo base plate, i had to extend my aero extension bar to max, and the clamp still dont sit properly. its the arm cup design as its not flat inside.
Also swapped to my Chiner Pro stealth saddle temporarily as its few cm lower

needs longer ride on the weekend.
its really a head turner lol  ;D


 

March 21, 2024, 05:27:06 PM
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Re: Rd270 + carbon spokes vs DT240 + sapim cxray
Is it noticeable because of the internal width or because of the tire width itself? The 35c (25mm IW) on my gravel bike feel really comfortable compared to 28c (21mm IW) but I always though it was because of the tire width and not IW.

It's the internal width that matters. The greater volume of air makes it act like a significantly wider tire.

I went from a 26mm wide/19mm internal wheel to a 33.3mm wide/ 25mm internal wheel using the same tires and the difference in çomfort was clear even when running at the same pressure. Further lowering the pressure made it dramatic.

March 21, 2024, 05:36:31 PM
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Re: Rd270 + carbon spokes vs DT240 + sapim cxray the old princetons that are just like the wave rims test pretty bad in the windtunnel and the vast majority of wheel stiffness comes from the spokes, the rim doesn't affect it much except fot a deeper rim meaning a wider bracing angle for the spokes
March 21, 2024, 08:49:27 PM
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Re: My TanTan TT912 build I still need to revisit the Versa BTA plate. its rocking against the arm cup, making annoying noises.
i will probably swapped the armcup to the ones on my Controltech aerobar kit on my TCR(currently the bolt is siezed).
swapped to my old  tcr giant approach saddle, since its lower stack. i may be in market for a short-nose saddle as my aliEx Pro Stealth saddle base getting soft n saggy

btw, this frameset used Sram UDH style hanger.

I finally got the bike completed, minus the temp crankset  8)
im a lil afraid to do bike photoshoot since its like a flag/sail, can topple at anytime when theres wind ::)

Frame: TanTan TT912 size52 + IceCrack blue paintjob
Stem: TanTan alu stem 100mm
Basebar: TanTan HB096 400mm
Aero extension: TanTan HB086 44° + 80mm w/ 15° angled riser
Brake lever: Tektro TL720
Saddle: Giant Approach  (from tcr)
Crankset: 105R7000 170mm (from tcr)
Chainring: 50/34T (from tcr)
PM: xcadey xpower2 left crank 170mm (from tcr)
BB: ztto bb386-24 normal bearing
Shifter: Microshift BS-A11
RD: 105R7000 SS
Cassette: 105R7000 11-28
Wheelset: Parcours Chrono 77/86
Rotors: 140mm MT-RT900
Caliper: Onirii BR005 mechanical

Looks awesome, well done!
The whole thing looks stiff indeed. That seatpost is scary, i dont see how anything can deflect, so good thing you have fat tyres and steel spokes and not carbon ones. Make sure you follow recommended PSI and dont go italian by putting 100psi in 32C tyres. I have italian friends, i stopped trying to explain to them that it makes no sense to over inflate big tyres. Good, big tyres at the right PSI completely change a bike.
Such a chonly boi will never be light, if you check out triathlon forums, you will see people's bikes are super heavy, comes with the territory.
The bike looks like a sail, for sure it's going to be awful in cross winds :) Be careful when you see trucks, you can get pushed or sucked in hard on something like that, try not to die.

Thanks for taking the time to post, it's great to see Chinese TT frames.
Currently im still on 28mm gp5k front n back. once the rear worn out, definately gonna fit in 32mm. the cockpit felt a lil better now with the bartapes.
Since i already have the frame, folks can just AMA  ;)

Really great to see updates on this, the price of TT bikes at the moment is painful. I would love to know the actual weight of this and if you manage to sort the rattling / things getting loose
in SG even 2nd hand tri bike market going at silly price for the age of the bike. my build(minus parcours wheelset) literally can get almost 2 new speedmax cf7 105 mech.
the headset rattling issue was sorted with the micro spacers that i forgot.
tomorrow i'll weight the bike

edit: it weights 10.3kg equipped as in pic. bta not yet attached.
heavy AF.
i did considered a lightweight build ala Sebastian Kienle Norseman Tri scott foil tt-cockpit, but decided to go proper tri frame geo

