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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
I'm 100kg in weight, and 187cm tall, and I'm looking at the 58cm size. I'm planning to do a lot of sprint training on my new bike, and I'm wondering whether I'm risking my collarbone and teeth trying to save 500 dollars. While I'm still waiting for delivery of my frameset and wheels, I would just caution you selecting this frame based on your weight and intended use. This is a claimed "superlight" frame, and I would be hesitant to go with that frame and rather go with a more beefy frame. I'm no lightweight myself at around 85kg, but I'm not planning to subject the bike to super heavy loads, rather just general road bike exercise (no races). But, as mentioned, i've not yet been able to use the frame so maybe others can chime in with more real-world experience. December 01, 2024, 01:53:38 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
While I'm still waiting for delivery of my frameset and wheels, I would just caution you selecting this frame based on your weight and intended use. This is a claimed "superlight" frame, and I would be hesitant to go with that frame and rather go with a more beefy frame.Down the thread there was a discussion about two versions of the frame: super light and normal, they have 100 kg and 120 kg weight limit. IIRC, they do not offer normal version anymore but I suggest @Maozi to contact LC directly and ask if they have regular version. I've had some 'cracking experience' with LC before (check Saint Piran UCI stickers thread), specifically LCR0X, and upon further investigation my local carbon repair guy told me the failed area (top tube, where seat post clamp seats in) was poorly reinforced for the expected load. It was eventually fixed and not a critical failure, but it is not pleasant to drop off your main racing bike for over a month. Luckily, it was the end of the season already... December 01, 2024, 04:48:49 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
While I'm still waiting for delivery of my frameset and wheels, I would just caution you selecting this frame based on your weight and intended use. This is a claimed "superlight" frame, and I would be hesitant to go with that frame and rather go with a more beefy frame. It seems that LC's quality control department has been on an extended vacation. It might be worth the extra money if you're interested in saving your face and collar bone from any down time or permanent rearrangement. If I could do it again I would definitely stay away December 01, 2024, 06:39:30 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
I'm 100kg in weight, and 187cm tall, and I'm looking at the 58cm size. I'm planning to do a lot of sprint training on my new bike, and I'm wondering whether I'm risking my collarbone and teeth trying to save 500 dollars. Welcome! I've cycled with a lot of people, I can't think of many guys who were 100kg. Point being: you are very much an outlier at that weight. 2 consequences: as advised above, it's probably not advisable to buy a very lightweight frame. The thing is, you'd probably be fine, but if you're not, you'll end up paying for it in ways that retrospectively you'll feel were silly for the 100g of weight saved. Second, tyre clearance. Enjoying the bike is directly linked with comfort, even if nobody really wants to hear that. At that weight, honestly, I'd advise you run bigger tyres than 32C. And so, if you want to look watch YouTube content, the videos on the latest endurance/ all road bikes by Ribble may help. And Pirelli launched 35 and 40C slick tyres and they said they can't make enough of them, they fly off the shelves. So I'd suggest you look at long teng 301, for example. From the top of my head I can't think of too many road bikes that can take 35C or more, without becoming gravel bikes. I'm 80-84kg. 20 extra kilos is a LOT of weight without adjusting carbon materials, tyre volume and so on. So, ultimately, get something that clears (way) more than 32C for comfort, and confirm with the factory that at your weight, they have no reservations. What matters is that you enjoy your time on the bike, safely. December 01, 2024, 08:50:23 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Going back to the topic and answering the user, with 1.90 having 100kg is not that much. I am around 90kg and have a 58 LCR017. I'm not doing jumps with it or anything. It works fine, as one would expect. I don't think 10kg extra would make any difference. In any case you can ask them and maybe get the "standard" version instead of the "superlight" one. Take everyone's opinion (good or bad) brand, or personal, with a pinch of salt. December 03, 2024, 09:55:22 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Public shaming works. The visible livelihood of a lot of these brands rests in the hands of positive reviews. Watch them sing a different tune (or just ghost you) once you've taken your critiques public. Example 1 Couple years ago Elite Wheels told me my channel wasn't large enough to be sent wheels for review. Very fair assessment and I respected their descision. