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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Short update:
I did my first 50km ride today with best weather.

It was great and the bike feels amazing.

The only thing I have to get used to is the Free hub sound.
As it is a 36T Ratchet system, the sound is not "round". It's a little alternating which seems to be normal with ratchet Free hubs. But for me it sounds not so nice. Maybe I'll put more grease inside to get it less loud  :D

It's LCs C52DB-RD28-44C wheel set.

I'm being very picky here...

May 26, 2024, 11:57:53 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
When I initially inquired LC about this frame, their response started with the following:

"LCR017-D is our latest bike frame and our frame designers also take the advantages of Cannondale SuperSix EVO."

If you're advertising your flagship road frame in this manner, how the heck did their engineers forget to include a proper Di2 port? Especially when my Yishun frame from their sister company included one. That is quite the oversight.

 Product could've been so much better with three dollars of oversight and quality control.  Guess the consumer is the unpaid test pilot

May 28, 2024, 06:37:08 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame First of two 268 builds now complete.
This one is a chameleon silver in size 54 for a friend.

Groupset: Shimano 105 Di2 R7150, 11-34, 50/34, 172,5 cm with 160 cm rotors.
Saddle: Ryet Carbon 3D-printed mesh-saddle
Wheels: Elite Edge Gravel 45 mm (internal 24 mm, external 31 mm)
Tyres: Continental GP 5000 in 28 mm (meassures 29,5 on the rims)
Tubes: RideNow TPU (36g each)

Complete build 7,75 kg w/o pedals.

June 02, 2024, 02:42:33 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) My frame also arrived last week and I build it up in around two days. I‘m pretty happy with the outcome. Yesterday I had a short shakedown ride and have to adjust the FD and front break. Just some random things I noticed:

  • The frame looks shiny, so I‘m inclined to think it has some form of clear coat on it. But I‘m no expert, so I could be wrong.
  • I purchased a ZTTO T47 68mm DUB BB, which came with two spacers (2mm labeled „road“ and 4,5mm labeled „MTB“). I was only able to install the Rival crank with the „MTB“ spacer on the drive side. There is no notable play in the cranks and they spin ok. Although I‘m not sure, whether this is installed according to spec. Anyone else installed a dub crank on this frame and remembers which spacers he used?
  • The brake hoses were fairly easy to route through the integrated cockpit. However, the internal foam housing damping went up the downtube and created a creaking, when turning the bars so I had to remove the cranks and pull down the foam tube. Now I just get the slightest cable noice when turning the bars.
  • For the installation of the rear Rival brake callipers you need 32mm Flat Mount bolts. 27mm are too short and 37mm are too long. I installed 37mm and used 5mm washers as a temporary solution.
  • In both the Rival callipers the pistons had to be mobilized as one piston was stuck. Then the breaks could be mounted properly, the surfaces on frame and fork seemed phased.
  • There are no grommets included to close the holes in the frame when using wireless shifting.
  • The FD was rubbing in the big ring for a lot of the gears, I ll have to look into it and make sure, this is just an adjustment issue and not connected to the installation of the BB.
  • There is a tiny imperfection in the paint job of which I was informed by LC before shipping and I was asked whether I‘m ok with it or whether I wanted it fixed (further delaying the process). I was ok and received a free bottle cage and mech hanger. Couldnt find any other imperfections so I‘m well happy on how they played this.
  • The hubs are super quiet. Pedestrians wont hear you coming on these ;)
  • Shipment was delayed a couple of times.

I will report back, when I have a few more miles in.

June 03, 2024, 02:55:37 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame Hey guys new build coming soon. This will be my first build after lurking here for some time. I finally decided to build a chinese carbon bike because I wanted a new bike that will make me want to ride more(my current one is Orbea Avant alloy rim from 2015). It will be my first build and it will be with mechanical groupset mix ultegra and some from aliex. I know that it will be painful but I hope I can do it. Wheels from Leon at Yuanan 45mm deep.
June 06, 2024, 08:04:08 AM
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Re: Winspace T1550 new frame? Because size M makes absolutely no sense in the rest of the range and leaves a gaping hole where an actual M frame should be
June 11, 2024, 08:01:01 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
Are these VB bars? They look kind of open on the underside, would that be enough to detach the cockpit and tape it to the side of the frame for travel? I'm looking for such an option.


I think they are VB bars. I have relatively little slack in my hydro hoses but it's enough to take off the bars when I need to put the bike in a travel bag without issue (spacers need to come off).

June 12, 2024, 01:58:27 PM
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Carbon Speed Gravel Frameset Giveaway!
Carbon Speed GR-01 Gravel Frameset Giveaway!



It's been a while since our last giveaway so I'm happy to announce that Peter and Carbon Speed Bikes have volunteered to sponsor a giveaway of a new gravel carbon fiber frameset!

