Thanks, I do think you can use some carbon spokes with standard hubs but I may be mistaking.
In any case I hope you get to test the wheels out and report back, I might copy the setup for my Venge (2020 model).

My long teng 268 ticks all these boxes. And it's officially very fast, says me.

Thanks for this detailed input, Serge — your take adds a lot of nuance and clarity to the discussion.

You’re absolutely right to draw the line between ultra-light, high-performance, race-day-only frames and the kind of dependable bikes most of us want to ride daily without a second thought. That distinction often gets blurred, especially when people chase weight savings without fully appreciating the compromises that come with it. The comparison to F1 cars is a good one — cutting-edge, but not necessarily built for longevity or the wear and tear of everyday use.

Also appreciate you highlighting the insider view on S-Works and previous Pinarello practices. It’s easy to get dazzled by the marketing and pro endorsements, but reliability often takes a back seat in that world — literally, in some cases, judging by the stories of cracked frames in car trunks.

Unfortunately, I am a bit of a weight weenie myself — however, I don’t sacrifice performance or reliability in pursuit of lower grams. There’s a line, and I do my best to stay on the right side of it.

Your point about friends and trust hit home, too. Ultimately, a frame isn’t just carbon and resin — it represents confidence, responsibility, and safety for the people we ride with.

Why isn't TanTan/Seraph releasing this frame with UDH?
I've been considering it as a backup, but every time I think they're surely about to add UDH support.
It's such an obvious update, especially since they're are releasing so many other frames with UDH.
I don't get it.