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. A month later, one of their auth dealer sent me a set of wheels on the shop's own dime to promote their local shop. In that video I mentioned how Elite Wheels didn't want to work with me for being too small. Three weeks later I had Elite sending me messages to send products. Even at the expense of cannibalizing sales/promos from their own dealer network. Example 2 I've made videos in the past speaking on Yoeleo's poor customer service and fulfillment times during the pandemic. Basically saying stay away from them. Some of my local buddies ended up canceling their orders after waiting 9 months for wheels/frames. I pretty much wrote them off. But this year they came back swinging for the fences. And according to several recent customers they have been doing a good job with service. Example 3 While Craft Racing Works 50/60 are among my favorite set of wheels, I've mentioned how they aren't great in crosswinds. When I say this publicly usually one of CRWs paid handlers enter my comment section (or privately) to defend them with "Well I don't have problems with crosswinds." Okay cool, but I do... Example 4 Giant refused to honor my warranty for a cracked steer tube. In my initial email to them I specified that I'm aware of any financial implications incurred on my side. I just wanted my fork replaced. They told me kick rocks. So I made a video highlighting my dilemma. Didn't even bash Giant as a brand. Literally 2 days later they sent another email magically stating they'll cover everything at no cost to me. While I was a full price paying customer, are we to assume they would have done the same had I not had a social media presence? Who knows... Candid conversations with good faith intentions of holding brands accountable is one thing. Bad faith greivences are another. While some of the comments in here could be a bit scary for new customers/members, I can't say they've been rooted in bad faith. And if these brands do in fact lurk the comment section, nothing is stopping them from chiming in like like Peter does/did with wheels. Or Eddie with Tideace. Because doing right by your grassroot supporters is a good business model. December 03, 2024, 11:27:50 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
One of the benefits of living in a western democracy is being able to voice opinions without fear or favor. Pleaser, get a reality check: only the US allows to voice an opinion devoid of factuality. Most EU countries have a form of censorship around bullshit (and especially hate speech, but it is another question). Freedom of speech mainly exists in the US as a constitutional right, and it has been weponized to promote BS and quackery… Finally, there is a difference in a constructive feedback (even shared publicly) and a bad faith relentlessness to bad mouth a company. I am not saying LC is perfect, but we should hold LC to the same standard as the other brands and we do accept defects in all products [high end luxury watches (my mother was repairing 200k+ USD Swiss watches), cars, or Boeing planes for that matter, do you still fly them?], the question is which rate of failure can we infer. Having a witnesses only encompass the absolute count of bad stories and fails to consider all the successes. But don’t get me wrong, it is really bad to send defect(ish) frames to clients and should be avoided at all costs, but there are enough videos of western brand being ashamed by Hambini for their construction and we fail to hear about all those the mechanics despise as well. Let’s not forget as well as negative reviews surfaces more often than positive ones, creating a bias. So let’s balance a bit: - There are many positive reviews in their EU website [probably really biased xD] - More objectively, many small brands sold their previous flagship (LCR-0XD) and these frames got stellar reviews. Even Mercedes is selling their frame - A UCI professional team used their frames for a season almost unnoticed. - Hambini would have been happy to ream their frames if they were shit (and could have done it twice) [although I can’t tell if he was paid or not, but in good faith, let’s say he was not). Personally, I am a Swiss and would love to afford the Teammachine R from BMC, even after Hambini review of one of their frame. Shit happens, and it could be just bad luck [a single individual (disohonest or sick) in the chain did not the job properly) or a systemic issue [the whole company had shitty production policies, consumer support policies]. We should remain in good faith and gather more evidence before making shitty conclusions. Today at 12:36:17 AM |
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