The frame up for grabs is Carbon Speeds's GR-01 carbon fiber gravel frameset. See full details on Carbon Speed's website: http://www.xmcarbonspeed.com/Productinfo.asp?f=1639

All you have to do to enter for a chance to win is meet the following three criteria:

1) Be an existing member of this site as of the date of this post and have at least 10 posts.
2) Have an image uploaded to your Chinertown user profile.
3) Be willing to leave an honest review on this forum once you've had a chance to test out the product.


That's it! Just post a reply in this thread containing the word "enter" and you will be entered into the drawing so long as you've met those three criteria.

In 3 weeks time, this thread will be closed, and a winner will be chosen at random. That member will then pay just the shipping fees to Peter and the frame will be shipped out in whatever size needed.

This thread will be closed end of day Thursday, July 4th. Good luck to all those that enter and thanks to everyone that participates here at Chinertown!

Thanks to Peter and Carbon Speed for sponsoring this givewaway! If you want to get in contact with Peter his contact email is: petercycles@foxmail.com and you can check out their products on the website: http://www.xmcarbonspeed.com/

June 12, 2024, 09:12:31 PM
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Re: Seka Spear
I've been wondering why I have not been able to hit the sort of speeds on descents with my current bike compared to bikes in the past (I had taken a break from cycling for about 5 years). I weigh about 10 lbs more, my kit is much more aero nowadays, my helmet is aero, my wheels are 45mm deep instead of 25-28mm depth, my bike weighs about 3 pounds more, I typically carry a lot more food and water and I'm still not hitting the speeds I had been. Learning about the differences in Chinese geo vs Western geo yesterday when reading about these frames made me realize the frame I'm on now is much more 'western' and the frames I had been riding previously were Chinese geo. So all those new advantages in weight, equipment aero are nothing compared to the more aggressive body position Chinese frames will put you in. Something I found interesting. I'm typically topping out at 4-5mph less on many of my regular descents in a tuck now vs a tuck then.

The "race bikes" of today are basically the same exact geometry as "endurance bikes" of 10 years ago. The new SL8 is extremely close to the 2012 Roubaix in geo.

Just to point out, the prevailing trend is to fit higher stack, longer reach, narrower handlebar, minimum saddle setback, shorter cranks. Basically to try and achieve the same (or more aggressive) hip angle as you'd get from the old slam-that-stem bike-fit, but move the arms and hands further up to make the aero hoods position easier. (see Victor Campenaerts's latest Orbea Orca video)

I've been racing for 16 years and have adopted the new fit trends, and can attest that since then I'm typically topping out 1-2mph higher, and easily setting PRs on flatter/rolling segments, despite being fatter and slower than I was a few years ago before making these changes on my new bike. If you find yourself going slower on a modern bike I really suggest you go over your handlebar position and try to get longer and narrower.

My Seka's Exceed geometry has a fairly high stack (although is now actually quite normal compared to Cannondale's S6E, or the Tarmac).But a big knock I'll give it is the short reach and relatively laid back seat tube angle. To achieve the "modern" bike fit, I have struggled to fit a properly long stem, and have to slam my saddle all the way forward on a zero-setback seatpost. The Spear seems to have at least addressed these two shortcomings with slightly longer reach and steeper seat tube.

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Have to wonder how much of these new crop of "high dollar budget" frames are just dumping loads of cash into presentation/marketing/website and are basically the same deal as other frames more in the 700-900 dollar range.

As a Seka owner that's fairly active on the WW thread, I'm convinced you're paying for higher quality finishing kit, paint, warranty, and a genuinely better frame. Better doesn't mean perfect--I indeed am one of the people who suffered from the loose seatpost issue, as well as an unrelated frame-creaking issue that required warranty replacement. Take a look at Ribble, similar price-point, but there's a well-known WW thread documenting some pretty terrible quality issues.

If you look at the competition there really aren't many/any options offering a 700g aero-optimized/tested standalone frame at this price point. My big concern is that the price point is getting so high that you might as well buy a domestic name-brand frame. Building up a Spear with Ultegra Di2 would run something like $6000-7000? You can get a new Cannondale S6E with Ultegra for less. I think Seka realizes this, which is why I believe Seka isn't pushing hard on selling in the western market.

June 13, 2024, 12:10:32 PM
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Re: Winspace T1550 Build
Here is my T1500 w/ D67 Hyper Wheels. Over 2 years of use and still probably my favorite bike. Mechanical shifting Ultegra R8020 has been absolutely flawless. Elilee OSPW system...now out of production  >:(

Pat now has depression over the changed geometry in the 1550 2.0

June 17, 2024, 06:13:10 AM
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