as someone who ride this frame like a tribike (saddle so far fwd) with clipon aerobars on reach extenders, this frame is as close as it gets to a tri bike posi, at least as close almost equal my tt912. as your saddle go higher, the saddle isnt going further back (thus your seattube angle increases, like old plasma)
so i get it why Seb Kienle used a modded ScottFoil as tri bike (he's sponsored by Scott, but he still had access for top tier lightest Plasma if he wanted).
downside, missing toptube boss-mount for bento box, or any internal storage for tools.

if anyone on a budget for tri bike build, this frame is worth a consideration as its almost half(but dont include tri cockpit) of tt912 or other tri frame price. but you need to go full internal cabling, n i suggest go axs for least cable goin thru the top bearing

I happened to come across this frame while searching for a triatlon bike. How much van you get the saddle above the BB in size 56? That isn’t entirely clear to me

Can you still get the ICAN TT017? I cant find it anywhere now.

Last week I received another quote for it.

I'm in the process of buying a bike for my triathlons. During my search, the option of building one myself from a lesser‑known brand came up, which is of course financially quite interesting. Since I don’t need to win the Olympics with it, performance and quality that are simply good are enough for me perfection isn’t necessary.

I’ve already read quite a few topics here on Chinertown and on the frames I’m currently considering, but I’m not getting a clear picture of everything. So that’s why I’m starting a new topic, hoping you can help me further.

At the moment, my search has led me to the ICAN TT017 or the Winow/BXT TT119. Both seem suitable for my goals, although I have a better feeling about the quality of the ICAN, is that correct? But I also find the sizing for the ICAN quite difficult to determine. On a Cervélo P‑Series I would need a size 54, possibly with a stem that’s 1 cm longer. And since the TT119 has an almost identical geometry, that choice is easy, but for the ICAN it isn't Are there people who can give sizing advice for the ICAN TT017 when using the Cervélo P‑Series size 54 as a reference?

And not unimportant when buying a bike, I couldn’t find much about the ride performance of the ICAN. How is the comfort, stiffness, etc. of the bike?
So basically I have three questions. The first one has already been discussed quite a bit, but I'm asking it again just as a double‑check.

1. Is there any quality difference between the ICAN and the Winow/BXT
2. Which size ICAN TT017 would you recommend if a Cervélo P‑Series 54 is my reference?
3. And how does the ICAN perform in terms of comfort, stiffness, and general ride characteristics?