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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts Was just over at Ican Bikes looking at their S24/FM909 and see that they have a new 2021 frame S3 which looks like the front of the FM936 with the rear of the FM1001... geo chart is identical to FM936 and shock travel of 100mm with 165*40 shock - weighs slightly more due to chainstay pivots (true 4-bar Horst link) and beefed up seat stays due to not being flex stays. Available as a complete bike (with carbon wheels) as well as bare frame.
https://icancycling.com/blogs/articles/full-suspension-xc-bike
https://icancycling.com/collections/mtb-frame/products/xc-full-suspension-mtb-bike-frame-s3
March 21, 2021, 02:39:12 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts Build is done. Ignore the derailleur cable. I have it trimmed now ;) The color is based of the gloss/metallic green of the revel ranger. I sent adam a picture of that bike and they ran with it. Looks amazing in person.
Bike is 25.5 lbs with my old pedals. A nicer cassette and pedals should get it down to about 25.
Will be taking it on it's first real ride tomorrow. Pumped!
April 05, 2021, 09:13:53 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts Finally finished my build.  Size M, SL. BTLOS i30, DTswiss350, XT cassette and shifter, SLX brakes and derailleur, e*thriteen crankset, Fox elite shock (Giant Anthem 2017 model from ebay), SID Ultimate 120mm, 150mm OneUpV2 dropper.  Rekon F2.5 R2.4. 25.8lbs w pedals.

Absolutely love this bike.  Was looking for one bike that I could use on trail rides and also race in local XC events.  It ticks all the boxes.  After a few tune up rides I took it out for a hot lap yesterday on my usual 11mi loop.  To compare I'm coming off a 2017 Giant Trance w 160mm Lyric fork, and sometime ride an old but fast Schwinn Homegrown 26er hard tail.  I was within 5% of my best times on the gnarly downhill sections, and PR'd pretty much every flat or climb section.  I even cleared a huge techy hill that I've never done before.  I couldn't believe how much faster I was on this bike. Especially this early in the season.   It is about 10lbs lighter than my trance, so that's got to be part of it, but I never felt under-gunned on the downhills.  The geo and the 120mm SID felt almost as solid as the 160mm Lyric on my Trance.  I definitely bottomed out in placed where I usually don't, but tokens will fix that. 

In all, zero regrets with this bike. Thanks to everyone for sharing your builds and info.  Made the process so much easier for me.
April 09, 2021, 12:43:54 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts I made a quick comparative test with the 120mm rocker versus the original one.

I use a 42,5 shock and a 120mm fork. I just changed the rocker, same pressure in shock, SAG is nearly the same anyway, no adjustement on the bike settings.

The impressions you can expect by geometry changes are confirmed. You are more on the bike than in the bike, position for pedaling is in my case better, and bike feels more lively. Around the sag i feel it's a bit more supportive without losing comfort.
About driving what was predictable due to higher BB and steeper HA is confirmed, cornering is more lively, you lean and it turns faster.

If you ride mainly flat and prefer a XC feeling, i would recommend the 120mm rocker+120fork. 100mm fork+classic rocker gives probably equivalent sensation with more stability thanks the overall lower bike.

If your terrain is made of steep descents or fast corners (for example bike park)where you want stability i would go with 120fork+classic rocker.
May 12, 2024, 01:10:51 AM 		1
Re: Epic Evo Clone I purchased this frame from all star bicycle in November of 2022 (with the BRAIN rear triangle) and rode it for a bit in 2022, all 2023 season, and now again in 2024. The bike has been issue free from a ride quality perspective. The BB has remained sound and I've removed and reinstalled BB cups a LOT of times as I've waffled between SRAM DUB and Shimano a few times.

Much like everyone else, I needed a spacer for the top dust cover when preloading the headset to prevent drag, easy fix. I also removed all of the pivot bolts and greased and applied loctite before torquing them exactly as the real Epic Evo manual calls for. I replaced the UDH hanger.

