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ICAN A40 Build Hello dear Chinertown community!

I became aware of this forum in June because I wanted a new road bike but was not prepared to pay the high prices of the mainstream.
I've learned a lot, discussed a lot and even shared a tip or two.
Now I would like to present you my first build, which I finalised the day before yesterday.
The first real ride will take place tomorrow. So far, it's only been a short adjustment ride of 15 km. Everything feels good and round.

In this thread (http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4254.msg46760.html#msg46760) I was looking for tips for my first build.
After a long search through the forum and various manufacturers, I came across the ICAN A40 (identical in construction to the Cinelli Pressure), which I finally ordered.

Here I was looking for the right wheels (http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4325.msg49032.html#msg49032 . A separate thread about the wheels can now be found here: http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4444.msg50685.html#msg50685 )


...and this is what has now emerged:

Specifications (all prices rounded up):
Frame incl. stem steering unit, headset, seatpost etc... (800 euros incl. tax and shipping).
+ custom paint (200 euros)
shifting group incl. crank... etc... (Ultegra DI2 2x11 - 8050/8070 version - except chain and cassette and junction box, bought separately on ebay classifieds (used) - total approx. 700 Euro - parts look like new)
Chain, cassette (11-30) and junction box (for in the handlebar plugs) NEW - 150 Euro
Wheels: Elite Edge Disc 65 mm (500 Euro incl. tax and shipping)
GP5000 tyres, 28 mm (I still had used ones at home)
Carbon saddle (26 Euro / AliExpress / https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32961988965.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.121.7a255c5fpus40b&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu)
Carbon bottle cage (14 Euro / AliExpress / https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005266348973.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.151.7a255c5fpus40b&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu )
Miscellaneous (hydraulic brake line, handlebar tape, internal line damping, cable ties, rim tape, Wahoo holder... etc. - all AliExpress) (approx. 50 Euro)


Currently still equipped with normal "heavy butyl hoses".
7.67 kg. Weight (without pedals, bottle cage and bike computer).
But will be changed to TPU tubes as soon as they arrive from the Far East.
Then we will be under 7.5 kg

Total price, even if I've forgotten something, under 2,500 euros (2,440 euros).

 8)
October 02, 2023, 04:47:26 AM 		1
Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Quote from: Ahodesu05 on March 06, 2024, 01:43:31 AM
It just so happens that the Taipei Bike Show is happening this weekend, and I will go check it out.  I know Longteng has a booth, and likely other Chinese OEMs as well.  I'll report back on anything interesting.  (Let me know if anyone has any specific requests or questions in my DMs ... but I won't take requests for Hambini hairdresser pics, sorry....)

Just got back from the Taipei Bike Show – today was B2B and not open to the public, sh*t!.  I was dying to get in, so I ran down the street to the 7/11 and printed out a bogus business card and got in lol…

Of the Chinese open mold manufacturers, I only saw LightCarbon and Longteng.  Velobuild didn’t attend.  (And I didn’t see a presence from other Chinertown favorites like Elitewheels, Ltwoo, Winspace, Magene, etc.)  But I did get to see the LC017 and the LT266 in person, and got some intel on a new LT301 that will be released in a few months:

LC017: yes the downtube is quite boxy, but in person it looks/feels a bit more rounded than what’s on their website.  And the seat tube is rounded, not at all like the seat tube shown on their website.  Here is a video that I took: https://imgur.com/a/PNHdhI5.  It’s a niiiiice looking frame.

Interestingly, I saw several high-end bikes at the show with similarly boxy down tubes with sharp edges, including the Giant TCR, a Bianchi, a Bianchi Raparto Corse, and a Java Volata that won a gold award at the show: https://imgur.com/a/NEb8cpZ.  I talked to one of the bike designers and asked them about the design choice, and he said that they use less materials to keep the bike light weight, and squares are stronger than curved shapes.  In other words, for an all-arounder, they sacrificed certain aero gains in favor of weight savings.  I’m not engineer so I have no idea if this is true, I’m just relaying what one of the bike designers at the show said to me.

LT266: from my amateur eyes, this looks like a really well-made frame.  Alisa from Longteng was at the show, and she told me that it’s made from a one piece monocoque mold, so they can achieve a higher degree of uniformity and quality control.  The tubes are more rounded than the LC017.  Interestingly, she told me that they are testing an unannounced frame, the LT301, I’m posting the geometry and a short video here: https://imgur.com/a/XvH327j.  It looks to have a more aero profile than the LT266 and LC017 but still weighs under 1000g.  Alisa said they just finished testing the 54cm frame, and are going through tests for the other sizes – it will be a few months before they start selling it, although if anyone wants a 54, it’s available if you contact Alisa directly.  (OT: I asked which brands Longteng acts as OEM for, the only thing I could get out of Alisa was that they make a few frames for Argon.)

Does this help with my bike choice?  I probably will go with one of these and not the Velobuild frames, since I’ve seen and touched them in person.  Between the LC017 and LT266?  I have no idea….

