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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) Hopefully lightcarbon will address your issue asap as I wouldn't feel safe riding that.  Makes me wonder about my own frame as I never used an endoscope to check it internally.
September 16, 2024, 06:56:40 PM 		1
Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Quote from: tiagosantos_ss on September 16, 2024, 06:31:35 PM
Hello,

I purchased a LCR017 in June and received it a few months later, paid 712$, a bit less than you because I didn’t ask any customization. Did you request any "z tier" when ordering your frame?
Upon inspecting my frame, I discovered significant voids in the upper seat tube area. I reached out to my sales contact, Carol, regarding this issue but have not received a response yet (WhatsApp and email). I also used the contact form on the Lightcarbon website to inquire about my frame situation.
Just to clarify, I am not seeking for clicks on my YouTube channel, as someone suggested in response to one of my comments on Hambini's video about the same frame model. I simply want to share my experience with the Lightcarbon. Here's the video,
Eventually, I will do another one if Lightcarbon keeps quite about my case.
Thanks Tiago

Wow, that's the worst I've ever seen.  Did they give you a new frame? I wonder how voids like that even happen! It's like the sheet of carbon they used was all torn up when they put it in the mold or something.
September 20, 2024, 09:24:48 AM 		1
Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) What are all these tier/QA/QC levels people have been talking about recently regarding LightCarbon? Does a customer now have an option to get a higher quality manufactured frame if pays/donates more? Is it a new pay-to-win stay-alive element of purchasing? The frame is either reliably ridable/buildable or going to trash. Are there new degradation levels in between, like "well you can ride it but carefully" or "yeah almost built completely, but go to your local workshop for some extra work and final touch before you can even ride it." We're talking here about something above-average brand, "the HIGHEST quality bike frame," and not some random 200-buck aliexpress DIY carbon frame.

I can't see any info on this matter on their website, nor was it mentioned during our conversation when I bought two frames (MTB) 3 years ago from them.
September 22, 2024, 05:01:55 AM 		1
Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) I see, thank you for the clarification (his videos are quite boring and pretty watered, difficult to watch). Well, in this case, it's screwed up indeed.
September 22, 2024, 09:17:43 AM 		1
Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D) After reading every post in this thread and falling in love with some of your bikes, I decided to order this frame two weeks ago. But now you're making me doubt—will I receive a bad frame just because I ordered it before the Hambini video and didn't specify the code?  ???
September 23, 2024, 03:11:47 AM 		1
Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Quote from: mheusler on September 23, 2024, 06:47:38 AM
"No problem, we can get you the frame with Quality standard Z3 (actually this model are all produced in Quality standard Z3, what Hambini got is just a regular one from our mass production)."
Looks like there was no special treatment for Hambini, which however doesn't mean that issues with QC can't still happen ...

Quote from: tiagosantos_ss on September 23, 2024, 04:50:58 AM
They replied "we checked with our warranty department and engineers... and the imperfections won't affect the frame function or strength"
They also say if something goes wrong with the frame, they will replace it, meaning if it breaks in that region and I fall, they will ship a new one (even if I am not able to ride any bike after falling or even walk)


The combination of both things is scary. the voids shown in the video look scary. It's a super light frame, so it's not like there's a lot of carbon and you can afford big chunks missing. Maybe the video / photos make it look worse than it is, i guess that's plausible.
I havent seen it irl, i but i think i would send it back even if i have to pay for shipping.
I'm surprised of LC's reaction. How about you email hambini and ask for his opinion? I think i'd do that. Not that i would expect him to make a video (he's a youtuber at the end of the day, so he may / may not want to make a video about your frame), but i do expect him to interact with you by email.
September 23, 2024, 08:47:14 AM 		1