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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
I'm in the process of ordering a 268 frame but would appreciate some advice on the headset & stem. At risk of repeating an old question - has anyone successfully used a SL7 stem/spacers/transition kit on this frame? I understand it's possible to use a FSA no.69 headset with any stem of choice, but would prefer an integrated look with the SL7 stem.
   
In the 168-frame thread there's been some discussion about 3D-printed transition pieces for the Allez Sprint. Unless I misunderstand, this round design will not match the 268 frame, and will leave a gap where the original transition piece is? Has anyone gone down this road?

https://www.printables.com/de/model/171982-specialized-headset-cover-round-to-sl7-spacersstem/remixes
https://www.printables.com/de/model/555935-velobuild-vb-r-168-specialized-tarmac-sl7-headset-
   
On a similar note, is there a consensus on the quality and durability of the included headset bearings? Would it be advisable to replace them with FSA bearings for peace of mind, regardless of the stem question above?

Thanks!

I am building my bike and the is a little bit of space between headset bearing/ compression ring and what insaw on a youtube video from patty that he uses somekind of other spacers.

Maybe original spacers for an sl7.

The spacers that i got from velobuild look cool and where painted in same color as my frame.
But seems to doesnt really fit well.

I am going to overthink this and maybe replace these item for original Specialized ones. As alse it is recommended to buy a bigger expander for the steering.

The velobuild is to short and not that good.

I send Patty a meesage on youtube but insee him sometimes react on this page aswell.

Maybe this is also a part of an answer on youre quistion.

July 25, 2024, 04:05:57 AM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
I am building my bike and the is a little bit of space between headset bearing/ compression ring and what insaw on a youtube video from patty that he uses somekind of other spacers.

Maybe original spacers for an sl7.

The spacers that i got from velobuild look cool and where painted in same color as my frame.
But seems to doesnt really fit well.

I am going to overthink this and maybe replace these item for original Specialized ones. As alse it is recommended to buy a bigger expander for the steering.

The velobuild is to short and not that good.

I send Patty a meesage on youtube but insee him sometimes react on this page aswell.

Maybe this is also a part of an answer on youre quistion.

Trying to catch up on all my messages. As good practice with budget frames, I always use expander plugs from the brand called "Neco" which can be found on Amazon for like $13-$20. Length large, aluminium or carbon top cap. Not the lightest plug ever but no slippage. Especially if you plan to run spacers above the stem

July 25, 2024, 12:17:53 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
Trying to catch up on all my messages. As good practice with budget frames, I always use expander plugs from the brand called "Neco" which can be found on Amazon for like $13-$20. Length large, aluminium or carbon top cap. Not the lightest plug ever but no slippage. Especially if you plan to run spacers above the stem

And what about the spacers you used? Original SL7 ones?

I see they are different on youre bike then come with Velobuild.

July 25, 2024, 03:33:06 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame Now done with my second 268 build. This time the bike is for me.

Frame: Velobuild 268 size 56, color: blue chameleon with glossy black inside of fork and rear triangle
Bar/stem: Velobuild integrated 100/400 mm.
Saddle: Ryet 3D mesh (Pro Stealth II knock off)
Groupset: Shimano 105 Di2 R7150, 52/36 - 11-34. 170 mm.
Wheels: EliteWheels Edge Gravel 45 mm. 24 mm internal, 31 mm external
Tyres: Continental GrandPrix 5000 in 28 mm (measure 29,5 mm on the wide rims)
Tubes: RideNow TPU 36g

Weight 7,75 kg w/o pedals.

Thoughts
Happy with the overall result. Had problems with installing the SL7-headset expander plug I bought, so will try a normal 80 mm instead, right now I just fitted the included expander plug. Saddle rails are too high (11 mm) for the clamps so the fit is not great. Might try to sand the rails down a bit. Perhaps I should have gone a bit deeper on the wheels, but wanted to try a wide set, and couldn't get them deeper than 45 mm.

August 08, 2024, 02:13:55 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame

I found that my steerer internal diameter is only approximately Ø22,3-22,6mm - too small for the Deda 70mm expander to fit (requiring >23,5mm). Seems like most readily available alternatives require >23-23,5mm. Anyone else have experience with this? Perhaps the steerer has an inconsistent thickness, will figure out as I cut it down.

I had a same issue with the deda Expander plug on my 168.
Took off quite a bit of material of the lower part of the expander (and also from the diameter of the upper part, to make sure it could sit flush with the steerer tube). Just took a few minutes of sanding. If you dont have a lathe, use a bolt and chuck those parts in a drill and then sand them to spec.
And i also used that rough clamping tube of the expander to ghetto-ream the steerer tube.

But once it fut

August 16, 2024, 04:13:23 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame I've used the deda hss expander before and found due to the design (no spring so doesn't return fully closed...), you should clamp it with water pump pliers before inserting it to make it a little smaller!
September 24, 2024, 04:20:04 PM
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Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
I completed my build approximately one month and 1,000 km ago, and I thought I would share some impressions and experiences. Communication with Velobuild went well, as did the tax-included shipping to Europe, which took just under three weeks. The frame size is 49 cm, and I chose the color "glossy pearl white" after seeing some great pictures earlier in the thread. The color looks just as impressive in person, although there are some minor imperfections in the paint (a couple of matte spots and some "orange peel"). Nothing I can't live with for the price.

I ordered the frame without the handlebar but with the stem. I wouldn’t feel comfortable using the stem (nor did I really intend to) based on the quality of workmanship it exhibited. I tossed it in the bin. Instead, I modeled and 3D-printed a custom transition piece in CF-reinforced nylon, between the stock headset dust cap and a genuine SL7 stem with corresponding spacers. It turned out quite well.

I opted to use a DEDA 70 mm expander plug, and the installation almost ended in disaster. It was oversized for the fork steerer’s internal diameter, so I had to turn/sand down the diameter of the end pieces. However, I misjudged the flexibility of the middle piece, and it began to get stuck about three-quarters of the way down during installation. I had to resort to an almost uncomfortable level of force, hammering it down with a rubber mallet, but it got there in the end. On the plus side, I’m sure it will never slip. Be careful if you plan to use this expander—don't repeat my mistake!

While the included headset bearings seemed fine, I installed stainless bearings from the start, hoping they’ll be "set and forget." The brake caliper mount faces were not properly masked during painting, so I had to carefully file/sand them down. To my relief, I haven’t encountered any alignment or rubbing issues so far.

Apart from the issues mentioned above, the build went smoothly without any major concerns. I used 105 Di2 except for the front derailleur and cassette (Ultegra), and rotors and chain (Dura-Ace). Routing the Di2 cables and brake hoses went smoothly after drilling/Dremeling out the hole in the front derailleur port. I bought the 3D-printed battery seatpost wedge that was linked earlier in the thread. The wheels are AR56 from LB, and the handlebar is PRO Vibe aero carbon. The included mounting hardware has worked fine with the PRO Turnix carbon rail saddle.

I had concerns about the speed-release axles, but they’ve worked flawlessly so far, and I would even say they're convenient. The small hex screw holding the derailleur hanger in place needs to be quite loose, though—otherwise, the thru-axle binds in the threads as it misaligns the hanger. I secured it with Loctite, and it hasn’t caused any issues since.

Would I buy again? Yes!


Clean looking build! Especially the cockpit area, nice work

September 25, 2024, 10:34:33 AM
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