That’s all I have, cheers.
March 07, 2024, 01:25:48 AM 		1
Re: Airwolf: What is this model inspired from? [Trek Madone] I just finished building my second slr from Airwolf (one for myself and one for a friend). Some experiences to share:
Ordering the frame went quite smoothly, as well communications with Airwolf during the whole process: easy to get in touch with them and they're willing to help.
Their statement that this is the original is obviously not true. Some small issues, especially with the small parts that come with the frame, indicate this is a copy. A good one though, as far as I can judge without testing it to and over its limits. Fair paint job, though it seems a bit easy to damage. We'll see.
Please note that though the website states the frame is also suitable for mechanical shifting, it is not. Just like the original gen 7 Madone, it is only suitable for Di2 (or any other electronic shifting). The internal routing of a rear shifting cable has to go through too many sharp bends to let it shift smoothly. I spent a lot of time and trying several things to get it shifting without any issues, but in the end decided to strip the mechanical groupset and replace it by Di2. Learning the hard way... The second build-up was an easy job after that.
Routing the brakehoses through the handlebar is really a pain. It took me quite some time and the help of an extra hand to get them through. I guess that'd be the same with an original; it's caused by the design.
The parts that come with the seatpost are a bit sloppy. The wedge used to fixate it in the frame is way to smooth and therefore too slippery. Using carbon paste is explicitly discouraged. Ordering an original wedge (which has a roughed surface) solved it easily. The sadlle clamp was skewed and too wide (and heavy), and again using an original solved it.
The headset bearings seem to fit well, but there's still some minor play in the headsets of both bikes after putting the bike together. In the second build I replaced the splitring on top of the upper bearings with an original one, but that didn't resolve the issue. My conclusion is it has to do with the first spacer. Adding an extra C ring on top as suggested above might solve it, not yet tried.
The holes for mounting the front caliper were in the right place (both builds), but quite rough on the inside. The threading of the holes in the forks had to be cleaned out/threaded, otherwise the bolts needed far too much force to get them in.
The mount for the rear caliper on one of the frames is not exactly even, so when I tighten the bolts the caliper will not stand exactly upright. This makes it almost impossible to adjust the caliper enough to let the disc run freely. Probably some paint issue. Solved by putting some thick nail polish on the frame on one edge of the bolt hole.

Both bikes have been ridden for a few hundred km and it feels fast and sturdy. The handlebar is pretty flexible, which I didn't expect from a carbon one. But that may be me not being used to an aero bar.
All in all I am quite positive about the Airwolf frame. If you go for this frame I'd advice to buy some original parts with it at the trek webshop right away: seatpost wedge and saddle clamp (together about 30€). But if you're thinking about building a very nice bike yourself, I'd certainly consider this frame.
May 31, 2024, 09:53:59 AM 		1
Re: Spcycle R065 700C Full Carbon AERO Road Disc Brake Frameset Got my frame last week, cant understand how the di2 battery should be mounted there is no hatch like on the aeroad. Has anybody built this one up with di2? Says in the spec that it should be compatible.

Paint quality is pretty poor with a lot of dust particles and overspray under the clear coat. There is also a wrinkle where the seat stay attaches to the seat tube, does not look to good. Paint around seat post hole is not looking to good either with some few chips.
June 06, 2024, 11:44:23 PM 		1
New Frame Winow Sports WR054 New frame 2024.

T47 bottom bracket
UDH derailleur hanger
32 mm clearance
July 01, 2024, 03:02:46 AM 		1
Re: New Frame Winow Sports WR054 It is not officialy avalaible.

The frame looks amazing.
July 01, 2024, 07:36:24 AM 		1
Re: New Frame Winow Sports WR054 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256807108872095.html?gatewayAdapt

AliExpress has released the product link for WR054 and it is available for ordering.
July 04, 2024, 03:33:19 AM 		1
LightCarbon LCG072-D (new Model 2024) I visited Eurobike 2024 yesterday and Lightcarbon is expected to release a new model at the end of September, which will be a mix of gravel and road bike.

I took a photo of the specifications, the frame is a 3D print what the frame might look like, what do you think about it?
July 08, 2024, 01:04:47 AM 		1
Re: LightCarbon LCG072-D (new Model 2024) I wrote to LC because I liked the look of the frame. Here's the response:

Quote
Thanks for your inquiry about LCG072-D, the newest gravel frame set,
check attachment. max tire is 700C*42C,
now the frame is just on testing, size M loading time is about two months,
Frame set including frame+ seat post + fork +stem or handlebar + seat clamp+ head set+ front & rear thru-axle, and two hangers for rear derailleur.
Color: UD matt, (painting customized is acceptable with extra cost.)
Price is about USD$780/set including shipping cost and all duties to Danmark, we need confirm your post code frist,.
If pack two frames in one carton, price can be cheaper.

They included a geo chart, attached below
July 08, 2024, 03:41:03 AM 		1
Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
Quote from: patliean1 on July 10, 2024, 03:59:51 PM

-The SL8's ability to sustain any given speed is noticeable. Very very noticeable. The way it just floats over bad pavement. 100 mile ride or 35mph townline sprint, it's all-day comfort and speed no matter what. At the risk using "bro science" I'd reckon the SL8 is around 3 to 4 mph faster at 250 watts.

I appreciate your experience, but it's just impossible to believe. 250 watts for average rider is 34-35 kph (21-21.7 mph) and 3-4 mph (4.8 - 6.4 kph) difference which you claim, it's around 100 watt difference in power, it's insane. The vbr268 must be made from noodles.
July 11, 2024, 03:00:37 AM 		1