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Re: Frame req? (Aero, dropped SS, high stack, short reach) Personal opinion, I find it certain requirements listed here remarkable for an aero road bike. They are contradicting.
If you want a aero road bike, you want to go fast and save watts, not just "look fast".
Features of an aero bike are: low frontal area (contradicted if you want large tires), extended head tube (cfr SL8), airfoil shaped tubes (not a round seat post), dropped seat stays, horizontal top tube (limited sloping), integrated handlebar....
- A need for 35mm+ tires? I would question if your target bike is still an aero road bike, it's better to look at some allroad/gravel bikes. In addition,placing large chainrings might become an issue: i.e. the airwolf might be what you're looking for. Patrick Lino made a review about the frame sold by rinascalta. https://airwolfcarbonbike.com/product/airwolf-t1100-carbon-fiber-frame-cycling-cyclocross-bicycle-frames-aero-disc-bike-road-70038c-max-tire-thru-axle-carbon-customize-painting-climbing-bike-frame/
- I never understand the desire for a round seatpost, especially on a road bike. For me this is something you install and forget about. For weight savings: If you have a good manufacturer, the weight of the seatpost will be in line with the weight of the frame. Also if you want a fast, aero bike, an airfoil seatpost will save you some watt(s).
- Weight: this might not be an issue, but with the trend of the sub 900g frames, copying Pinarello shaped frames might not be ideal. Their frame shapes make it difficult to produce a lightweight frame. Personally I rather have a form follows function approach.
- A note on geometry: It starts to become more and more common knowlegde dat a longer, higher front setup can save you more watts than a slammed stem position as you can see with time trial bikes. While aero bikes tend to have a low,aggressive geometry, I hope bike manufactures accommodate to this knowledge and increase their stack.

Anyway, that's the opinion of someone who races bikes and likes to ride fast bikes. The audience here might be looking more for a comfortable, but trendy looking bike.

December 29, 2024, 04:04:56 AM
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Re: Frame req? (Aero, dropped SS, high stack, short reach) OK. So here is our goal to do this new frame, same standard as Faxxxx on headtube and bottom bracket testing.
One piece mold and latex molding
High stack, short reach, more aggressive geometry than Factor but less than Pina X
700*35C max tire clearance, UDH, T47 85.5mm bottom bracket, both top and down 52mm headtube
aero seat post but with two types seat clamps for either 7*7 or 7*9 saddle rails
dropped seat stay, aero design
Size 54cm weight would be around 895+/-30g after painted and with front and rear derailleur hanger mounted.
Here is my only question now: which position do you like the battery located ? Seat post or low side of bottom bracket ?

January 02, 2025, 04:09:49 AM
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset It doesn’t need much tweaking to make the logo look good.
Still not sure on the revenger bit, but the main logo looks good when bolder and closer together.


September 13, 2025, 02:31:27 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: LCR018-D (endurance all-road) Just received photos/videos of my 520 size finished painted frame, ready for delivery in about 1-3 days.
They said, it's about 15 days delivery time by airplane to Germany.

Looking forward for the October built!  :)



September 15, 2025, 04:45:56 AM
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
Do you know (by experience?) if Shimano 105 rotors would face this issue ?

If you mount the rotor correctly flat, then no issue.

On current Gran Turismo frameset, we will remove all decals except the XMCS or CARBON SPEED on downtube for now. After we get our US trademark approved, we will figure out more western design.

We are designing 2026 road racing frameset as well, which would be released in April 2026 I think.

September 16, 2025, 06:36:04 AM
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset Hambini Reaming Inbound Potentially or had Peter sent him a factory special frame 😉 😆
https://youtube.com/shorts/zt2oReDaya4?si=yQCQfKWRMZWN5HcS

September 16, 2025, 12:29:15 PM
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
Hambini Reaming Inbound Potentially or had Peter sent him a factory special frame 😉 😆
https://youtube.com/shorts/zt2oReDaya4?si=yQCQfKWRMZWN5HcS
Any company who sends him or any other youtuber special items must be stupid, why? For more after sales warranty issues? So, no need to do that, always randomly to pick up any items before shipping, like the wheels I sent to Patrick last year, if I sent him special pair wheels at that time, maybe now we got many after sales problems to take care,  we are not that intentional and not that silly.

