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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts Finished the build! Too bad winter has come a bit early and won't be able to ride till the spring now. Build specs:

- Size Large Frame; custom painted "Chrome Green"
- Shimano XT 12spd
- Shimano XT brakes
- E*thirteen XCX iW28 rims
- Bontrager XR4/XR3 tires
- RaceFace Next R cranks (170mm)
- RaceFace Next Handlebar (760mm)
- RaceFace Stem - 50mm
- OneUp Dropper (210mm)
- Giant Contact Seat
- Fox 34 SC 120mm, 44mm offset
- Fox DPS Float 42.5mm (the one everyone was buying on ebay)

The bathroom scale test (me with bike, me without bike) says 27lbs, but I sure hope that's wrong cause my spec sheet says it should be around 25lbs based on listed weights + 1lb buffer. Will have to get to a bike shop to properly weigh it. I spent about $5200 CAD on this, but did have some access to pro deals for RaceFace and Fox gear. Bought a bunch of the Shimano stuff on AliExpress a few months back before the prices started climbing.
October 23, 2020, 02:24:32 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts I took my newly arrived frame apart to check the grease level of the bearings
Looks like it's:
4x 6900VRS
2x 6901VRS
November 01, 2020, 02:53:07 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Quote from: hahel on November 01, 2020, 02:53:07 PM
I took my newly arrived frame apart to check the grease level of the bearings
Looks like it's:
4x 6900VRS
2x 6901VRS
And 2x 6801 in trunnion mount
November 01, 2020, 03:20:28 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts Tip for the 936 users :

Check the derailleur hanger bolt sometimes.

I solved noise issues by retightening the bolt, the noise appeared when pedaling probably because the hanger could slip a bit.
November 02, 2020, 02:08:09 AM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Quote from: QuentinLL on November 03, 2020, 07:28:12 AM
Does somebody know if a DVA Topaz would fit, with the double barrel ?
Wing says no, but he also says no for 42.5mm shock, non trunnion shock...


Would not fit. Reservoir will hit the frame.
November 03, 2020, 08:58:20 AM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Quote from: Roby13 on November 05, 2020, 01:07:35 AM
Hi guys,

I found thist threat yeasterday and I I read the whole thing because I want to order this same frame, thanks for all that cool information :).
My only thought is ,wich frame size would fit me better.? Comparing the geometry with my actual Scalpel Si in L, the carbonda frame is pretty big so I'm considering downsizing to M. What you guys think?
I am 1,83m tall and I usually have my saddle height at 77,5 cm (BB to top of the Saddle).
Anyone riding a M with more or less the same saddle height?

Thanks again and keep posting those cool bike pics!

Hi,

The reach is longer but the seat tube is steeper.
What you need to look at is the distance between saddle and handlebar (horizontaly and verticaly) to have a nice riding position.
I am 1,78m with 75cm BB to top of the saddle. With a L size and a 40mm stem (what i like to ride), I have the same horizontaly and verticaly position as my Orbea Alma size L with 60mm stem.

The main difference is that on steep uphill, with the Orbea Alma, I was seated "on the rear wheel". What means poor handling and struggling to keep the front wheel on the ground.
Conclusion : I suggest you take the Carbonda L size.
November 05, 2020, 03:12:21 AM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Quote from: Roby13 on November 05, 2020, 01:07:35 AM
Hi guys,

I found thist threat yeasterday and I I read the whole thing because I want to order this same frame, thanks for all that cool information :).
My only thought is ,wich frame size would fit me better.? Comparing the geometry with my actual Scalpel Si in L, the carbonda frame is pretty big so I'm considering downsizing to M. What you guys think?
I am 1,83m tall and I usually have my saddle height at 77,5 cm (BB to top of the Saddle).
Anyone riding a M with more or less the same saddle height?

Thanks again and keep posting those cool bike pics!
Definitely L for your height.
I choose L with short stem for 180cm, feels very balanced for ups and downs.
November 05, 2020, 08:45:32 AM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Quote from: Roby13 on November 05, 2020, 08:53:27 AM
I want to keep my actual position on the new frame which I find perfect,  it would not be a problem even if the seat tube is 4 cm shorter, I just need to set my saddle 10 mm backwards.
The thing is, that this frame in M has a 30 mm longer reach than my Scalpel in L which is perfect if I want to build it with a shorter Stem
but in L it is 55mm longer .
Also the wheelbase in M is 50 mm longer than the Scalpel in L, the L would be a huge 100 mm difference.
The kind of riding I mostly do is agressive XC an marathon races so a reactive bike would be more of my taste.
Is that the new scalpel? forgive me, but I think the point of the FM936 is to have the longer wheel base? I don't think you'll have any reactive issues on this, the benefit of the slack head angle and longer wheel base is not to be understated on the 'agressive' terrain.
November 05, 2020, 09:33:43 AM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Quote from: Roby13 on November 05, 2020, 08:53:27 AM
I want to keep my actual position on the new frame which I find perfect,  it would not be a problem even if the seat tube is 4 cm shorter, I just need to set my saddle 10 mm backwards.
The thing is, that this frame in M has a 30 mm longer reach than my Scalpel in L which is perfect if I want to build it with a shorter Stem
but in L it is 55mm longer .

As i mentioned, don't look at the reach alone. Consider distance saddle / handlebar !
Going from 73,5° STA to 76° STA (for example) make the saddle 31mm closer to the bars => you need a reach 31mm longer to have the same pedaling position (horizontal distance saddle / bars)
If you take a 55mm reach longer, then you can reduce 25mm from the stem length (better downhill and handling)

For example, as i said on my Orbea Alma, I have 63mm reach difference, compensated buy 31mm with STA and 20-30mm stem length.
Look at the picture => same position saddle / handlebar.
November 05, 2020, 01:07:58 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts When i center the pictures on the rear bike axle, you can see that the geometry, wheelbase, angles, BB height etc. are very very different.
But saddle->handlebar length is the same => same "pedaling" position



The FM936 is a modern geometry, it should be riding hard, with short stem. Take a size L and downsize your stem  ;D
November 05, 2020, 01:15:07 PM 		1