Peggy is awesome, makes short work of things..
I've already had the pleasure.

I wanted to get this frame, but unfortunately we didn't find a common language(this time not peggy!)
https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/full-carbon-racing-gravel-frame-gra04/

They replied to my question about the possibility of buying it. I bombarded them with questions about the differences between CFR707 and GRA04 since it’s the exact same geometry, but they only gave me the basic info:

Thanks for your inquiry of our carbon gravel frame GRA04.
USD655/pcs for UD matte. Includes frame, fork, seatpost, handlebar, headset.
It is UDH, BB86.

I asked about the T47 version because they offered BB86, and they said if I want T47, they have the G9 model instead.

Hey! Jumping in on this thread—along with the two frames being discussed, I’d throw in the Ican Graro as well. Between Carbonda, ICAN, and LightCarbon, which one have better quality and  build technology? I already get the geometries; I’m more curious about how they stack up overal