Quote from: s3si1u on October 27, 2026, 02:06:14 PMUn saluto anche agli altri due finalisti (VoiceVelo Echo e un Adapt B02 di Chain Bicycle).

May I ask what made you prefer the Tavelo Arden over the Voicevelo Echo?
Thanks

Quote from: jfcb on October 19, 2026, 08:45:16 AMSo, another SL9 copy it will be 

The one thing I didn't want to see...

Quote from: crazyravr on October 19, 2026, 02:04:50 PMSize Large. I'm 188cm

One more question: I see that the "plate" for the seatpost clamp (which isn't the most attractive part) has 3 holes, but it seems to me that there are only two screws, and the center hole is left "empty."

Could you help me understand this?

Thanks a lot.

I can't wait to see the frame assembled. 

Quote from: patliean1 on October 14, 2026, 10:18:26 AM
I also don't love how companies in this price range insist on bright and bold measurement markings on the seatpost.

Thoughtful to have but way overdone. My ICAN Graro is just as egregious

Yes, a glossy black graphic on a matte black base would be a more understated yet equally practical solution... perhaps it will be possible to request that, or the option to get the seatpost without any graphics will be offered (which wouldn't be the end of the world).

Quote from: KRoser on October 14, 2026, 08:57:13 AM
If anyone is interested Jim shared with me google photo gallery and there are some new photos and angles for LCR020.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FTEDtf4rexEZvqU47

Those handlebars still looks like 3dprinted prototype, so not final look so far.

The main photo for me is this, if that is 30mm tyre then that looks like a loads of space around if my GP5000 35mm (38mm measured) from my LCR018 would fit to LCR020 without problems, witch they look like they will fit that would be perfect.
Also I kind of like that di2 battery placement with cover, I think that is much better then in seatpost or on canyons where you need to take bb out to get to battery.

So far I think LCR020 looks pretty good, my xxl size will be also one of the last production batches so it will be long winter for me to wait, looking forward to this bike

I took a look at the photo gallery (thanks for sharing it).

The frame looks really good; however, one detail I really don't like: the rubber cover for the seatpost clamp....the shape looks a bit ugly to me—I'd prefer something like this (see photo).

Quote from: fijiroger on October 14, 2026, 06:15:21 AM
Put my order in:
LCR020-D: size 54 Carbon aero race road frame.
Including frame/fork/seat clamp/seat post(0mm offset) + front&rear thru-axles +headset+spacers +integrated handlebar HBR17+economical T47 BB +1 pc spare rear hanger

Went for matte black no logo as going to decal my own as prefer a minimalist style (thanks to chatgpt).
Main contact Carol Du | Sales.
Expected delivery December, will be a great Christmas present.

Details on other frames
The first size (M/54) will be ready around Nov. If everything works well, we'll develop the S/52, L/56 and XL/58 molds together, then follow up with the XS/49, XXL/61 and XXS/47 later.

The custom logo font isn't bad... though the lettering might be a bit too small and widely spaced, given the length of the word.

I would position the "LCR020" text (perhaps adding "-D" as well) differently: still on the top tube, but closer to the head tube, and/or on the top surface of the top tube near the seat post or head tube.

How much did you spend, all-inclusive?

Quote from: Ada on October 14, 2026, 01:11:58 AM
As many of you know, we've been making carbon wheels for quite a while. Thank you for the support. It's what let us keep going in an industry we love.

We ride every week, and over the years we've ridden a lot of frames. At some point we got curious: could we build one ourselves?

So we're making a road frame, and we'll share how it goes along the way. The first prototype is being prepared. When we have something real to show, we'll update this thread.

We'd love to hear from you.

• Which sizes would you want first?
• What matters most to you in a frame?
• What tire width do you usually run on the road?
• What would you most like to see in the next update: photos, weight, or test results?

First of all, I'd like to see some originality in the frame shapes....so many frames coming out lately are basically copies of the SL9... I really hope *not* to see another SL9 clone!

