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My Size L frame arrived today. Overall, the finish and build quality look very clean out of the box.

Actual Weights (without thru-axles)
  • Frame (Size L): 1,400g
  • Fork: 506g
  • Seatpost: 250g (definitely on the heavier side)

Initial Observations
  • Bottle clearance: Can confirm the bottle clearance issue is still present in Size L. If you mount a bottle cage directly to the downtube storage compartment door, you will need an extender/drop bracket to fit a second bottle comfortably.
  • Fork slots: I ordered the fork without utility slots, but the outlines/ghosting of the slots are still visible under the finish. It does not bother me much, but worth noting for anyone expecting a completely smooth profile.
  • I dry-fit a Ritchey Switch headset I had lying around, but ended up with an awkward gap at the head tube.

For those who have already built up this frame: which headset model/stem setup did you use, and did you manage to get a flush fit without a visible gap?

Will post detailed photos once the full build is underway.

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Just did a ~4km test ride to bed in brakes etc. Rides great from first impression. Still have a bit of a chimney above the stem, due to playing around with the stack. Will probably leave the spacers how they are right now (20mm including headset topcap) and shorten the steerer. Running 2.4" Pirelli Scorpion XC RH atm. but I think I'll go down to 2.25" thunder burts for my normal riding.
Looks great! I was thinking of getting the 2.4" Scorpions once my frame arrives, too. What made you decide to go down to 2.25" Thunder Bursts instead?

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You can get cage extenders to move the bottle up. I also wonder if this is specific to certain sizes. Mine is a L and when it arrives, I will let everyone know whether I can fit a bottle on the hatch + seat tube
Yes, that's what I was getting at. But if the cage blocked the handle, that would be bad too. I also ordered a size L. Hopefully this won't be an issue at that size.

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I managed to build it up today,
still not even ride ready, but at least it looks finished. Don´t mind the tyres, i am waiting for a bit bigger thunderos, but for now it´s what I have on hand.

The build went pretty okay, I managed to build it without cable routing tool. It was a bit pain around few places, mainly handlebars, but i managed.
BB is not alu shell, both sides are bonded independently. The water bottle on screws on the storage cover are unusable for bottle holder if you also have a holder on seat tube. The storage space is extremely small and with the cables in foam running on bottom, there´s really not a lot of room. I will have to source bag from thinner fabric so hopefully, I will fit there at least multitool, plug kit, pump and tyre levers.

The wuzei chainring is 44t with 4.2 offset screwed on road dub cranks. Sadly my 40t rival chainring does not fit - too big offset on road cranks, so i will need to find something different because the wuzei one is extremely noisy. The chainring has around 2mm space around chainstay.
Not being able to use both bottle holders is concerning. Would it be possible to mount the one on the cover further up if it had slots instead of holes, or would that interfere with the cover's handle?

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I'll snap some better photos once the sun is out.
What is the fit like for the painted downtube storage cover? Jack emailed me to say that they had some fitting issues with the painted covers, so he's also sending me an unpainted one.

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What kind of paint job did you choose and do you know how much it costs?
I went with Pantone 4515C + pearl glossy finished. Painting was 90€ for one custom color and 30€ for any additional color.

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Is the shipping with tax included?
Probably? I honestly forgot to ask, but it's 130€ for shipping so I'd assume so.

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Jack told me that they now have size L in stock. I have just placed my order. I will report back once the frame arrives. I paid €767 including shipping for the frame, custom paint job, fork without strap holes, zero offset seat post, axles, headset and bag.

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That looks like a size S, might look better on a bigger frame.

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I wanted to buy one, but Jack told me that they will still need about 20 days to produce size L. 

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I saw that there's a new version of this frame on AliExpress called G2Max which now has clearance for up to 50mm tires and comes with a different fork that has eyelets.

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Nice build! Definitely looks like an awesome option for a cheap gravel bike. Three questions:
What size did you get and what's your seat height?
Did you by chance measure the bare frame weight before building the bike?
What would be the real max tyre clearance? They say 45c but hopefully you can fit something bigger. Idk if you have some gravel tyres to try but I guess people are interested in the maximum fit possible
I went for a size L (51 cm). My usual seat height is around 76 cm.

As you can see in one of my previous posts, the frame weighs 1610g in size L and the fork 430g.

The tyres I have on measure 37 mm. I still have 10–11 mm clearance at the front and 9–10 mm at the back. So 45 mm is really the maximum I'd put on.

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I finally found the time to put most of this together. I just have to bleed the brakes and wax the chain.

I encountered an issue with the Kocevlo X01 integrated bars. The included compression ring was far too thick, leaving a large gap at the headset. I ended up designing and 3D printing my own compression ring to get the fit flush.

I installed a 105 Di2 groupset. This is a bit of an overkill for a cheap frame like this. However, I already had it sitting in a box from another project. The rest of the components are Elitewheels SLR Gravel and a Magene PES515 crank.

All in, weighing about 9.2kg, which is definitely not a weight weenie build, but no surprises there.

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Thank you! How does it look like in the sunlight? Still can't decide green or silver.
I think the green looks great! It has a sparkly effect that is especially noticeable in the sun.

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Here's a link to the general inspection of the frame. Apologies for the length, I'm pretty new to this and a little slow. Hope this helps some questions. Just a note that there's no cable stops for the front derailleur so only modern 2x with cable stop front mech (FD) will work oit of the box. I'm just over thinking the setup as I have many 2x options if I go down that route.

https://youtu.be/kU4n1rb_sPw?si=qkbFuEMC2PvJJqAr
That's very odd that yours doesn't have one, because mine definitely came with a cable stop for the front derailleur.

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