Quote from: KidCharlemagne on March 13, 2025, 05:43:38 PM
@AlexJones

Where did you order your groupsets from? I'd like to get my hands on some too.

"LTWOO Official Store" on AliExpress.

Lol I ordered some groupsets listed as 2022 in hopes of stocking up on the rapid release versions before they become harder to find but was sent 2024/2025 versions of the shifters. It's Joever  . Seems like you even can't get the Campag-style release ones anymore.

New version definitely seems to shift lighter (less force required to actuate), but I still liked the old version better. Shifting mechanism 100% changed on the 2024 refresh (see pics, left is old version).

Quote from: hsaus on January 17, 2025, 05:59:11 PM
The hydraulic shifters have also been updated so that the thumb lever only shifts one cog at a time.

I have an older R9 hydraulic set where the thumb lever can do shift multiple gears, but the R9 hydraulic set that I bought recently can only do one at a time.

The logo on the larger shift paddle is different on the two versions.

Wow I hate when manufacturers take features away on new versions like that. Kind of takes away the whole appeal of the LTwoo shifters (being Campag style shifting but works with Shimano pull). I wonder if it was due to a patent issue. Better load up on the old version while they're still available, I guess.

Someone should ask one of their reps why they did that if given a chance at trade shows.

Quote from: TribesMan on November 22, 2024, 02:49:15 AM
Maybe there is just a mechanical blockage inside the new style brake levers. Similar to what campy did in Ekar.
I almost doubt they could mount old mechanism inside the new style levers, because the position of the downshift lever is completely different in new vs old.

It is possible, but I doubt it. I looked at the internals of the R9 Hydro vs R9 Mechanical and the shifting mechanism/gears are completely different. The R9 Hydro has something more akin to Campy Ultrashift mechanism while the R9 Mechanical has something more akin to Campy Powershift internals (think 2015 Veloce). The Campy Powershift levers only did 3 up and 1 down.

Quote from: TribesMan on November 21, 2024, 04:16:36 AM
But if it is the same style thumb shifter as Hydro R9/RX why could you not shift multiple gears at once as Alex Jones mentioned?

My guess is they kept the internals of the shifter and just changed the lever design. Probably costed too much to engineer the shifting mechanism into the mechanical mold or maybe it has some patent reason. I was so excited to see them at first thinking I could finally get Campy slam shifting with Shimano hardware on rim brakes (always wanted it ever since I used a Campy shifter). Imagine my surprise when I received them, and they would only do 1 shift into the harder gear

Kind of disappointed by this refresh, seem to be mostly a cosmetic refresh and the internal were not change. You cannot do the gear dumping into harder gears like the hydro version and Campy. Was so excited to have a rim brake Chinese Campag clone, but this is not it