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Re: Another Aethos clone coming soon UDH/T47
Sorry mate, just watch the latest Nero Show on the aero matter please. I'm not repeating or agreeing fully on their opinion, in case of factory/brand claims. But honestly, aero just comes into play for speeds of at least 40k/h (the pro's speed). For us ordinary mortals riding at 30k an hour, it does not make the impact you are suggesting. Therefore a much bigger impact will be a lighter bike for many cyclists. February 26, 2025, 06:23:15 AM |
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Re: Sensah Electronic Groupset (14 speed?)
The 14 sp thing has to be a marketing tagline, just like 3-14 sp from wheeltop. They just give you the ability to set that, but obviously, it will be primarily meant for what's currently out there. A 14 sp casette and chain with current standards would be absolutely awful, especially without direct mount udh. Selectable cassette speed isn't a marketing tagline, it's basically a main feature over Shimano and SRAM. Being able to throw any speed cassette allows so much more freedom. I'm already running a mix of 11 and 12 speed groupsets with LTwoo electronic and can still use some of my older 10 speed cassettes if need be. May 05, 2025, 09:19:01 AM |
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Re: LTK266-D-SL, allroad race frame, 680g bare, <800g w/paint and accessories (M)
Today the Specialized Aethos 2 was just released, and it is a nice comparison with this bike. Non-aero, superlightweight. Specialized has increased the stack, so it is roughly 15mm higher across the board than the LTK266-D-SL (dealbreaker for me, tbh). But it now has UDH and support for 35mm tires with 6mm of clearance (CEN Standard) just like the LTK does. But I bring it up because the Aethos 2 Pro with SRAM Force E1 comes in at $8,499 before taxes. In a size 56 with no pedals and 28mm tires, it weighs 6.71 kg. https://www.specialized.com/us/en/aethos-2-pro-sram-force-axs/p/4221564?color=5466393-4221564 My LTK266-D-SL with full SRAM Force E1 cost $4,700 including taxes, shipping, duties, and all the rest. If I was more frugal about touch-point components and wheels without compromising on group/crankset, it could have been more like $4,250 -- so fully half the price of the Aethos. My LTK in size 56 with 250g 1stgen Assioma Duos, 50g in bottle cages, 20g in computer mount, and 35mm Michelin Pro5 TLR (400g each compared to the 275g each of the 28mm S-Works Turbo TLR Race Tire on the Aethos2) comes in at 7.1kg. So no compromise in weight. I bet the Aethos has a comfier ride. Resell value is incomparable, as is support from Specialized dealers. But at double the price even with a spendy retail buy of new Force, it's an object lesson in the value proposition of these open molds, at least to me. EDIT: I wrote all this froth, but really let's just think about the frameset: $3,499 before taxes https://www.specialized.com/us/en/aethos-2-frameset-fact-10r-carbon/p/4221561?color=5446330-4221561 versus the LTK October 02, 2025, 01:39:05 PM |
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
open mold vs designing your own thing... Is bet that the gravel comes from an open mold, while the GT is completely individually designed... If you share your mold with nanny others you can produce higher numbers and therefore cost per piece for design etc should go down... Probably there is also other economy of scales factors involved... Isn’t the Lightcarbon LCR018 a completely new design ? Still way cheaper than the GT, while using T700/T800/T1100 carbon fiber. I’m not bashing XMCS, just want to know what justifies such a price. November 14, 2025, 12:47:32 AM |
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Re: Lightweight frameset with endurance geometry similar to the Aethos2
You can have the geometry with a Light Carbon LCR018 or XM Carbon speed Gran Turismo but they're heavier.
November 14, 2025, 01:37:13 PM |
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Re: Lightweight frameset with endurance geometry similar to the Aethos2
I am also in the same situation, and I have an LCR018-D on order. I would rather go for something more lightweight, but have not found any such frame. Other than the INCOLOR SSR Road in custom geometry, but that costs as much as an S-Works. Saving up for the S-Works Aethos 2, but keeping an eye on the Chinese market in the meanwhile. November 21, 2025, 05:49:47 AM |
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Re: Positive angled integrated handlebars.
Tavelo rise handlebar coming soon They looked nice until I saw photo of their profile - 2cm rise and then you lose 0.5-1cm by being forced to mount the hoods further down on the bar... And make the whole setup super non-ergonomic by having your palm "slide" on the curved part of the bar when it hits the hood, since there is no smooth transition bar/hood. I hate this kind of shape, sadly many chinese bars haven't figured this out (compared to more known brands)
February 24, 2026, 10:52:20 AM |
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
Those fake zipps look horrendous
March 18, 2026, 01:44:50 AM |
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Re: LTK266-D-SL, race frame, 680g, <800g w/paint & metal parts (M), fits 35mm+ tires
A couple of quick thoughts. Yes, 35mm vs. 32mm clearance is like 1-1.5mm difference per side. It’s not that much, but it can make a huge difference if you actually intend to run a 32mm tire on a large IW rim or a 35mm knobby tire. I recognize I might be the only one who has done both, but it was a criteria for me. This was one of the only options, Chinese or not that could clear a 35mm tire with 6mm all the way around and had a race bike’s geo. The Cervelo and Factors options couldnt do that at the time. why are people coming into this thread to dump on Chinese OEMs in general? Other than needing to buy and use an FSA headset vs. what Alisa sent, I for one had no problems building this bike up, and I had never built a bike before. Now 2,000 km in, I've raced the bike up a hillclimb TT, descended at 70kph, done multiple fast group rides, gravel rides, group rides through downpours -- at all the paces. It is great for what it is. It's not an SL8 or an Aethos; its not a Scott Addict RC Pro. Getting any of those bikes built up with the same componentry would have been double the price. And I'll be putting 35mm knobbies (or maybe those new Conti Terras or G-One RS Pros...open to advice) on it this summer for dirt/fire roads out West. May 13, 2026, 11:32:36 AM |
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Re: LTK266-D-SL, race frame, 680g, <800g w/paint & metal parts (M), fits 35mm+ tires
Initial assembly of my xxl frame is done, done a weight weenie build on a budget. 6.9kg as pictured, no pedals or bar tape, rigged for komfort with plenty of spacers right now For reference I'm 193cm tall with an 93cm inseam and fairly flexible. May 24, 2026, 03:12:48 PM |
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