Re: Assisting Force AF01
mine delayed to about mid-November, waiting for the livery to be done. Should be the first size xl i guess…
November 12, 2025, 11:21:16 PM
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Re: Assisting Force AF01
Mine arrived yesterday! It took a month between the day it was shipped (China) and the day I received it (France). The box arrived in poor condition due to the carrier in my country...
The frame is really beautiful in daylight. It won't be assembled until after the holidays, but the first test for large wheels seems to fit (about 0.6 mm on the sides).
Planned assembly: AF-01 Standard Frame size M Seatpot Assisting force Canwin Aelous 400*700 SRAM XPLR 1X13 Groupset Elitewheels gravel aero+ 45mm wheels Schwalbe G-One RX Pro 50 mm tyres
December 18, 2025, 02:05:23 PM
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My frame is finally done with paint and should be shipped soon. Looks exactly like what I wanted, so I’m pleased. Hopefully I can strip down my old frame and build this one up in time to get some riding in before the weather becomes too bad in the mountains.
December 23, 2025, 11:19:37 AM
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Well, looked what just showed up about 90 minutes ago...


Complete album here: https://imgur.com/a/af01-pics-QMrbsyw
I didn't get a tracking number or notification that the frame was on its way, so this is going to be a short post as I need to tear down my old frame, clean all the parts, and build up the new one before Sunday when I have a scheduled group ride. Thankfully AXS is fully wireless, and the positions between this frame and my old one are so similar that I can probably just leave the entire cockpit assembled and swap it over, though I will have to deal with hoses, oh well. I might be able to leave the dropper housing in place which would be convenient. Seriously, don't run a dropper on a headset-routed frame...
Some notes:
- The paint quality is excellent. The molding quality also looks extremely good - I'm not poking around with the endoscope due to time constraints, but the entire downtube + headtube look perfect. The brake mounts and BB shell are also faced. There's a tiny bit of clear coat overspray on parts of the BB shell but 2 seconds with a knife and off it comes, so no problems there.
- The frame and fork screws are not set with rivnuts that protrude above the surface, so all the mounts are flush with the tubes. I don't really like this, as it invites paint damage since there's not much contact between the screw heads and the frame/fork. I'll be using some spare M5 titanium washers for load-bearing bolt installation (mainly the seattube bottle cage), and might switch to nylon ones if the paint gets marked up with installation.
- The downtube storage hatch is a tight fit with a rubber skirt around the edge, so it should be pretty weatherproof. The included bag is nice and slim and should be no issue, though I haven't packed it full yet. It looks like I can fit my packable jacket in there too which will free up a lot of room in my handlebar bag. Downtube storage sure is nice! The included multitool lives under the hatch, but I'm not using it, and the mount for it comes off when the (extra-long) bottle cage bolts are undone, saving some weight.
- There are molded-in channels on either side of the hatch to run cables/hoses through to keep them out of the way. Very convenient, but they're a little tight, so I don't know if I'll be able to run foam housing through the channels or instead use 2 segments, one on either side of the channel.
- A Soma Further 36oz bottle (the biggest bottle I use) doesn't fit on the seattube using the stock mounting holes, but I anticipated this and bought a slim bottle cage extender, and dropping the holes down about a centimeter allows the bottle to just barely fit. This is what I was most afraid about, so seeing this setup work is a big relief. A side-loading bottle cage is mandatory though.
- The included seatpost looks like it should be pretty flexy. I'm not using it on this frame but I might put it on my commuter bike.
- The seatclamp is branded QUICK, so clearly Carbonda is reusing their design from Quick Pro. I haven't heard anything bad about those clamps, so fingers crossed. The listed 8 Nm torque seems a little high, I'm going to start with 7 Nm which is what I've been using on my current frame to no ill effect. Again, a dropper makes life difficult.
I still don't know what the utility of the three rearward toptube bolts are, but I'm going to be plugging them with grub screws so they should be mostly invisible. Other than that minor gripe, my first impressions are all positive, and I'm looking forward to building this up!
January 02, 2026, 05:08:01 PM
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The build is done and I took it out for its first shakedown ride. Somehow I nailed the fit just by vaguely replicating the dimensions I measured from my G068, so I didn't even have to stop and adjust anything, and 7 Nm on the seatpost clamp is plenty. I don't really have much to say about the build process. Everything was completely fine (except dealing with the hassle of a dropper with internal routing, seriously, don't do it), all the surfaces were faced and all the threads were clean, hoses popped out where they should, it was great.
