Quote from: xrider91 on May 28, 2026, 06:55:26 AM
The SPCycle G058 suggested above by pandagravel15 (thanks!!) looks like it fits in that category unless I'm misreading the charts.

its what i run. long legs, short torso, so already i gravity towards different stack/reach geo compared to most. Add some neck injury and im quite happy running such a tall setup.

geometry noob here, but from what I understand this high STA also makes the effective reach quite a bit lower? I usually run my seat as far forward as I can, even with the short reach bike I got, so this actually seems like it could be quite interesting. Feels like with my extremely fat ass the extra presure on the front helps too. TBH this bike seems pretty interesting to be.

Quote from: metachlone on October 30, 2025, 04:00:33 PM
Can you make some close-up photos of bar and stem were cables go from bar to stem? How did you do the wiring? Where there any problems when doing the cables?

Thank you.

Slow response, but anyway, its hard to make a picture because you can't really see it. I didn't route the cables through the bar (would be way too tight with 2 hydraulics hoses and 2 shifter cables), and then on the stem there's a little cap at the bottom you screw on. It definitely wasn't easy to get it on, it's still quite tight. Then they come down the steerer tube, and on a C spacer to go into the frame.

Quote from: gf on September 18, 2025, 01:27:53 AM
Hello; I have the ssame frame with integrated handlebar included in the frame set.

Can you post a picture? Curious how it looks.


Also I originally had the same problem with cables being too long and resistance.

I asked one from tantan, but I use GRX, so not very useful.

Quote from: Serge_K on June 29, 2025, 07:16:18 AM
Would be interesting to poll this, but I'm pretty sure westerners, far and wide, need less aggressive geometries, not more.

Just watched TraceVelo mention this frame, instantly went here to look up some geometry to see if it could be suitable for me. Super happy to see it's a bike that doesn't seem to be made for asian ratios. Might consider building this at one point (Although the Carbon Speed endurance framea also looks good), but to me this has a lot of what I would like in a bike. The internal storage is also pretty nice.

was 700 euro about iirc. That also included a bb, tru-axles, headset, and the mount for fenders.

Quote from: taenbolle on May 13, 2025, 03:19:02 AM
Looking at Seraph/tantan gr048 or lightcarbon LCG071-PRO.
Thinking about buying the Seraph from this Aliexpress shop: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwmwywK
Dont see alot of Gr048 builds here on Chinertown, wondering if it is safe to buy.

I have had mine for a little while now. Sample size of 1, but for me it's been solid and im 100kg+, done sprints on it and it didn't crack in half, which is fair enough for me. Ordered it through Seraph website and picked my own paint, can find my thoughts in the thread about that frame.  Note that I specifically picked that frame because it's short and tall, there might be other options.

 Somewhat better pictures. Got sick multiple time, so rode less than I wanted to, but the times I did ride I'm very happy with it. It's a an upright position, which for my non-existent flexibility and general body ratio is great.

Didn't get around to chopping the steerer tube yet. Put some gravel tires on my aluminium wheels. Did have issues couple times with seat rails slipping, put them tighter now (send an email to get info on all torque specs), which seems solved now. The one downside with this double bolt one is that the front bolt I can't actually access with my closed saddle.

At this point I'm very happy, but probably should've gotten a bit crazier with paint scheme.

I've got the GV45 2.0 ones and really like them. IVe only borrowed a set ones with DT hubs and these are nicer. I don't see a reason to 35 though. I live in very flat and windy place, and 45 is fine. The without difference is really minimal, especially considering their usage.

I think the reason 9velo doesn't come up here often is because you can probably get cheaper wheels, with the same quality. I found the price of mine (with a 15% code) good enough to just get them.

Quote from: Dlloyd15 on February 04, 2025, 03:24:00 PM
How was your experience with TanTan?

Very good. Emails were good and clear, could get proper confirmation of everything. I got good pictures of different paint, and got a picture they made to check if they understood what i wanted. Ofcourse with my sample size of 1 take what I say with a grain of salt. You ofcourse do need to be a bit patient for paint (Although everything was according to mentioned schedule), but once the bike got painted they send me an email (Which they don't need to do, but its nice to get an update). The tracking of shipping in my case was pointless, but it's not up to them. It was "stuck"  in Asia for a week and a half according to tracking, when suddenly I had the courier at the door. Packaging was solid of what I'd expect (All parts individually packaged in lots of foam, and a solid box)

I tried spcycle on aliexpress, but when I asked for paint I got no more response.

Build it up and rode a bit with it, will post proper pictures in future.

Components are
Tantan GR048 with custom paint (Red metallic, with the tops of bars being black, and matte varnish)
9Velo GV45 2.0 (already had them some months)
GRX820 (with GRX400 brakes)
RXL SL gravel bars at 42CM
Kocevlo stem at 90mm
Silca bar tape (Knockoff? of some ali seller, easily nicest bar tape ive used though)
Redshift grips (Knockoff of same ali seller, surprisingly great)

For now its just a road setup, because I don't actually have gravel where I live, the idea of this bike was to swap some wheels when I want to do some small trips to places with gravel. I run corsa pro 32mm tubeless on the 9velo wheels for now, and will probably keep doing that for a good while.

For me the geometry is very nice. Its definitely relaxed but as someoone with a short torso, a lot heavier than I ought to be and a quite bad back it makes it really comfortable. It's actually a stiffer than my Defy (non-SL frame), and handling is more stable. Keep in mind I'm just used to that bike, and a 20yo Trek OCLV carbon bike. This bike is obviously heavy (didnt weigh it yet), but for me that really doesn't matter much. I'm a heavy guy, and live in a flat area. I also have no intention of going fast. Fork will be chopped once I figure out the height (probably one spacer less)

No obvious flaws on the build. One small annoyance is quite large unpainted areas around some of the bolts, but I don't care too much. The varnish is also pretty rough around the BB area, but its hidden away and I have no issue with it.

Received frame. Really happy with the paint. Nothing out of the ordinary on first look. All random bits seem present in the order.

Quote from: fhold on January 23, 2025, 06:56:07 AM
looks very good - where did you finally purchase and how much was it?

575 USD exc shipping. That also includes thru axles, BB, stem and the fender mount. Ordered from Seraph. We'll see on the quality once I receive it, don't expect too much esp from the random bits, but easy to change out. Mainly just want to be able to put the basics together to give it a test spin.

Got some pictures of my painted frame. Looks good from the pictures. Its a metallic red + black with matte clearcoat.

@Reiko what is the T47i? I asked for a BB of Tantan that they're sending along with it, can you use a regular T47 (52mm outside) tool for it, or is there some special tool required?