March 23, 2024, 11:21:42 AM
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Re: Velobuild VB-R-177 White 177 With old Ultegra Di2 and 55mm deep wheels
March 25, 2024, 01:11:39 PM
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Re: TanTan TT-X21 frame Hi everyone,

I'm refreshing this topic to show you my future bike!

This is my first experience with TanTan and I'm very satisfied with the service so far. I had very specific requirements for this turnkey bike, and Rose from TanTan was very helpful.  Here are the photos I received today.

Description :
TT-X21 custom paint Size 56
50mm carbon rims with Continental GP500
Shimano 105 Di2

They should ship it this week, I can't wait to receive it.

I will update as soon.

March 28, 2024, 11:28:40 AM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
1. You plan to route 4 housings through the bars & stem using this https://jagwire.com/products/diy-cable-kits/2017road-elite-link-brake-kit? Having routed 4 VB bikes with keb-sl housing (full internal), i really dont think it's possible, so very curious to see how you manage that.

2. If i had extra spacers like that under my stem, i'd probably run an extra long plug expander to spread the forces over the widest possible area. Leverage is a thing, so if you hit a bad pothole, you're at a materially higher chance of cracking the steerer if you run tall chimneys like that. That's also going to add another sharp bend to the routing.

3. so the frame is 1060g and they advertise 950g. Did you ask if the 950 is a raw carbon weight? Primer & paint done by VB is going to add weight, idk if it adds 100g, sounds like a lot, but I'd say >50g. At which point a 50g variance is 5% of the advertised weight, i guess it's within spec? When you order rims, if it weights 460g, the seller typically says +/- 15g, and a rim is a lot less intricate than a frame.

My built is finally finished. At the end I opted for only twoo of largest spcers, one from my extra spacer kit (I know, its the same hight, but less hassle).
When I tried to assemble the handlebar with the 4 cables I quickly gave up the idea of using my used link cables. The thight space in the handlebar lead to gaps between the links, so I ripped it out and used the jagwire road kits instead.
I don't like how velobuild routed the cables underneath the stem. They dont run internally, inside the stem, but underneath of it in a canal. So there is a even tighter bend between the fork and the handlebar. I even had dificulties running the inner cables through the housing when reaching the bend. They got stuck, and I had to loosen the handlebar again.
It would have been better if the cables run inside the stem. They would have more space for the a bend with a biger radius.
It was a big hassle, but at the end everything is working well.
7,8 kg with Sensah Empire pro, onirii/iiipro cable/hydro disc brakes and elite edge wheels.

March 30, 2024, 03:04:56 PM
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Re: TanTan TT-X21 frame Mine!  8)
April 01, 2024, 04:45:57 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
My first look video is live on the channel.

YouTube Search: Velobuild 268 First Look - My excitement for budget frames has returned
https:// youtu.be/SKZo17VVuEk?si=lfH6xQdDkYU3oMDy

https://youtu.be/SKZo17VVuEk?si=lfH6xQdDkYU3oMDy

Thnx Pat! Not a great fan of the color, but really looking forward to your build, especially regarding the routing of the cables around the headtube/fork.

April 02, 2024, 08:23:49 AM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
My first look video is live on the channel.

YouTube Search: Velobuild 268 First Look - My excitement for budget frames has returned
https:// youtu.be/SKZo17VVuEk?si=lfH6xQdDkYU3oMDy

https://youtu.be/SKZo17VVuEk?si=lfH6xQdDkYU3oMDy

As someone who currently runs a 140 stem on his setup and wants to see that fsa 69 headset on this frame, get to work! i need to see if it looks good or not ;)

April 03, 2024, 05:43:36 AM
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