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Re: Epic Evo Clone
Did you ever explore this further? I'm also intrigued but not super keen on buying all the individual parts to discover they don't fit at all. The molds are one-to-one copies, I’m confident they would fit, but my money is going to other projects at this moment. Another factor is remembering that AWST is testing their produced frame with their adapted link and yoke, Not for the 110 travel. There’s a chance the increased travel will stress the rear triangle more than they are manufacturing for, In which case theirs is probably only about 90, Which clearly their frame handles well. maybe one day I will get around to this. It’s about 250 for this conversion September 12, 2024, 09:27:04 PM |
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
I always use a bunch of anti-seize on the BB threads so really hoping I can get the BB to thread back out once it cures as I need to switch from 24mm Shimano to SRAM DUB.I was riding repaired BSA inserts for 1,5 month, including races. No signs of damage, and I was able to unscrew BB cups without any problems later on. After 1,5months I had to split frame apart, because they've sent me the replacement front triange. November 15, 2024, 12:17:53 AM |
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
I just picked up a new frame from Airwolf. Visually, there are differences compared to the model from 2 years ago. The interior definitely looks better, smooth carbon, no visible glue. It seems that the holes for the cables behind the bottom bracket are now cut parallel to those in the triangle. And there is some additional rubber cover, but unfortunately not like the original, protecting the whole thing. The Bsa insert threads are now reinforced, covered with an additional layer of carbon, it does not look aesthetically pleasing and smooth, but you can see that this is a response to the threads falling out in the previous version. On the minus side, the lower bearing does not want to enter the head tube smoothly, I will have to use sandpaper and remove some carbon. When I start assembling the frame, I will see how it is with everything else. I'll try to add some photos when I have time. November 21, 2024, 07:45:58 AM |
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
This frame travel thing started to interest me, so I measured it. I taped a rod to the saddle and measured the distance between rear tire and the rod: full length shock and a deflated. Using a shock measurement 190x45 the distance difference was 8 cm, so the rear travel is about 8 cm (or a bit more), nowhere near 11 or 12. I also ride a RM Element with 12 cm travel and Epic clone feels it has a lot less. Epic clone feels almost perfect for marathons with a lot of ascending, but it is not a long travel XC frame.
December 06, 2024, 10:45:00 AM |
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Measuring the travel:
December 06, 2024, 11:24:16 AM |
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Very nice, uberamd. Thank you for writing all that. Can you share how you chose the type of epoxy?
May 30, 2025, 08:25:38 AM |
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Re: BXT-MTB-117 150mm AM bike
I'm with you. Frame is alright, rides great, but it was a hassle and a half to get going. Ubermd, I agree 100%. A lot of people on these forums are really asking the same question: "Can I get a bike that works like a name brand frame for a fraction of the price?" For full suspension bikes at the moment, I think the answer is "Probably not!" Let's put it this way: A mainstream publication would probably give a bike like this a poor review. There's a big gap between the refinement of this open mold frame and name brand bikes. My guess is that there isn't a big mountain bike culture in China yet. Companies with a lot of manufacturing experience are designing and building mountain bikes from a CAD file without a lot of practical experience, testing, and feedback. That's how you get bikes with suspension that gets stuck a full compression and downtubes that won't clear fork crowns (not this bike but another on this forum). My issues weren't exactly the same as yours, and I probably don't remember every quirk I dealt with, but I certainly spent hours dealing with weird flaws over many weeks. For example, I replaced a couple of plastic linkage spacers because the shape of the original ones caused friction. Santa Cruz VPP linkages don't have plastic spacers, and they have other design differences like a grease ports, dust covers, and between bearing spacers to mitigate lateral loads. My point is that most people aren't aware of details like this when considering an open mold frame purchase. I also agree that you can have fun riding this bike! The geometry is decent, and that goes a long way to making the bike handle well enough for me despite the "unorthodox" leverage curve. However, I wouldn't recommend a purchase like this for someone who just wants to buy a bike and ride it asap without faff. However, if you're a tinkerer who loves the challenge of a product with potential but flaws, this frame could be for you! May 30, 2025, 12:30:15 PM |
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