geometry noob here, but from what I understand this high STA also makes the effective reach quite a bit lower? I usually run my seat as far forward as I can, even with the short reach bike I got, so this actually seems like it could be quite interesting. Feels like with my extremely fat ass the extra presure on the front helps too. TBH this bike seems pretty interesting to be.

Hello; I have the ssame frame with integrated handlebar included in the frame set.

Can you post a picture? Curious how it looks.


Also I originally had the same problem with cables being too long and resistance.

Would be interesting to poll this, but I'm pretty sure westerners, far and wide, need less aggressive geometries, not more.

Just watched TraceVelo mention this frame, instantly went here to look up some geometry to see if it could be suitable for me. Super happy to see it's a bike that doesn't seem to be made for asian ratios. Might consider building this at one point (Although the Carbon Speed endurance framea also looks good), but to me this has a lot of what I would like in a bike. The internal storage is also pretty nice.

Looking at Seraph/tantan gr048 or lightcarbon LCG071-PRO.
Thinking about buying the Seraph from this Aliexpress shop: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwmwywK
Dont see alot of Gr048 builds here on Chinertown, wondering if it is safe to buy.

I have had mine for a little while now. Sample size of 1, but for me it's been solid and im 100kg+, done sprints on it and it didn't crack in half, which is fair enough for me. Ordered it through Seraph website and picked my own paint, can find my thoughts in the thread about that frame.  Note that I specifically picked that frame because it's short and tall, there might be other options.

I've got the GV45 2.0 ones and really like them. IVe only borrowed a set ones with DT hubs and these are nicer. I don't see a reason to 35 though. I live in very flat and windy place, and 45 is fine. The without difference is really minimal, especially considering their usage.

I think the reason 9velo doesn't come up here often is because you can probably get cheaper wheels, with the same quality. I found the price of mine (with a 15% code) good enough to just get them.

Build it up and rode a bit with it, will post proper pictures in future.

Components are
Tantan GR048 with custom paint (Red metallic, with the tops of bars being black, and matte varnish)
9Velo GV45 2.0 (already had them some months)
GRX820 (with GRX400 brakes)
RXL SL gravel bars at 42CM
Kocevlo stem at 90mm
Silca bar tape (Knockoff? of some ali seller, easily nicest bar tape ive used though)
Redshift grips (Knockoff of same ali seller, surprisingly great)

For now its just a road setup, because I don't actually have gravel where I live, the idea of this bike was to swap some wheels when I want to do some small trips to places with gravel. I run corsa pro 32mm tubeless on the 9velo wheels for now, and will probably keep doing that for a good while.

For me the geometry is very nice. Its definitely relaxed but as someoone with a short torso, a lot heavier than I ought to be and a quite bad back it makes it really comfortable. It's actually a stiffer than my Defy (non-SL frame), and handling is more stable. Keep in mind I'm just used to that bike, and a 20yo Trek OCLV carbon bike. This bike is obviously heavy (didnt weigh it yet), but for me that really doesn't matter much. I'm a heavy guy, and live in a flat area. I also have no intention of going fast. Fork will be chopped once I figure out the height (probably one spacer less)

No obvious flaws on the build. One small annoyance is quite large unpainted areas around some of the bolts, but I don't care too much. The varnish is also pretty rough around the BB area, but its hidden away and I have no issue with it.

looks very good - where did you finally purchase and how much was it?

575 USD exc shipping. That also includes thru axles, BB, stem and the fender mount. Ordered from Seraph. We'll see on the quality once I receive it, don't expect too much esp from the random bits, but easy to change out. Mainly just want to be able to put the basics together to give it a test spin.