My biggest issue with this frame comes from how the rear triangle interfaces with the front triangle. The rear triangle holes that the brake hose and rear derailleur housing pass through -- the holes that are near the bb -- don't line up with the holes near the bb in the front triangle. They aren't even close. Attempting to assemble the bike in this state required me to remove the lower pivot bolt, swing the rear triangle away, run the hose/housing through the front triangle, and squeeze the two triangles together as hard as i can to even get the rear pivot bolt back in, which completely pinches the brake hose.

Its so bad that I had to take a dremel and sand away carbon to form a channel on the outer edge of the front triangle cable/hose openings near the BB, basically just making the openings wider so they'd align with the holes in the rear triangle. A bit sketchy. But it solved the problem.

Hundreds and hundreds of miles of sketchy singletrack, drops. jumps, and the frame hasn't made any scary noises. There were a few situations where I thought the frame was getting crunchy on me but every time it was just mud getting stuck between the two triangles and grinding on the hoses.

One more thing to mention: the official Epic Evo frame has two small washers that sit between the frame and the bolt heads that keep the top of the shock in place. This frame didn't include them. The washers are obviously useful for getting proper torque applied to those bolts. I was able to source some, but keep that in mind, those bolts aren't supposed to just screw snug directly against the frame.

My build is as follows:
  • Rockshox SID Select+ 120mm fork
  • Rockshox SIDLuxe rear shock
  • Shimano XT Cassette, Cranks, Derailleur, Shifter
  • Shimano XT 4 piston brakes
  • Hunt XC Wide wheelset
  • SRAM AXS 170mm wireless dropper post
  • Specialized Zee cages with SWAT XC storage container
  • Specialized Fast Trak 2.3" tires
June 11, 2024, 08:26:55 PM 		1
Re: Carbonda FM909 Hello,
I want to introduce You for my wife hand made FM909 Carbonda set - all part from China except brake Magura MT5, Sram GX set, tire 2x Vittoria Mezcal and fork Fox 32 step cast. Cost for all was bigger than I think but I build it myself and the weight is almost like I want 11kg with heavy Marocca dropper, platform pedals, milk in tires and anti-puncture insert on rear wheel.
January 27, 2025, 12:35:18 AM 		1
Re: Carbonda FM909 I would like to sincerely thank everyone in this community and especialy this thread for their support. To give some background: In 2019, I lost my son at the age of four due to cancer. After his passing, I found solace in mountain biking and began riding intensively.

I had an old bike, but I wanted to replace it with a custom-built bike as a tribute to my son. Although I had no prior experience in bike building, I wanted something truly special — a real memorial bike to honor his memory.

After extensive research, I discovered this forum and learned a great deal from all of you. Alongside YouTube tutorials and blogs, I decided to order a frame from Carbonda / Wing and wheels from Elite Wheels. I also wanted a custom paint job.

My son loved Paw Patrol and had a light blue bike that he adored. I used the same color as his first balance bike for the paint. On the bike, I included the phrase "Knalluh Joel" — which translates to "Let's blaze" in English — from the show Blaze and the Monster Machines, something he loved very much.

Orange was his favorite color. So i decided the bike should be in orange. Also inspired by a bike that i had seen on this thread.

I have had the bike for about two years now and have ridden thousands of kilometers — over 6,000 km — including many single tracks and ride it really hard also, not only in the Netherlands but also in Belgium, Germany, France, Luxemburg. The bike still performs excellently. I really enjoy riding it and even completed the "Elfstedentocht" 240 km ride in a single day on this bike.

I recommend the Carbonda frame to anyone interested. If you have any questions about the building process or purchasing, please feel free to contact me. I did not keep track of the exact final cost, but it was approximately 3.600 euros. Most parts were sourced from AliExpress, except the Shimano XT M8100 groupset and Maxxis tires, which I bought from a Dutch webshop at a very competitive price. Please see the pictures attached.
My exerpiece from Carbonda was oke. The contact went oke, delivery took to long (to long). It was well packed. Custom painting was not that great in my opinion.
I saw some imperfections, but overall it was like i wanted and also like i had ordered.
 Painting quality in the Netherlands would be from a higher quality but also with a higher cost so i cant complain. All with all the paint holds really well and is scratch proof sofar  :). Please see attached the pictures.
 
October 23, 2025, 02:40:06 PM 		1