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Re: Elves Eglath Pro Build the thing i like most about elves is how the name of their frames is like they've put a bunch of letters in a blender and set it to max.
September 29, 2023, 10:38:53 AM 		1
Re: Yuanan Carbon fiber wheelsets Year end discount promotion
Quote from: PLA on January 01, 2024, 11:14:59 PM
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PLA: I've deleted a couple of your posts. Feel free to speak your grievances, just please do it in a way without insulting people. We can do without terms like "typical shitbag, idiotic, typical internet hypocrite" etc. I realize you probably think that the forum and myself are being "fragile' but that is just the standard we try to maintain here. Thanks for understanding.
January 02, 2024, 07:14:34 AM 		1
Re: Yishun R086-D Aero Road Been using the R086-D as my official wheel testing frame. Didn't expect to enjoy those Elite Velo Six wheels as much as I do.
January 11, 2024, 09:38:58 AM 		1
Re: TideaceBike New mold Road Frame FM-CR068 groupbuy Only 6.9kg
July 30, 2024, 01:56:52 AM 		1
Re: TideaceBike New mold Road Frame FM-CR068 groupbuy 160 mm SwissStop Catalyst Race with the E1 calipers
January 23, 2025, 02:59:00 PM 		1
Re: Xiamen Carbon Speed 10 years anniversary special promotion
Quote from: toxin on February 16, 2025, 07:57:39 AM
Because the 21 carbon spoke hubs are heavy as shit
Really? Haha, 325g/pair on our 21/21H hubs, but still much lighter than DT Swiss hubs for carbon spokes, we don't use original DT Swiss hubs for carbon spokes, actually DT Swiss decided to make those hubs to supply to STREN who makes VONOA carbon spokes for many big brands, but firstly DT Swiss was too uncompromising on the price, secondly some brands don't want to use DT Swiss hubs for carbon spokes as well, so I believe you won't see current DT Swiss hubs for carbon spokes much longer.

Anyway, stable quality are most important, as I said when we released our 20/20H hubs for carbon spokes, we don't make them extremely light as some other companies do due to much higher spoke tension on carbon spokes. @Toxin, Have you seen anyone complaining about our 21/21H hubs except side entry so far? Maybe you are picky on weight of any part of bikes, but please don't say bad words on anything you haven't tried personally.
February 16, 2025, 10:12:08 AM 		1
Re: DSK Carbon wheels www.dskcarbon.com/ I have managed to get a reply back from DSK! Had to spell check the below and error which is expected

Lightweight T1000 or T1100 carbon rims (hooked): ​These are T1000 , T800 and T700 composite to LAY-UP suitable construction, more stiffness and more flexibility, similar to hookless, but with clincher a little.

Carbon spokes — are these Stren or Vonoa?: ​we use Vonoa from Stren, carbon spoke, but have other good choice.

Rim, spoke, and hub specs — and any technical or product sheets you have:​ Rims 400g for 32mm outer width, 25mm inner width for height 50mm rim

Hub is all pull-through holes with Front 20H / Rear 24H, it is more stiffness and stability and safe important, superlight weight 267g one set hubs.

Prices etc. ​$425/pair. with 1200-1230g.


I’ve followed up and requested some rim profiles, along with information on the available depths and weights, as this isn’t listed on their website. I’ve also inquired about their carbon spoke options and whether they operate solely B2B or if they can also sell B2C—hopefully the latter, especially at those prices!
May 23, 2025, 05:05:14 AM 		1
Re: Which Chinese Brands Offer Custom-Painted and/or Branding-Less Framesets? I think the assumption that a branded frame is generally higher quality is probably incorrect. The more prominent brands used to hire third-party QC; I suspect they still do. They supposedly have dedicated lines in their factories too, but you won't be getting any of those frames unbranded.

OEM-makes a frame to customer specs, customer usually owns the designs
ODM-designs frame to sell through other brands (more or less in this case), factory owns the design

Most of the reputable factories discussed on this forum are functionally ODMs (despite the posters throwing shade about what an OEM is or isn't; but whatevs we can play loose with definitions). The top OEMs aren't selling low-volume framesets and seem to have no problems kicking out brands that don't meet their expected volumes (see the somewhat nasty divorce between Xiamen Lightweight Composites and Seka and all the leaked Seka Spear RDC stuff that resulted)

If you're talking about something like Quick Pro vs. Carbonda vs. Flybike (are they mainly an OEM or an ODM at this point? but I digress), they are all related companies, so if you get a better price on a Quick Pro with custom paint from Carbonda, I doubt there is any difference in quality.

The Same goes for Tavelo vs. Adapt (ODM who you cant buy direct from as a consumer) vs. a small brand like Oak who sells the same frameset. I highly doubt there is significant extra QC happening from a one or two man bike company.
June 01, 2025, 08:23:58 PM 		1
Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126 I once backed a small project on Indiegogo. It was never fulfilled, and I never got a refund.
It was only $75 and I did not really care, but for years I kept getting excuse-filled emails from the project manager.
Just constant reminders of my terrible decision to support it in the first place.
There's absolutely no way I'd ever support a frameset on Indiegogo from some random Chinese manufacturer.
August 06, 2025, 05:35:02 AM 		1
Re: Tideacebike New Triathlon Frame – APEX RAZOR FM-IT098 it's like falco big v
October 19, 2025, 06:23:08 AM 		1