Hi all,

Has anyone found any GRX compatible cranksets/chainsets (using the 2.5mm wider chainline) that come in 165mm long crank arms? Would like to use something lighter than the GRX600 series.

Current options:

• Rotor make an offset axle system for their Adhlu/Vegast systems
  
• Praxis Works Zayante/Alba GR
  

what else is out there?

Thanks

You'd be best looking at 29er hardtail mountain bikes with a rigid fork.

Tideacebike

I've been racing across road, gravel, XC and cyclocross for nearly 10 years. I'm a smaller statured rider with narrower shoulders, so I've been looking to go narrower at the front end of the bike for a while - both for comfort and aerodynamics. These bars from Balugoe on AliExpress ticked a lot of boxes on paper and had a decent number of reviews, so I decided to take the plunge and write something up for others who might be weighing up the same decision.

To give some context, I have a BEng in Product Design and Manufacturing and I've worked in cycling design, manufacturing, and retail - specifically on high-end additive manufactured components used in elite competition.

Why these bars?
I wanted to replace my Deda Superzero carbon bars (40cm, ~£250 RRP) with something narrower. I chose the 370mm (drop) / 325mm (hood) option from Balugoe, which looked like their best-selling model. The store has been trading on AliExpress since 2017 and seemed active. With some app discounts, I paid £60 all-in including shipping.

Delivery and Packaging
Delivery was faster than expected. The order tracked all the way through until it reached Evri in the UK, and customs clearance was smooth. Packaging was solid — bubble wrapped inside a felt sleeve, then wrapped again inside a mailer. No cardboard box, but no damage either. Simple and effective.

Finish and First Impressions
The finish is matte black paint — not raw carbon, which would have looked better in my opinion and potentially shaved off a few grams. Branding is discreet and hidden once the bars are installed. The overall impression is clean and well thought out. They came with some rounded, aero-style bar end plugs that look a lot like the ones from ENVE's SES range, which was a nice surprise.

I weighed them at 235g on kitchen scales — bang on with the Superzero carbon bars they replaced, despite the narrower profile.

Specs and Construction
Width at drops: 370mm
Width at hoods: 325mm
Weight: 235g
Internal routing ports: Through the rear of the clamp (for TiCR/ACR/DCR systems) and underside exits if you're not routing through the stem
Inside the cable ports, the carbon looked clean and free from wrinkles or flashing. The drop markings were also some of the best I've seen — easy to use, aligned well, and helped dial in the lever placement quickly.

Installation
I installed these on a Pinarello Dogma F using the TiCR internal routing system — same as Deda's ACR/DCR setups. No issues with routing hydraulic hoses through the bar and into the stem. Clamping areas felt solid, and the bars didn't creak or shift under torque. There's no printed torque value, but the build didn't feel sketchy at any point.

Ride Impressions
I've done 140km on them so far, mostly on rolling terrain and rough UK roads. No surprises — the bars performed well. The narrower position is honestly the most comfortable I've ever been on the bike. I felt more relaxed, my shoulders weren't fighting the position, and it made staying aero a lot more natural.

On descents nearing 70km/h, the narrower width felt composed, not twitchy, and gave me the confidence to stay low and carry speed. Out of the saddle sprints in the drops still felt stable. Any narrower and I think it would've started to feel too nervous, but 370mm seems like a sweet spot for balancing aero and control.

Support
I messaged the Balugoe store once pre-purchase and got a prompt, useful reply. I haven't had to reach out since, so can't comment on ongoing support or issues resolution.

Final Thoughts
For £60, these bars are a bit of a steal. Obviously, you're not getting ENVE-level prestige or long-term brand reputation, but the execution is solid and performance is on par with much more expensive options. If you're a smaller rider, a woman, a teen, or just someone who wants to go narrower without compromising stability, these are worth a serious look. For the broader-shouldered, they also offer wider sizes.

I'd love to see a raw carbon version offered in the future — that would elevate the aesthetic even further and might win over a few more skeptics. But as they are, these are well designed, well finished, and far better than I expected at this price.

If anyone's on the fence about ordering, happy to answer questions or provide more photos. Always happy to test and review more products with an honest, engineering-led eye — especially when brands are trying to bring decent quality gear to a wider audience without the premium price tag.

Quote from: Moyfly on June 10, 2025, 09:55:00 AM
Thanks for the recommendations, the Elves Mori seems a very good option, and they have a distributor in Spain. It's missing the in-frame storage but I think I can give up that. Some people complain about the max tyre clearance but I think 45 it's more than enough, if I need more I will take my MTB

Sounds like you have a similar take to me on tyre clearance. 45mm is more than adequate and all this hype around using MTB tyres but the riders creating the hype don't seem to be beating all the riders on gravel tyres.

Ican is a great manufacturer, their Graro is excellent quality. I've made an enquiry about the GR04 to see if I can get one in the UK.