September 16, 2025, 07:36:31 PM
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset
Hi there Pete!

I cannot find a link to have a look at the GT frame with specs etc

Could you provide one please? So many pages in this thread already!

Love my 65mm Wide T1100 wheelset by the way!!

Thanks a lot. You can see the geometry details here:
https://www.instagram.com/share/p/_mBQ4qyWQ
The weight is for the size unpaited though, since we upgrade the layups.

I've finally managed to put in some decent mileage over the past few weeks, so I'm able to write a short review of the bike.
This is the third bike I've built this year, so I'll mainly be comparing it with my other builds and focusing on geometry details.

I had my eye on this frameset even before EuroBike, but initially crossed it off my list after running some calculations based on the geometry.
However, after seeing it in person and with Peter offering me a generous discount, I couldn't resist and took the frame home.

Fun fact: I even got caught in the act in this YouTube video (https://youtu.be/4aRrWVxKaZ8?t=268) by forum member zealot128 at the XMCS booth.
Meeting everyone was a fun experience, and I definitely recommend visiting EuroBike.

With every new bike, I try to learn a bit more about bike geometry in my quest for the perfect frame.
This year, I've been mainly riding the Factor Ostro V2 in size 58, which has the same wheelbase length but a very different composition - making comparisons particularly interesting.
The standout feature of the GT is its massive 422mm chainstay length. For context, the Ostro's chainstays are 14mm shorter. This gives the GT incredible stability when descending or riding over 60 km/h.
On paper, you might expect this to compromise agility, but in reality, it's still very flickable and corners exceptionally well.
I would even argue that it feels more playful than the Ostro. However, part of that might be due to running the GT slammed with a stack about 2cm lower than the Ostro.

Climbing and going out of the saddle feel great as well. On some setups, I sometimes get out of sync when going out of the saddle, but that never happened with the GT.
It feels intuitive and responds exactly as expected. As for stiffness and comfort, I honestly can't tell much difference compared to the Ostro. Nothing stands out in either direction.

On the downside, the long chainstay doesn't really improve rear tire clearance, which is limited to around 35mm if you want 4mm of clearance on each side.
The tire makes contact with the chainstay before the seatpost, so there's always going to be a noticeable gap.
Another downside is the wheelbase composition: the front end is relatively short, causing toe overlap with 30C+ tires for me. It's not a huge issue, but it's something to keep in mind.

The biggest personal issue for me is the slack seat tube angle (73°) combined with the setback seatpost. Even with the shortest saddle, I can't move my position as far forward as I'd like.
This was initially why I crossed the bike off my list. I tried convincing myself it wouldn't be a big deal, but I remain very aware of it on every ride.
This is the main reason I probably won't be happy riding this bike long-term and am already considering replacing it with the Intropy Speedster.
So for anyone in Germany interested, this one may be up for sale at a heavily discounted price once I move the parts to the new build - so HMU.

My build includes a mix of high-end and premium Chinese components:
- SRAM E1 Red/Force XPLR 1x13
- XMCS 40/50 Wheelset with 30C GP5K STR (32C in future)
- Black Inc Aero 120/380 Cockpit (custom 3D-printed bearing cover)
- Leese 165mm crank with ArcRayo PM and 52T PassQuest chainring
- Kinan Kore Ti Pedals
- Arundle Mandible bottle cages (clones)
- SLT-style headset bearings from kugellager-shop
- Custom Garmin Varia 3D-printed frame mount
- Rainbow Ti-bolts throughout

As mentioned in previous posts, I found some "Gran Tourismo" stickers on AliExpress and also added a random Black Inc decal on the headtube that I had lying around from a wheelset to make the bike look less empty.

Bonus Fact: the exact same build of the Ostro would have been 93g lighter on the GT.

Thanks for your review, as I said, your frame is the first Gen, and sorry about the downside feeling, we has improved some details, and we are going to revise current seat post to 15mm offset two points clamps design. And we will add an 0 offset seat post with two clamps design as well.

September 23, 2025, 06:04:34 AM
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset Just a couple of logo concepts. Let me know what you guys think!


September 28, 2025, 04:39:34 PM
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Re: XM Carbon Speed - "Gran Tourismo" Frameset Agreed on removing Revenger. It is not good.
October 04, 2025, 07:01:39 PM
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