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Re: Thoughts on modern frame geometry trends? Steep seat tubes? High stack?
Spend time in any Reddit Bike Fitter thread and you'll see that not even two professional fitters can agree. So I chuckle when folks speak in absolute terms about another rider's fit. Perhaps they are plenty comfortable and are still achieving the results they're looking for.

From my reading around I've found that to be the case, people can't agree. Some fitters will try to get things to be in numerical ranges vs just trying to get the person comfortable on the bike.

September 03, 2026, 09:26:59 AM
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Re: Thoughts on modern frame geometry trends? Steep seat tubes? High stack?
I had a fitter who did just that, pretty much turned his back to me to look at his computer and only turned around to make changes to the bike that fit in the angles the computer wanted. I was on a bike where native stack/reach was already 560/390, he added an additional 45mm of spacers and put me on an 80mm stem, and saddle almost fully pushed back on the rails. I said its painful but didn't seem to matter.

I'm 5'9" or 175cm with an inseam of 32" or 81cm. I went to a new fitter and she did't look at numbers or angles a single time until I was in a comfort zone, now I'm on a QuickPro AR:One size small with a slammed 110mm -17 stem, and 25mm offset seatpost. So over 8cm difference in stack height between fits.

I struggle with the modern progressive fit because a higher stack loads my hands and wrists. With anterior pelvic tilt and a good amount of flexibility i need saddle to bar drop to be high to get hamstring and core engagement and unweight my wrists.  It seems the more forward I move the saddle the lower I need the handlebars to be.

This has been exactly my experience to a T as well. I'm of similar height and inseam (173cm 76.2cm inseam) and have actually gone with the AR:ONE too (to be built soon), coming from a CAAD10. I'm a guy with longer arms and torso than legs. So my bikes often don't have as much exposed seatpost, but has a lower front end to compensate for that.

Both run 20mm setback seatposts, slammed saddle forward (I found my favourite saddle to be the new Fizik Arione - I plan to buy another copy in the future for my CAAD, gonna poach that one for the new build) and 100mm stems (-7 and -8). CAAD10 is slammed with a 5mm headset cover but I may try getting lower with the AR:ONE since it has a lower stack. Ever since I got lower and got the saddle position in range, my back, hand and ass pain has COMPLETELY gone away on long rides.

September 03, 2026, 11:53:44 AM
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