To add, the frame from light carbon that hambini showed on his channel doesn't go small enough and same for the new Velobuild AeroGrav - shame for both of them as their road bikes go a lot smaller.

I'm the same height so from experience, pay close attention to the seat tube length. The shorter the seat tube, the more seatpost out the frame generally the better the bike looks, and shouldn't feel too big when you ride it. My road bike is a Pinarello Dogma F size 43 (length of seat tube) so lots of seatpost out and it looks right.

For Chinese bikes look at the sloping frame designs like Seraph/TanTan (can't remember model numbers but you'll see the one). The SP Cycle G069 looks like it should work (45cm seat tube) but given it's a clone of the canyon Grail who would say the XS is too big I'm not sure.

I bought an ICAN Graro size 49cm/XS and it's too big. The seatpost sits on the bottle bosses and would need cutting to make fit for someone so small. It would look like the saddle is on the top tube. The ICAN Graro is based on the Scott Addict Gravel geometry (which are considered larger than their stated size) so that rules out others similar like the BXT 135 Gravel which is another Addict gravel inspired frame.

The Elves Mori AeroX looks to be a good shout with a very short seat tube but it's a racier geometry than most.

A grevil clone could be an option as pinarellos sizing is generally excellent for short people but I don't recommend clones on principle... OEM designs are a different matter.

Quote from: JonMS on March 23, 2025, 08:31:55 PM
New wheels for the purple bike (6560 wavy). 54/41T Chainring on the purple bike.

New wheels for the blue bike are on the way. 50/37T Chainring on the blue bike.

Both bikes have around 2K miles on them each with no issues.

Is the grey Grevil clone from XMCarbonSpeed? You managed to get it without any mounting points too?

Brand new ICAN Graro carbon gravel frameset in gradient silver, size 49cm. Just delivered, but unfortunately it's slightly too big for me at 5'3".

This cost me over £830 to import including taxes and duties, so this is a great opportunity to pick up a high-end frameset at a discount without any of the hassle. The frame is a similar geometry to the Scott Addict Gravel size XS. Looking at the manufacturing quality I'm thoroughly impressed at how clean and well finished the frame is.

I have the warranty card that is unregistered so you can register a 2 years warranty.

What's included:
- Full carbon frame (Toray T700/T800/T1000)
- Carbon fork
- Carbon seatpost
- Headset bearings
- Front and rear thru axles
- UDH Rear derailleur hanger

Key features:
- Full internal cable routing
- T47 threaded bottom bracket (CNC-machined alloy shell — perfectly aligned, no issues)
- Max tyre clearance: 700 x 45mm
- Designed for 1x or 2x gravel groupsets
- Universal Derailleur Hanger (UDH)
- Aero tube shaping

Hambini has reviewed this frame, and in my experience owning several Chinese carbon frames, this is one of the cleanest I've seen.

Selling simply because it's the wrong size for me. Ideal for riders around 5'5" and up.

Based in Nottingham. UK shipping available for £15.

Quote from: Maximus on April 10, 2025, 04:25:32 AM
Thanks a lot for the input! I did end up ordering the SPcycles G068. I took me a long to to decide between the three models that SPcycles does. optically I prefer the G020 with the dropped seat stays but it is very high and short. for this short rider I needed a frame with less horizontal top tube. The G056 to be honest is optically less pleasing to I went for the G068.
Would have gotten the Easedon too based on the recommendation, but I need a microspline body. I asked them if if is available and haven't heard back yet (only just asked).

Has the frame arrived? Just wanted to hear your thoughts on the fit if you've managed to build it?

I'm a similar height and I've ordered and received the ICAN Graro but I prefer more seat post out the seat tube than I've been able to get on that frame.

Quote from: MAz on January 16, 2025, 08:28:58 AM
Hey,

I'm considering buying a carbone gravel Frameset. I'm considering the Ican Graro or the new Elves Aerox. I'll occasionally use it for CX races but otherwise it will be for gravel. I like fast and stiff bikes.
In your opinion, what would be the best ?

Thanks

Did you end up getting either of these framesets?

Quote from: gofasterstripes on April 15, 2025, 07:13:54 AM
Going back to chainrings has anyone managed to successfully fit a 46t 1x chain ring?

I tried to swamp out the 2x 50-34 set up to a 1x 46t, both set ups using Praxis chainrings but the 1x chain ring is almost touching the frame. For both set ups I used the same chainset spacers were are maxed out to make the rotor cranks mirror the chain line of GRX chain sets

From what I understand , the 1x looks to have a 3mm offset to reduce the chain line,  although this is not listed on the praxis website it seems pretty common in 1x  chainrings when I was looking into this last night.

I'll go back to 2x for the time being and start to looking for zero offset 1x chainrings as they must exist?

Could you run the 1x chainring as the outer chainring on a 2x GRX chainset and then not run the inner ring?