I do have a few notes about the frame, though:
- The only flaw I could find on the frame, or rather in the frame, is that the ends of the channels that divert cables/hoses around the downtube storage hatch opening have some excess resin from when they were bonded in, and this resin has cured to form mildly sharp bumps. They aren't big, probably only ~1 mm high (I can only feel them, there's no angle to view them), but it's necessary to use foam housing all the way up to the channel entrance to avoid potential hose damage. The channels aren't big enough to accommodate foam housing though (at least not easily) so some careful measuring is needed to get the foam housing length right.
- Part of my decision to buy this frame was that it listed 160/180 mm rotors - but this is only true for the frame! The fork is 140/160 mm!! I'm not too happy about that, but I can live with it for now. I bought one of the cheap 180 mm adapters off Aliexpress to see how that works, maybe I'll keep it, maybe I'll spring for the Peak Torque BBC ($75 though...). I also emailed them about this and they've corrected the frame specs on the AF website to be more clear, so kudos for a quick response there.
- The internal frame storage is somewhat limited - the included bag is good and is a snug fit, but no object longer than about ~3 inches can be put in the bag lengthwise, because the bag needs to be able to articulate to be crammed up into the downtube. It can't go down towards the bottom bracket because of the below-downtube water bottle cage rivnuts. The bag wasn't large enough to fully contain my (slightly overkill) tool kit, so I split the lesser-used tools into a separate ziploc that I wrapped in two shop towels and wedged beneath the hatch. This worked well and there were no noises even on some very washboarded dirt, and the bags haven't moved a millimeter. Unfortunately I can't put my jacket in the downtube, it won't fit unless I take it out of its protective sack and I don't want it to rip.
- There's no clean way to plug the hole by the bottom bracket for front derailleur cable routing. Ideally a little rubber plug would be included to patch this up, as I'm sure many, if not most, of the buyers of this frame will be running a 1x setup. I used some Sugru to seal the hole but a first-party method would be preferred.
Overall, it seems like I got what I wanted: nearly the exact same geometry and handling of my G068 but with superior manufacturing quality and a few additional features. And the fork doesn't creak!!! I only wish the seattube was a bit longer so I could've kept my OneUp dropper, PNW is not the same quality. Oh well, can't have everything...
January 04, 2026, 09:29:36 PM
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The build is done and I took it out for its first shakedown ride. Somehow I nailed the fit just by vaguely replicating the dimensions I measured from my G068, so I didn't even have to stop and adjust anything, and 7 Nm on the seatpost clamp is plenty. I don't really have much to say about the build process. Everything was completely fine (except dealing with the hassle of a dropper with internal routing, seriously, don't do it), all the surfaces were faced and all the threads were clean, hoses popped out where they should, it was great.
I do have a few notes about the frame, though:
- The only flaw I could find on the frame, or rather in the frame, is that the ends of the channels that divert cables/hoses around the downtube storage hatch opening have some excess resin from when they were bonded in, and this resin has cured to form mildly sharp bumps. They aren't big, probably only ~1 mm high (I can only feel them, there's no angle to view them), but it's necessary to use foam housing all the way up to the channel entrance to avoid potential hose damage. The channels aren't big enough to accommodate foam housing though (at least not easily) so some careful measuring is necessary to get the foam housing length right.
- Part of my decision to buy this frame was that it listed 160/180 mm rotors - but this is only true for the frame! The fork is 140/160 mm!! I'm not too happy about that, but I can live with it for now. I bought one of the cheap 180 mm adapters off Aliexpress to see how that works, maybe I'll keep it, maybe I'll spring for the Peak Torque BBC ($75 though...). I also emailed them about this and they've corrected the frame specs on the AF website to be more clear, so kudos for a quick response there.
- The internal frame storage is somewhat limited - the included bag is good and is a snug fit, but no object longer than about ~3 inches can be put in the bag lengthwise, because the bag needs to be able to articulate to be crammed up into the downtube. It can't go down towards the bottom bracket because of the below-downtube water bottle cage rivnuts. The bag wasn't large enough to fully contain my (slightly overkill) tool kit, so I split the lesser-used tools into a separate ziploc that I wrapped in two shop towels and wedged beneath the hatch. This worked well and there were no noises even on some very washboarded dirt, and the bags haven't moved a millimeter. Unfortunately I can't put my jacket in the downtube, it won't fit unless I take it out of its protective sack and I don't want it to rip.
