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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: September 13, 2026, 04:00:21 AM »
It was one of the quickest cable routing in the history, honestly. It's quite easy, as the stem and the bar are two elements. You can firstly go through the first element, and then through the handlebar. The channel from the rear brake is also a standard one, the frameset are very well made, no sharp edges, all is great so I can say that without a watch it took me around 90 minutes to assembly the whole bike. I was rather not in a rush ;) Have a look on the manual I had attached, it's really helpful.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: September 07, 2026, 02:05:48 AM »
Just for others, the short manual how to assemble the handlebar. The manual is also attached to my previous post, but I added it here one more time. Regarding the geometry, the most important is that is not correct! You should reduce 3 cm from the stack, it's lower! I can show you the numbers later. That is why I have 8 spacers so 4 cm instead of 2 spacers as I assumed! Some quick update before some final review. Bike is really great, I was on the race in the mountains, Tatra Road Race, ~82 km, 2300 up, no issues. Conditions so the weather was really terrible, so wind and rain, and I felt very confident on it.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: September 03, 2026, 02:15:08 AM »
Okay, so that is not the final review, but let say the first impressions from 500 km. On the first race after 4 rides I was fifth, and third in my cat. M3, on Gran Fondo Warsaw. In general the bike is really fast, stiff, accelerate amazingly. I have 50 mm wheels Tagoola Pulse 50 UL on it. In my opinion around 1-2 km/h average faster than shuttle. Maybe due to the position, and 380 handlebar, maybe the conditions are different. I'm planning to compare those two, but after my vacation. Now I have 52t on the front, 10-33t on the back, on flats it's like a rocket! The total weight is on the edge of 7 kgs. On 5th of September I will have a mountain race Tatra Road Race, so the plan is to test the new machine. It's rather very demanding so I would be happy if I hit the top 100. Then I will have some full overview of the bike. For now it's 10/10, except the issue with the geometry, for me it's not correct.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 25, 2026, 07:39:19 AM »
On my bike, I calculated all numbers from the ground, it's ~60 mm of extra stack in the 120 mm Y bar. From the ground to the top of the cap is 895 mm, to the top of the handlebar is ~955 mm. The saddle is ~105.2 mm, shifters ~975-980, the same height as Shuttle SL, with 40 mm of spacers and 120 mm handlebar (Avian Canary II). Stack on the charts is for sure badly calculated and presented by Avenger. They marked it as a bottom of a frame, in reality it's rather the top or the top-middle part, where you have spacers, as someone already marked on previous posts.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 25, 2026, 02:43:30 AM »
I cannot open it, so I don't know. The mount is rather one of a kind, the angle is strange, the holes are angled. I tried to use one I have for the shuttle, and it's different. The mount fits, but the garmin is really angled. Could you please provide a screen. Moreover, someone above put a photo of how it looks.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 24, 2026, 02:33:28 AM »
I'm after 5 rides, and that includes one race. I have no issues with the headset, I did all based on the manual, so as follows, expander 10 Nm, screws and cap bolt 4 Nm. Usually it's around 5 Nm, sometimes it's 6 Nm. I have never seen more than 6 Nm for the carbon handlebar. I checked the values on my two torque wrenches. I attached the screen and my photo of the bike. I used 4 cm of spacers so 8 spacers. Are you sure that you assembled the spacers correctly, and the handlebar is properly connected/inserted. There are some holes and pins. The metal spacer/washer should go on the cable port grommet, it's not in the manual. Lastly, maybe the fork was not cut properly ? There is no space of too much space? Could you provide some photo of the bike and the space between the fork/spacers ?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 21, 2026, 03:25:34 AM »
I used the standard one, which the Avenger provided in the frameset. I have shuttle sl and even after 15000 km and several rides in the rain and even in snow, no issues or corrosion. Both are still working very smooth. I put a lot of grease in there, in the headset.

