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Re: The Shiny New AM831 Group Buy (A) Thread! For sure still going to get the bolts from JJJ too. No way we should leave him hanging with the bill after all the work. Honestly at this point, I really want to see how well it works just because I have been so invested in this problem! 
December 11, 2021, 09:53:34 AM
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Re: AM831 bottom link design
Yes JJJ, you are right. In this construction it is not possible to give force over the axis without damage the outer bearings. It must be filled by spacers very correctly. This is the big disadvantage to bearings in the link.

Unless they provide a spacer to go between the bearings, that you would have to slip in by removing one bearing, I would not trust this through-axle design!

December 15, 2021, 02:00:57 AM
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FS830 Ripmo or Firebird?
Hasn't it been around for a while though?  I remember looking at it a while ago, looks like it could be a nice ride but it is ugly like a Ripmo (fight me!)  It is probably the frame I should have bought.

Haideli sell them on Alibaba

I persist that it looks like a Firebird, yet an older version, like here. The links are arranged the same way, and the geometry is pretty close, with slight variations, such as a steeper seat tube (76°, closer to the latest Firebird version).

Might simply buy this one instead of a triangle upgrade. Looks like the links can't be botched as bad as on the 831...

December 18, 2021, 04:58:06 PM
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The FS830
In my case it was possible to stop the delivery of the AM 831 in the last minute. So they will send me a FS 830 Mold instead as soon as possible.
If i reach it, i will have a look on the Link and the bearings. Build it up as fast as possible, to give you a idea of is there some issues or not.

I tried to look a the FS830 and asked for internal schematics. There could be an issue too. If you look at the pivots, there is a bolt on the left side, with the bolt head certainly pinching the inner race of a bearing fitted in the link eyelet. The bolt apparently goes right through and screws into a nut at the link eyelet on the right side, which nut probably pinches the inner race of a second bearing. Not sure how this works, because the link eyelet must be free to turn about the nut. In any case, both bearings are apparently pressed into the link eyelets from the left, meaning that they can't stop the link from moving to the right with respect to the frame.

December 22, 2021, 03:08:48 AM
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Re: Those with AM831 built, are you happy with it if not including flexing issue?
Spent some time researching this frame and decided to go with arc8 frame instead.. Till that hardware issue gets sorted

Pretty good deal via bike discount .. A bit more rear travel that I want but I can live with it. Similar geometry.

And me too having a feeling that Eddie is not reliable as he confirmed to me that rear triangle issue was sorted weeks ago.


https://www.bike-discount.de/en/arc8-extra-mountain-bike-carbon-frame-set-1

That is a nice frame, just a little bit more expensive than what most of us paid with shipping, shock, and if you opted for the updated triangle.
They also have the Extra ST with 135mm rear travel, just looks like a different link.

So I don't know if the triangle dates and information is just language barrier or a simple misunderstanding of how industry process works. 

Did they figure it out months ago?
Yes. 

Did they fix the bolt and connection issue with the original triangle?
Unknown.  Workaround is a washer and some thread locker if it was getting loose.  No amount of changes to the bolt attachment is going to make the seat stays flex less which is a bigger problem.

Was there a plan to fix the mold for new frames?
Yes.

Will frames that they have already produced ship with the new triangle?
No.

Will the frame people ordered when they told us about the new triangle get the new triangle mid-transit?
No.  That is what I see in the original thread, "I ordered a week before they told us about the update and I didn't get it! :sad face:"  He said production starts January 17th.  I ordered one within a few hours of Eddy posting and I don't expect to see it until June or July.

Will newly produced frames have the new triangle?
If ordered after January 17th, probably. Especially if it is the same for all frame sizes.

If you order a new frame right now should you specifically ask for the updated triangle?
Absolutely.  If they have stock of smalls with the original design and you order one, what do you think you will get?  The new group buy B frames will have the new triangle according to Haideli, they won't ship for a while.

This is how any other industry works where you get new stock when the old stock is gone.  It feels like I'm mansplaining the situation but people are making a really big deal out of needing to properly torque their bolts for the ride around the neighborhood.  ~€30 (JJJ's mod) is going to make it a great frame for casual to light weight advanced riders - except for poor Snacks, he has frame rub and wear that I don't think anyone else has reported and should get a replacement frame at a minimum.

January 08, 2022, 10:52:13 AM
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Re: Those with AM831 built, are you happy with it if not including flexing issue?
I think this comment just goes to show how little you have comprehended what I have "gone on about". 

My last comment on this issue so I'll try and make it as clear as possible without being rude.  What I am "going on about" has zero to do with the issues with the actual bike and 100% to do with the way Haideli, through their mouthpiece, Eddie, have responded to numerous genuine customer complaints.

Enjoy your ride.

I understand, I just disagree and think you're overreacting.  I don't know of any open mold resellers that ask how high when a handful of customers asks them to jump.  If you do let us know, they'll get a lot more business.

Enjoy your non-Haideli ride ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

January 08, 2022, 09:33:58 PM
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Re: New Enduro Frame FS830
Hy guys,
Is it ok if i post some technical thinks between, or should i open a new topic?

Build thread?  Unless you want to continue hear grandpa wax nostalgic about concepts he can't put together.

January 22, 2022, 06:37:55 AM
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Re: FS830 Enduro Frame - Stef Biggel’s build
The headset ZTTO and the Bottom bracket BB92 from ZTTO wasn‘t spectacular to implement. All the Pockets fitting well.

I Build in a Fox 36 Performance OEM Fork with 170mm travel

My beakes are Magura MT7 with Shimano XT lever. The connection wirh Jagwire QF works realy fine:

So long guys, today the carbon Rims are arrived… i have to do some builing job now ✌

Did you replace the bearings in the ZTTO BB? They’re known for failing very quickly. When I was going to build a Haideli frame (831/830), I got a set of the replacement Enduro Bearings you need from
Wheels Manufacturing; it’s part number SB-24X37, with two 24x37 sealed bearings.

Even after replacing the bearings the ZTTO bottom bracket is still cheaper than the Wheels Mfg version so it’s not a terrible deal.

January 22, 2022, 01:59:42 PM
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Re: Tideace Enduro FS-830 New Group Buy (A) Thread Now The enduro frame got in stock for each size.
So if anyone interested this frame.
Feel free to contact us, thanks.

Eddy@haidelibicycle.com

Thanks
Eddy

February 26, 2022, 12:05:13 AM
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Re: Carbonda FM 1003 / Flybike FM 1266 180mm "Super Enduro" Here it is  :D

It has been raining a lot in Syd AUS, so I haven't been able to take it out on the trails yet  :( Hopefully in the next week or two

Specs/Parts

- Forks: RockShox Lyrik 180mm
- Shock: RochShox Super Deluxe Ultimate with MegNeg Upgrade
- Drive Train: SLX M7100 Groupset
- Brakes: M7120 4 Pot with Ice Pads
- Rotors: Shimano SLX  RT-66 - F 220m / R 203mm
- Wheels: Dabomb Advance 29"
- Stem: Deity Cavity Stem
- Seat Post Clamp: Nukeproof
- Grips: Jetblack Rivet
- Bar: PRO FRS - 800mm - 40mm Rise
- Pedals: CrankBrothers
- Dropper: OneUP 120mm Travel
- Tyres: R DHR II 29x2.6" / F DHF 29x2.6"
- Valve: Dert Premium Tubeless Valve
- Saddle: WTB Volt Cromoly
- Bash Guard: OneUp Chain & Bash Guide

Rough weight is 15KG

April 08, 2022, 09:12:42 PM
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