- There's no clean way to plug the hole the the bottom bracket for front derailleur cable routing. Ideally a little rubber plug would be included to patch this up, as I'm sure many, if not most, of the buyers of this frame will be running a 1x setup. I used some Sugru to seal the hole but a first-party method would be preferred.
Overall, it seems like I got what I wanted: nearly the exact same geometry and handling of my G068 but with superior manufacturing quality and a few additional features. And the fork doesn't creak!!! I only wish the seattube was a bit longer so I could've kept my OneUp dropper, PNW is not the same quality. Oh well, can't have everything...
Thanks for the detailled description and all the pictures. Frame in the chaemeleon color looks absolutely stunning! It's between this and the LightCarbon LCG071S-PRO for me. Very similar geometry, although the AF01 is a more compact frame What did you use to replace all the mounting point screws? Also Sugru?
January 06, 2026, 07:59:50 AM
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From the early videos of the eurobike show, the downtube looked massive and they had a minitool and a small pump latched to the storage door lid and had shoved a bag up the tube. If you say there is not enough place for tools longer than 3 inches then the storage compartment is not really serving its purpose.
If they do not put the channels for brake hoses moulded into the frame, would there be more space for the storage bag?
Also, after you take it out for a ride, please tell us how it feels to ride.
The included minitool fits neatly in its holder under the hatch, and there's velcro straps to hold a mini pump there too, so I'm sure that configuration could work fine. My toolkit is more comprehensive because I'm usually riding in the mountains well away from any cell service or possible aid, so I keep enough on me to deal with most possible issues, but this is more voluminous than what I think the typical toolkit would be. The main restriction for the frame bag is the fact that it has to be put up into the downtube, as it can't go downwards due to fouling on the bottom bracket bottle cage mounts. Putting the bag into the downtube in this orientation thus interferes with the seattube bottle cage, which is why a lot of bag articulation is necessary to get around this obstacle. If the bag could be put downwards, or if there's no seattube bottle cage, then tools could be about as long as the hatch itself without causing issues.
The molded channels take up a little bit of room on either side of the hatch, but not very much, and the utility they provide is worthwhile as it would be awful to deal with hoses every time the bag goes in or out.
As for ride quality, it's very nice and smooth, maybe a little less stiff than my G068 - especially in the rear where there's ~35 mm more exposed seatpost. Handling is nearly identical, I would characterize it as being pretty much in the middle between road and truly progressive gravel. Not too much more to say; the geometry charts don't lie.
What did you use to replace all the mounting point screws? Also Sugru?
In the pictures I'm just using the old button head Ti bolts (and nothing on the fork), but they've faded and I wanted something more svelte, so I'm now using Terske bottle cage bolts in burnt blue. Pricy, but very well made and a good aesthetic match. They are too long to fit into the fork though - bottoming out with about 2 mm of thread left - so I took those bolts and hacksawed about 3 mm off the ends and now they fit great.
January 06, 2026, 01:18:10 PM
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Hi! I was trying to get photos of complete bike for size "S." Could you please add more photos? What does it full look ? I've been thinking about ordering one for a while, but I'm still unsure about the large sloping/short seat tube.
Of course, here are the photos! With the adapter on the seat tube, a 950 ml bottle fits.
January 27, 2026, 04:47:56 AM
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Received my size XL frameset at last, would finish build this weekend. Frame only 1037g without hanger/seatpost clamp, fork 444g. Carbonda team have done all they can on the livery so a big thankyou to them.
January 27, 2026, 06:44:08 AM
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A few photos of the assembly. The lighting at the moment doesn't do the bike justice. I'll try to take better ones (and better framing) when the sun returns to this part of the planet. I have to wait until a health issue is resolved before I can really ride it, but I'm really looking forward to it!
I do have one question, though: do you think it's normal for the derailleur to be so close to the first gear on the cassette (1 to 2 mm)? It's a 13-speed SRAM Rival XPLR.
January 29, 2026, 04:48:16 AM
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