Personally, regarding the design, I'd like something along the lines of the Factor Elara (without the "big" fork), Cervélo Aspero 5, Quick Pro Er:One, Merida Reacto, or Canyon Endurace CFR... perhaps paired with a riser handlebar (Tavelo style, not Y1rs).

Another very important aspect for me is the attention paid to graphics (also the logo's name and font) and colors...a comprehensive approach to the graphic design and color scheme can really elevate the frame and give it a "premium" look.

I think UCI certification would be highly appreciated.

I like the SL8/SL9 geometries, though perhaps you could be a bit bolder with a steeper seat tube angle (STA) and slightly longer reach.

As for sizes, I'd prioritize the most popular ones: from 52 to 56/58.

A reasonable price is, of course, always appreciated.

Good luck with the project!

Quote from: Sander2177 on October 12, 2026, 08:33:12 AM
On another note, what's with all the hate for this style of bar compared to traditional integrated bars? Looking at the geometry, we're only talking about 20-25mm of rise with otherwise very conventional numbers. To me they seem like a sensible way of getting the fit right while keeping the front end clean and integrated.

I'm also getting interested in riser handlebars...putting ergonomics and geometry aside, what I'd really like to know is whether there's any difference in terms of feel and bike handling compared to a traditional handlebar...I haven't read anything about those aspects yet.

Quote from: crazyravr on October 09, 2026, 09:39:28 AM
Frame received. Much faster than expected. Ordered with custom painting Sept. 11th. Received Oct. 08.
Everything screams quality here from the communication to packing to paint and finishes. Based on this we will be ordering a Graro for my wife.
The bad news is that I am currently packing for a Mallorca trip and another is that I will wait until 11:11 to get a groupset

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BTSyK77byQsg04zBcOCatHGJMZZQdnka/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CQsZ0ZW7DC6nwornZZNsj2exP-HhPpWc/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WxtmXcRKLR1uHvggUaglJ7vdRlKBG-UP/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yu521LugHpd2D77N97WGmQCbVWIRRr2p/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dq05bMNzyse6byWClOLo8gXrWLohQ3vt/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1njxyhjYcf_ykMDS0pGu6zVltlugiCmer/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qkCy0Vjs5XDp4LSZ2dS7d5rJIfLO0s6l/view?usp=sharing

Very nice, congratulations.

Before leaving for Mallorca, can you post a photo of the "assembled" frame with fork, seatpost, and handlebars?

Thanks!

EDIT: Frame size?

Quote from: giorgiobuccio on October 08, 2026, 04:08:19 PM
I really don't think this is a widespread problem with this frame. I think I was just unlucky.

Even frames of the same model can have small differences in dimensions. If the opening in the frame is slightly larger and the seatpost is slightly smaller, the fit may be less precise and cause problems. So you can be unlucky with a particular frame and seatpost combination, while other people have no issues with the same model.

Problems around the saddle and seatpost are more common than you might expect: seatposts can slip, and saddles can tilt because the clamp doesn't hold them properly. This is a sensitive area on many frames, including those from Western brands. It's not something specific to this product.

At first, I received a seatpost with a smooth surface. After I explained the problem to Chris, they sent me another one with a rough, anti-slip coating to help stop it slipping. Similar solutions have also been used by Western brands.

I'm not trying to blame anyone. Unfortunately, these things happen. My case was quite bad, but we managed to fix it. I think I was simply a bit unlucky. Even very small movements can cause a lot of noise, because the hollow carbon frame amplifies the sound.

I have no idea how widespread the problem might be, but in this discussion, three or four users have experienced an issue similar to yours.

While it is true that in some cases applying electrical tape to the end of the seatpost was enough to fix it, considering we are talking about a $1,400–$1,700 frame, such problems really shouldn't occur (and let me be clear: this applies to Western-made frames as well).

