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SL 8 clone As there is a topic on the SL 8 from Tantan but many people are talking about other sellers, I decided (as suggested by Serge) to create another topic which will allow us to talk about other sellers.

For my part, I bought the frame in size 54 from CarbonCycleGear store on Aliexpress:

https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/1103601241

The frame weighs 869g (white paint included) and the fork 355g.

Communication with the seller is really perfect. He answers all questions even after receiving the frame.

I haven't been able to ride the bike yet but the quality looks really excellent as shown in the photos.

If you want other photos, don't hesitate to ask.

In short, there are certainly plenty of good sellers (and many less good ones) but I highly recommend this one.

I will keep you informed of the progress of the bike construction.

Feel free to ask anything.

DIsclaimer : I am not a expert of carbon nor a pro rider :D.

February 03, 2025, 12:12:46 PM
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Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
Finally have build back of F-C Ostro V1 and the final tally is 6.8kg with all goods attached except the rear light/mount.

Ostro V1 Tier 3
DuraAce 9200 groupset with 165mm cranks
carbon bottle cages
90x400 bars
Favero PM pedals
BB Infinite T47A bottom bracket
Winspace Hyper 45s early gen models

weather here is way too cold so no ride report yet.

You can't drop this here without photos ;D Any insights from the mechanic?

February 03, 2025, 12:51:24 PM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes? When I get my frame from Tantan (hopefully at the end of February), I'll post some pictures taken inside the frame with an endoscope camera.
February 03, 2025, 02:34:55 PM
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Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM I just couldn't help myself, bought one of these too. I bought through the "RK Ultra Extreme Carbon Fiber Store". Overall good communication, polite, and easy to work with. Seems like they are just a dealer working with the factory. Received pictures of everything prior to shipment, and photos of other frames before ordering (for what its worth).

Paid $1100 CAD ($760 USD) all in for regular weight, passed on the lightweight version

Weights (size 56):
Frame: 1154g
Fork: 471g

We'll see how it goes, I have a set of custom Wheelsfar hypers on the way, a Lexon DUB crank, and an Ultegra Di2 group on the way.
















February 05, 2025, 11:58:12 PM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes? Here you have photos of the assembly of the Tantan SL8. I will send more photos soon.
February 06, 2025, 04:57:59 AM
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Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM At this point now I'd probably order a replica Factor Ostro versus an SL8 clone from TanTan lol
February 06, 2025, 09:50:55 AM
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Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
Hi all,
How the hell do you adjust the saddle inclination on this seat tube when the saddle does not have the hole ?
I cannot strenghthen the anterior bolt.
This kind of seatpost is the same on TanTan and Taiwaneisen and identical to SL8.
Thanks!

Here's a video on how to do it on a real SL8. Not sure if you have the same bolts.



Maybe my link won't show up. Here's what to add after youtube dot com: /watch?v=Gr57XWk4FBY&t=592s

February 14, 2025, 03:25:36 PM
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Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM Hey All,

Just wanted to update that I tried the stem on steerer again yesterday and it went together ok, so I don't think there's an issue - it's just snug.  Maybe my frameset is acclimating.  8)  Thanks to all who offered advice on this.

Some have asked to see pics of my frameset, and I will do that, but for now you can see it here on RK's store:

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807990587185.html

BTW, mine is a size 56 (as pictured). 

The black part of the frame is actually raw.  My plan is to do some custom decals and maybe a coat of clear on the decals and raw sections, just to give it some protection.   

February 23, 2025, 02:19:06 PM
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Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
Any idea on prices of their painting of the bikes?

I'm pretty confident that's the same person as F-C now after seeing the Chinarello's as well. Painting is usually included and you just pick the tier 1/2/3.

February 25, 2025, 01:06:40 PM
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Re: Replica Factor Ostro VAM
Yep... And that goes back to my thread about not buying fakes because of how shady the whole thing gets the moment you start asking questions... If i spend 500$ on a frame, I ask questions. If i am asked to shell $1000, i ask even more questions :)

I see where you're coming from, and I understand why you hold that perspective.

You're likely looking for technical details, but that depends on whether the sellers are directly involved in manufacturing or just third-party resellers. For the same reason, my local seller probably couldn't answer detailed questions about frame production. Even with well-known Western brands, you'd likely not get more than, "that's proprietary information." I get that those brands have already built a certain level of trust. But when buying a frame from Asia, there’s always some degree of risk. You never really know if the answers you get are accurate or just what the seller thinks you want to hear anyway - and that applies not only to those selling fakes (e.g. Winspace telling the guy that the disgusting BB is ok is a good example)

My perspective is much more cynical - I am suspicious of the answers regardless of the seller. Perhaps it's the experimental scientist in me, but ultimately all we can rely on is empirical testing and first-hand experience with a reasonable sample size is what really matters imo. At the end of the day, it all comes down to how much of a gambler you are.

Edit: That is why people like Pat above are such a fantastic resource

February 26, 2025, 02:39:16 PM
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