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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
Carbonda is also pretty well regarded. There are some lengthy threads for their frames on here. They have an aero frame and an endurance frame on their website although I don't have experience with either. I do have one of their gravel frames (CFR707) and it's really well made. They are a bit pricier than some of the other options but there haven't been nearly as many reports of problems as with some of the others.
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
Of those 3, Deng Fu have definitely had the fewest disasters. But yeah, if Carbonda do something that suits you, I'd second them for quality ... though they are not without pitfalls - they painted my FM909 with the bearings in it, locking them in. October 30, 2022, 05:53:04 AM |
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
The 1056 or R12 will be much better built. But you've also chosen 3 different bikes with different geo and tube profiles so you might want to think about that. I highly doubt the 177 layup uses any T1000. And to call it T1000 as they do is misleading anyway, as even if it did, it'd probably be less than 10%. Chinese outfits (typically the low quality ones) use the T1000/1100 term interchangeably with high modulus / light weight. The 177 is relatively light weight. I'd be skeptical that VB or similar price point frames are using genuine Toray stuff anymore anyway (that's not to say Chinese equivalents are bad), given price rises. November 09, 2022, 05:25:31 AM |
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
The 1056 or R12 will be much better built. But you've also chosen 3 different bikes with different geo and tube profiles so you might want to think about that. Can guarantee that Velobuild is not using any T1000 carbon. Their frames are amongst the heaviest ones coming out of china! November 09, 2022, 05:41:08 AM |
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
Thanks. Yes, admittedly, I'm not at all well versed on geometry and I did notice that the tubes seemed more geared towards weight savings in some and aero in others. Dengfu fm098? November 09, 2022, 02:44:30 PM |
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
Can guarantee that Velobuild is not using any T1000 carbon. Their frames are amongst the heaviest ones coming out of china! We can guarantee we use T1000 - 1K carbon for our VB-R-177 and VB-R-218 frames
November 09, 2022, 09:00:36 PM |
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
I have pulled plug, or sent 880$ for a frame, one that rarely fits me being 194cm and more. 798gr in XXL, I would say an upgraded version of Focus Max Izalco most probably from the same factory, KSC Kangsheng. My was delivered through one of the 3 in the subject, with a damaged brake bridge with bad gluing try. ![]() 1st suggestion is to me arrange a repair. I work in international very mixed company, but this, sending damaged frame with terrible gluing repair attempt and everything else is unexpected. November 10, 2022, 02:34:35 PM |
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
My only main issue with the 177 was the seat post slipping which has so far been resolved. A "small piece of aluminum from a can of soda between the seatpost and the frame" was the popular solution. Useful thread here: https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3705.msg36588.html#msg36588 Secondly since the 177 has a lower stack than usual (for most people) you can consider ordering extra spacers just in case. Watch out for the seatpost setback also with relative to toptube length and reach. For your context i.e; "short, steep hills", the 177 should do the job. It is basically my long + hilly day on the saddle frame. I do not recommend it for fast pace riding on the flats though. From my own 177 experience, it requires more effort on the flats and it is not very stable at constant speeds of 40km/h and above. It does not handle fast cornering well like in crit racing. All the best with your frameset research. November 11, 2022, 01:15:33 AM |
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
...Any recommendations on wheels? A lot of people seem to be going with Elite after recommendations from Trace Velo. Looking for carbon, tubeless ready, 40mm depth rims, disc brake.These are the one I ride https://www.lightbicycle.com/700C-road-bicycle-rims-32mm-wide-40mm-deep-symmetric-clincher-road-disc-brake-available.html The hookless version with 28mm tires, set at 3.5 bars for my 67kg If the frames has 32mm tire clearance, these rims provide a very comfy ride even on Belgian cobbles. Extreme grip when descending fast. And I don't feel any aero penalty riding with my fast group rides. November 14, 2022, 12:03:32 AM |
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Re: Advice on where to buy a frame - dengfu/ican/velobuild ?
I've been riding my VB-R-168 for just over 4,000 km and so far it's been great. No issues building it and it's been solid since. Started to hear some creaking a few months ago and was beginning to think it could be the frame, but it looks like it could be my headset bearings (creek has gone away in the last few weeks anyway). Weight for a large should be around 1120g for the frame and [/size]400g for the fork based on what I was told last when I asked VB. November 14, 2022, 12:38:18 PM |
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