Quote from: TheBikeLab on October 08, 2026, 08:16:18 AM

Im sorry, but i dont know anything about noise issues casued by the seatpost. I did not sell frameset to giorgio and that case wasnt consulted with me.

There are no other seatposts available.

Thanks

I was understand that they were aware of the problem and had added a layer of anti-slip paint... which, according to what @giorgiobuccio wrote, didn't solve it.

Quote from: TheBikeLab on October 08, 2026, 05:24:36 AM
I spoke about UCI certification with VoiceVelo yesterday - They told me that all drawings and documentation is approved by UCI. The procedure will now proceed to physical product inspection.

What do they say regarding the noise issues caused by the seatpost?

Do they plan to modify it, or is it limited to applying a layer of anti-slip paint?

Is it possible to know if there are other versions of the seatpost with different offsets and/or without the "hole"?

Thanks.

Quote from: oker_s on October 07, 2026, 11:34:23 PM
I'm currently looking to order a frame from ICAN ($730 frame + $69 custom paint). However, when talking to them, they are asking for an additional $129 for shipping & prepaid taxes .(to germany)

Including Paypal the total offer is 969 Dollar...

How much did you guys end up paying in total for shipping/taxes on your recent orders?

May I ask what kind of custom color you requested for that price?

Thanks.

@TheBikeLab can you tell us something about the UCI homologation request?

Thanks

Quote from: giorgiobuccio on October 07, 2026, 01:49:13 PM
Hi, sorry! That photo is from the Velo catalogue, so it's not my bike. I don't know the measurements you asked about or what wheels they are. I think the wheels are just a render with a made-up brand name. At least, I don't know that brand.

I've attached a photo of the seatpost clamp taken apart. It may look damaged, but that's just grease. The clamp is not damaged.

Unfortunately, I had a big problem with noise from the seatpost. There was no noise at first, but after a few months, when the weather got warmer, it became very annoying. I tried cleaning everything and using carbon paste, but it didn't help. Chris kindly sent me a modified seatpost from China for free, but that didn't solve the problem either.

I rode for months with this noise. It was clearly caused by very small sideways movements of the seatpost inside the frame. This can happen with Western brands too. Even a very small gap can cause it. It became so annoying that I was almost ready to send the frame back or find another solution with Chris.

In the end, a mechanic solved it with threadlocker on the clamp and an extra layer of epoxy resin. I'm not sure exactly what resin he used. He told me it was a product used to make shower trays less slippery.

This almost completely solved the problem. Now I only hear some noise during races, when I push very hard, for example when accelerating while seated. That puts a lot of twisting force on the seatpost. I haven't read about anyone else having this problem, so I think I was just unlucky. The main thing is that it's almost completely solved now.

The other thing I've had some trouble with is also one of the things I like most: the handlebar is really stiff. It's excellent in that respect. When you try another bike with a slightly wider and more flexible handlebar, it feels like it's made of paper.

But bumps and vibrations are hard on my wrists, also because of the unusual shape of the handlebar. I ride this bike every day, and the wrist pain has become a problem. I can manage it, but it can be quite painful. I think a stem 1 cm shorter would let me hold the hoods more comfortably and would probably help.

Overall, I really like the bike and I'm happy I bought it.

Sorry, the photo I posted (just to show you which measurement I was interested in) probably caused some confusion... when you have a moment, could you take that measurement on your bike (see yellow line)?

I read your posts in this thread and saw your Echo with 60/65mm wheels... I was interested in those wheels, not the ones in the photo. 

As for the noise, I gather it's caused by excessive tolerances between the frame and seatpost... however, I was wondering if the "split" design of the seatpost might be contributing to or exacerbating the issue (given the increased flex it offers).

I hope Voicevelo finds a definitive solution to the problem.

Thanks.

PS: If I'm not mistaken, we're fellow countrymen, so if you'd prefer to reply in Italian via PM, we might understand each other better.