I had previously mentioned being on the verge of moving everything 2cm forward. I did and happy so far, although it has been 3 short rides as I recover from an injury. The bike is a lightcarbon LCR018. My goal was to maintain the same saddle to shifter reach while moving everything forward.

The saddle is 25mm more forward -15mm offset to 0 offset post and slid saddle forward on the rails
The shifters are 25mm more forward - 90mm stem to 110mm stem and moved the shifters down the bar a bit more. I have gained 4-5mm of stack with the longer bar.

2 rides on the trainer and 1 on the road, about 60km total. I feel less weight on the hands, position feels comfortable but I do feel it more in the quads. On longer rides, will be curious to see how the weight on the hands are, since I am currently 88kg. Last night I slid my cleats 8mm back, as far back as they go on my mid foot adapters, and dropped the saddle 5mm. Hoping this will get a bit more ham/glute. I haven't done anything over 45km yet but will be very curious to see how the bike feels at speed.

Probably not as crazy as some other modern fits on race bikes, but this is a good way to start as I plan to build an LCR020 over the winter with this more forward fit in mind.

Edit: Correct me if I am wrong but I guess my current position will now have 10mm less saddle to bar drop. 5mm from the longer stem and 5mm from dropping the seat post when I adjusted the cleats. So it would make sense I can drop the front end 10mm while maintaining the same drop as before?!?

You mean that you found it cheaper to order individual groupset bits from these sellers, instead of buying the mini groupset as one item, right? Kind of crazy that the shifters cost 600$. Shimano di2 is so wildly overpriced. And yet ltwoo sucks so much ass that it's only a matter of time until i switch to shimano...
Thx for sharing the xls.

Correct ordering the parts individually. But make sure you try to group the items from the same seller when/where possible while. There are some discounts on shipping when you bundle from the same seller, since they can box parts together. The shifters were DG Riding and the rest was Anrancee. At face value, ordering individually is more expensive. However when being able to use more coupons, the discounts lead to more savings.

I moved mine about 4cm forward in total. Yes, 4cm. But it’s been the best thing I’ve ever done in my cycling career. More power. More comfort. It took some time getting adjusted but I’m fully on board with the progressive geometry.

I am on the verge of moving my saddle 2cm froward and moving from 90-110mm stem. When you did the 4cm move, did you do anything with your cleats?

nice did you order from Yiwu or Anrancee?

Anrancee for the parts listed above and some other smaller orders. DG Riding Bike Store for the shifters. All orders have had no tax.

Only thing I would caution is DG Riding Bike Store. The title and description clearly state shifters and calipers. Order arrived with no calipers. They would not do anything about it. "The picture only shows shifter" was their defense, regardless of what the title and listing clearly stated. Went to return the shifters but got a discount offer from Ali X that covered 2/3 of the caliper cost.


Only time I have paid tax with Ali Express, was a set of elite wheels shipped with Canada Post.

I will be curious too see if all the handlebars have a true 30mm rise in the end, like discussed earlier in the thread. Are LC adjusting the measurements to give a constant 30mm or is it 30mm on a 100mm stem and then you add/subtract a little based on the stem length?

It seems from Patrick's video on the hyper 2.0 the bars seem to have more stack due to the stem length. Then bars like the Tavelo Rise will loose stack with longer stems, due to the negative angle.

I don't like the look of the positive stem as much but I do like the idea that we should be getting close to the 30mm stack from the bar. Can't wait to see some more pictures as they come out.

I have been using them for 6 months now. No problems or complications since installation. I did notice, however, that it was very difficult to get a DUB crankset through. I have never had that with other crank and bottom bracket combinations.

It seems like their bearings are very tight. I bought the CEMA BB and had to get a new bearing sent to me. My 24mm crank would not physically fit through the bearing. Kudos to CEMA for being very quick to help resolve the issue.

Since that, I have about 2500km on the BB and have been very happy.

I agree the $300 paint being required now is annoying but I the value with the $300 is still hard to beat. The bike frame with bar I am estimating with PP fees is about $1425 USD.

Frames with bar + shipping and fees (QP prices may be slightly off, had to convert from CAD to USD)
-LCR020 - $1425 USD with riser HB
-XMCS VRT - $2195 USD with riser HB
-QP ER 1 - $2335 USD with zypher SSL HB
-QP Blade - $1825 USD with zypher SL HB

If QP had a riser bar, I could see the blade being competition. Maybe the new RIME Aero QP is releasing in the next few days could be a contender. However a frame with 35mm clearance and a riser bar at this price, it seems LC is still the value champ for what you get.