About the play, I didn't see any other thread, maybe you could post it also here ? Just for the future.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 20, 2026, 01:07:38 AM »
Yes, I'm after two rides, I did around 90 km for now. I have a race on Sunday so I have tapering, no big watts however I hit around 950 w for a quick and short sprint. I haven't noticed anything unusual. All is stable, tight and no play. Yesterday I did some small adjustments on my saddle and I checked the handlebar and headset, all is good, I checked the torque, I have 4 Nm on those elements, as it is in the manual - I attached it to the post.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 18, 2026, 05:57:50 AM »
Okay, so my build is finished. Just quick update from my perspective. I build the bike myself, like the others and previous Avenger Shuttle SL. I'm having Tagoola Pulse 50UL and 1x12 SRAM AXS with Force shifters and the rest is RED. As I will probably use XMCS crank, I bought the tripeak 3 in 1 BB. In general, i had no issues with cables, or with BB or screws, or honestly with any element of the frameset. Assembling was pretty easy and fast, I did all based on the R8-RS user manual. Only one elements is missing in the user manual, the screws and elements that holds the upper bearing or I haven't seen it. The routing with the Y bar was a pleasure and there is only one way of going thru. Those two pieces are very easy to connect. Top cap is pretty funny and with unusual shape. I'm wondering if 4 Nm and enough for handlebar and fixing screws. I will check and verify that on the ride today. I didn't encountered any issue with the headset play. I used 4 Nm for the top cap as adviced. No information what should be the tightening power for the handlebar and stem. Seatpost and clamp the same, no issue, Nm as in the manual. I didn't cut the seatpost. For the axles a used 10 Nm at the moment. I used 4 cm of spacers so 8 of them, not looks very bad, of course without any of them is the best. However, as I mentioned previously, after calculation I have the same level as on my shuttle. For me the comfort is the most important, I will survive how it looks.

I will prepare some reel and post on my instagram of course.

For now the weight is less than 7 kg in size 58, with pedals, bottle cages, garmin and varia mount.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 10, 2026, 10:06:39 AM »
Answering your question, I believe yes, but probably you would need to work on spacers. The shape of it is rather unusual. I promised some more photos and data, here you go - some weighting of the frameset. In my opinion it's not bad - https://youtu.be/ULC6ZW79f9w?is=SnlJQ3HM6drWxIO5



Most important information from my side is that definitely the geometry is quite different and someone above noticed that correctly! I don't know if that is really 30 mm, or even more, but it's not correct. I calculated all in the bikegeocalc.com and with only one or even no spacers the stack with the 120 mm stem should be the same as on my Shuttle SL. I assembled the frame with some wheels and seatpost only, to verify it before full assembling of the bike. That was really smart decision and I done some measurements from the floor! With one spacers I was around 4 cm lower than shuttle, only some quick measurements. So I decided to put all spacers and even add one round, they gave me only 3 cm of spacers. After that I hit my assumed and perfect handlebar height, the same as on my shuttle. Then I calculated the height of the saddle and the desired drop/grip drop will be reached. Unfortunately, I got only 6 spacers, so I'm waiting for 2 more from Avenger. Except that, the frameset is really stunning! Painting, how it's made, the set, all is perfect!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 06, 2026, 05:35:43 AM »
But why ? Maybe it's not the best name, but why would anyone teased someone faster on better frameset  ;) :D ;D Come on, not joking, we are not in the high school anymore. Why would anyone do that ? I'm not teasing other for having canyon or trek, which are crappy made, having issues with BB, with painting, cracking, breaking etc.

I have just got it! On live it looks.....stunning! Quick weighting, I will upload some unboxing. Frame 1158 g, fork 453 g, seatpost all 181 g, handlebar 405 g. I quickly calculated the same elements for Shuttle SL and the difference is 583 g. All for size 58. The idea is to have it around 7.2 kg.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New Avenger R8-RS
« on: August 05, 2026, 10:03:53 AM »
My frameset should arrive tomorrow, I will prepare some unboxing and a lot of photos. Attached you can find the photos I got from Hattie. I'm really looking forward to have it assembled really quickly, and to test and compare with my Shuttle SL.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: lightweight road frame
« on: July 29, 2026, 01:52:29 AM »
You have quite a lot, evolve, quickpro, bigrock, spcycle, ican, incolor. All depends what is your price expectations.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: lightweight road frame
« on: July 28, 2026, 08:49:48 AM »
Since I bought it I have 30 mm tires. Based on the information provided on the website, the maximum is 32 mm. I have quite wide wheels, internal 26 mm, external 34 mm - XMCS, those fits without any issues.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: lightweight road frame
« on: July 28, 2026, 07:54:41 AM »
Hmm, 6.1 kg for a bike in size 58, so large on a 40 mm wheels, tubeless setup, 30 mm Conti archetype tires, varia and garmin mount, two bottle cages, pedalsa, bike ready to go. I would say it's light. I could have some savings, probably the integrated handlebar, pedals, seatpost, saddle. However, I hit more than 1400 w, I want to feel safe, as the weight is rather important only on paper.

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