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Re: Epic Evo Clone
Airwolf version comes with UDH rear handger? It is a lot cheaper for me to get Airwolf than AWST (including shipping rates). AWST clearly points that they do use UDH.

My frame from Airwolf had a UHD, or at least a close copy.

June 06, 2023, 04:47:07 AM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
The only concern for me: If i buy trunion version of RockShox SIDLuxe Ultimate RL (that comes without bushing), is everything I need to install it on a frame comes from a frame supplier?

No, you will need to source proper bushings or have them fabricated. Bushings that came with the frame were more like place holders and did not fit the rockshox deluxe shock I was planning on using.  My frame came with a hanger and a headset only.  It did not even have grommets around the internal cable routing holes.

June 07, 2023, 12:59:51 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
I've talked to Airwolf, they could also send updated version of this frame. (without brain holes, etc). It could be, that they source it from the same place :)

So I've odrered the updated version from Airwolf. Lets see.. The only concern for me: If i buy trunion version of RockShox SIDLuxe Ultimate RL (that comes without bushing), is everything I need to install it on a frame comes from a frame supplier?  This is a first time I'm getting a full sus bike :)

why trunion shock? the shock is standart type shock... the frame shock points are 19mm and 13mm.. no way to fit trunion shock

June 07, 2023, 05:52:29 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
They sent me photo of rear triangle. See attachement. I will post update here, when I'll receive it.

Reached out to Airwolf thru Ali, got much of the same correspondence, and after some heated responses the seller finally made it clear that they do the new yoke as well. Language barrier!

And asking about the UDH this is the response I got. Looks like it’s there. I’m weighing out now to buy from Airwolf vs AWST.


June 10, 2023, 02:53:45 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
Is the sid luxe that you used for specialized only or can you use a normal 190x45?

He’s using a stock 190x45. You can see it in his photo.

July 21, 2023, 10:53:40 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
Did you have a chance to measure it already? I have measeured mine, indirect, by measuring saddle travel. It was about 7,5-8cm wtih 40mm shock. It was kinda hard to push to full travel even with 0 psi...  >:(

do you have a new standart xc race bike... sub 100mm travel matched a 120mm fork like a epic worldcup and supercaliber g2

August 27, 2023, 12:25:10 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
I got it from airwolf, asked for no paint. Finish us rough close up (scratches!) But it still looks nice imo and has no finish so it's uber light
I coated the frame with automotive wax for UV protection and added shine.

October 13, 2023, 04:48:18 AM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone
maybe someone is ready to write a new long-term review?

suspicious silence about the operating experience of this frame

We’re too busy riding em!!! Will catch up on this thread soon and share some my experience, been great so far.

December 04, 2023, 12:17:08 AM
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Re: HongFu FM138 Finished my build. I am absolutely loving this machine. I'm still tweaking a bit, but still very happy. Tweaking so far includes going with a different bar, the rear sus was a little too compliant for my taste so added the larger token and I think it's good. I want to make the front a little more compliant so will see what's in there for tokens, planning to remove one. I was expecting this build to be good, but I wasn't expecting to love it so much.

April 24, 2024, 09:16:04 PM
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Re: Epic Evo Clone I purchased this frame from all star bicycle in November of 2022 (with the BRAIN rear triangle) and rode it for a bit in 2022, all 2023 season, and now again in 2024. The bike has been issue free from a ride quality perspective. The BB has remained sound and I've removed and reinstalled BB cups a LOT of times as I've waffled between SRAM DUB and Shimano a few times.

Much like everyone else, I needed a spacer for the top dust cover when preloading the headset to prevent drag, easy fix. I also removed all of the pivot bolts and greased and applied loctite before torquing them exactly as the real Epic Evo manual calls for. I replaced the UDH hanger.

My biggest issue with this frame comes from how the rear triangle interfaces with the front triangle. The rear triangle holes that the brake hose and rear derailleur housing pass through -- the holes that are near the bb -- don't line up with the holes near the bb in the front triangle. They aren't even close. Attempting to assemble the bike in this state required me to remove the lower pivot bolt, swing the rear triangle away, run the hose/housing through the front triangle, and squeeze the two triangles together as hard as i can to even get the rear pivot bolt back in, which completely pinches the brake hose.

Its so bad that I had to take a dremel and sand away carbon to form a channel on the outer edge of the front triangle cable/hose openings near the BB, basically just making the openings wider so they'd align with the holes in the rear triangle. A bit sketchy. But it solved the problem.

Hundreds and hundreds of miles of sketchy singletrack, drops. jumps, and the frame hasn't made any scary noises. There were a few situations where I thought the frame was getting crunchy on me but every time it was just mud getting stuck between the two triangles and grinding on the hoses.

One more thing to mention: the official Epic Evo frame has two small washers that sit between the frame and the bolt heads that keep the top of the shock in place. This frame didn't include them. The washers are obviously useful for getting proper torque applied to those bolts. I was able to source some, but keep that in mind, those bolts aren't supposed to just screw snug directly against the frame.

My build is as follows:
  • Rockshox SID Select+ 120mm fork
  • Rockshox SIDLuxe rear shock
  • Shimano XT Cassette, Cranks, Derailleur, Shifter
  • Shimano XT 4 piston brakes
  • Hunt XC Wide wheelset
  • SRAM AXS 170mm wireless dropper post
  • Specialized Zee cages with SWAT XC storage container
  • Specialized Fast Trak 2.3" tires

June 11, 2024, 08:26:55 PM
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