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Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
Quote from: simonwood1337 on January 05, 2025, 06:54:41 AM
The official max tire clearance is listed as 45mm. In your experience, is the actual clearance typically larger? Do you think a true 48mm tire could fit without issues? Also, do you happen to know how wide the downtube is - so it "replaces" a mudguard if its muddy :) ?

I'm running 2.1" Thunder Burts on mine (51mm measured). There's obviously not much clearance - slightly less than 3mm - but it hasn't been a problem yet. I'm running 2x and had to swap the Ultegra FD for a GRX to get a bit more clearance.

IIRC, the downtube measures 50mm wide. However, i run the new Speedrocker XL 52mm clip-on mudguards. Very happy with them.
January 06, 2025, 08:11:30 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro There is a minimum 5mm of space all round with the 47mm tracers which is plenty for fire-track roads and far more space than I had on my TCX with 42mm pathfinder tyres in and they worked perfectly without any clogging issues

From my experience of muddy CX races if the course is claggy it really doesn't matter how much space you have between the tyre and frame, mud will fill it eventually
January 27, 2025, 06:09:56 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro Here you go, there is 2-2.5mm space between the chainring and chainstay, I'll probably add another 0.5mm to the chainset once I've got everything dialed.

From memory I had about 3mm gap when it was set up 2x with a 50-34( I think I mentioned the gap in an earlier post)

I measured the gap between the tyres and frame and even with the increase in tyre width to 51mm I've still got 4mm of space each side, which surprised me
June 03, 2025, 09:13:32 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro Here's another picture from a different angle
June 03, 2025, 09:14:39 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro Here's my final set up and build details

Shimano GRX di2 11 speed,
GRX brakes
46-11 cassette
XT derailleur
46t Stone chainring on rotor 3d30 cranks
Carbonal gravel wheels with 29mm internal
Specialized Terra , 47mm measured at 50mm
Bontrager RSL 35/38 cm bars
Look S track pedals
Deda zero1 stem
Pro Falcon saddle
Leyzene cages
June 12, 2025, 09:44:06 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro Hey,

I've just ordered this frame last week and still undecided on the parts I want to build on. I have a Shimano GRX825 list and a SRAM Force/Rival E1 list. Price wise and logically (lot of hills and also fast flat gravels/roads around here) the Shimano would be the right choice for me, but I would also like to try out the SRAM groupset (never used one before). Also still not sure if 2x12 or 1x13 but that is just a different question.
The only issue I encountered with the Shimano build is the bottom bracket. This would be my first bike build and I know that the size would the T47i-24 85,5mm. Maybe I'm just blind but I can't find any option for this BB that doesn't cost hundreds of euros.
Does anyone has a recommendation, or experience with Shimano compatible BBs for this frame?

Thanks!
July 07, 2025, 02:23:45 PM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
Quote from: wuerziberg on July 07, 2025, 02:29:33 PM
hi,

cannot help you on the groupset question, but regarding the BB: I'm using this Miche one (https://www.bike24.de/p1896011.html), which is okay price wise and spins extremely well. So I'm very happy with it and doesn't cost a kidney.

Hey,

Thanks for the recommendation! This is actually the same one I came across, but I couldn’t find much information on it. If you’ve had a good experience with it, I’m happy to go with this one too.
July 08, 2025, 07:33:39 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro What's your chainline currently? Do this: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html#:~:text=Chainline%20is%20measured%20from%20the,middle%20of%20the%20chainring%20teeth, except instead of taking the middle of the downtube take the average of the distance to the nearest and furthest point on the downtube.

It's true you'll either need more spacers or a less-offset chainring, but you shouldn't need to get to 49.7. SRAM wide is 47.5 and 42T should fit with that since the frames official clearance is 42. My current chainline is right about that 49.7 and I'm running a 50T, so you definitely need less than that.
August 27, 2025, 04:33:55 AM 		1
Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro Hey everyone,

I also finished my bike. Got the frame back in july, but had some other things before I could start the building. Also this is a bike that is a first for me in a lot of aspects, first carbon frame, carbon wheels, electrical shifting, 1x, and the first that I've built by myself.

Groupset: SRAM Rival E1 XPLR
Wheels: Elitewheels SLR Gravel 45mm depth
Tyres: Continental Terra Speed 40mm (for now, I had it as a spare. Planning to get a 45mm Pathfinder.)
Casette: SRAM Rival 10-46
Chainring: SRAM Rival E1 42T
Handlebars: Ican Blade-G

The biggest issue I encountered were the UDH hole in the frame was a bit undersized, I had the remove some paint there so the bushing could fit. Otherwise everything fits together nicely and it rides awesome. Had some anxiety on the first ride, eventhough I double checked every screw with 2, newly calibrated torque wrenches.
If anyone thinking about this frame I can easily recommend it! Also the full ordering process was smooth, Peggy answered all my questions quickly and I've received a status update about the frame with pictures during the whole process
October 03, 2025, 03:16:48 AM 		1
Evolve Cima ML- Rewind Hey all. I haven’t seen to much about the Evolve Cima. Thought I’d put this out there for interested parties.

Finally got the first ride on my new Cima today. Size ML.
I did a mid grade build with some stuff I had and some new parts. Rival E1 shifters and older D2 RD and FD.

Frame - 777g  with hanger
Wheels -1319g with valves and tape -Elite wheels Drive 2 50d.
Bars -335 - Krueza 120mm x 40mm wide
Post - 156g 380mm x 10mm offset
Cassette - 309g force 10-36
Crankset w/ power meter - 705g Force 165mm with XCADEY PM and D2 force chainrings 48/35
Rotors - 146g x2  i dont remeber. Sram I think? 
Tires - 279g x2 Vittoria Corsa Tubetype 30mm
15.5lbs with pedals, cages, garmin mount. 

Frame was immaculately packaged. The users manual is excellent. All the spare parts were well packed and organized. Definitely feels high quality. The frame is beautiful. Perfect paint. Well threaded and faced BB and brake mounts. Etc. build up was simple enough. Internal routing was simple besides me crossing the brake hoses and setting them up Euro style by accident at first. The angles of the exit points on the bars are annoying but not insurmountable with a good pick and some finesse.

First ride. The bike feels like a rocket. Stiff but responsive. Climbs very well. Unfortunately it was 28 degrees today in NY so I couldn’t give it the juice on the descents. I am a bit nervous about its descending. The handling is very different than my 54cm SuperSix Evo 3. You can see how steep the head angle is. The front tire is almost touching the downtube. Front center is very short. I’m hoping it can stay composed at high speed descents.

Overall very happy with the bike so far. Pics attached.
January 03, 2026, 07:19:29 PM 		1