Here's a listing on AliExpress with a 108mm deep / wide option, but rims only. However, the 'product details' suggests they will build complete wheels too if you reach out to them. The 80mm deep x 23mm ID rim looks good to me too...no clue about quality, though.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809672024937.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

Quote from: Sander2177 on November 25, 2025, 04:43:46 AM
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https://serenadebikes.net/23mm-internal-high-performance-aero-bike-wheels-build-with-carbon-fiber-spokes-p6704522.html   these are the 23mm inner 80mm link
75mm deep 700c clincher carbon disc road bicycle wheels

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Whatsapp them they can build you a set of wheels

That 75mm deep rim looks great for TT/triathlon but I don't see it on their website. Where did you find it?

Ok, as nobody seems to have this frame (or is willing to admit it ), I will ask a few new questions: Does anybody have any opinions about this frame or know who the actual manufacturer is? I assume Velobuild is just a distributor.
Cheers,

I would buy one too but the size L does not appear to be available
You can use a standard stem and handlebar with the right kind of headset and dust cap. I can't tell what kind of headset the Lexon frame comes with if you do not buy the integral stem/bars. Maybe one of the AliExpress shops can send you a photo? You want a dust cap with a flat top that has a cut out or individual cable ports, but without the special shape and pins to fit a proprietary stem, like this company sells:
https://www.firstcomponents.com/internal-cable-routing/
An example:

Does anybody have the Velobuild GF-002 and can comment on build quality, tire clearance, and actual frame weight?
http://www.velobuildmall.com/products/2021-velobuild-carbon-fiber-integrated-gravel-bike-frame-hidden-cables

...The same frame (open mold) is sold elsewhere as an Airwolf or Yao Flying YFR045, although different weights and tire clearances are claimed.

Interestingly, although it's obviously a totally different frame, the geometry appears to be identical to the Carbonda CFR-696!

Or of you don't get a response...here's a website in which you can compare frames with really close geometry to figure out what standover will be. It looks like Carbonda CFR-707 has the wrong standover number entered (50mm - haha) so don't go by that!:
https://www.bike-stats.de/en/search_for_geometry?typ=GB&oberrohrvon=515&oberrohrbis=535&sitzrohrvon=440&sitzrohrbis=460&reachvon=365&reachbis=385&stackvon=532&stackbis=552&federwegvon=-20&federwegbis=20&modelljahrvon=2021
...in the case of a CFR-707 size XS, I'm guessing about 710mm-720mm standover - a couple centimeters less if you use 650B wheels.

Please let us know how that goes! Thanks.

I thought I would have a go at contacting TopCarbon about this frame too. A single order is clearly not of much interest to them but they would take my money never the less. Best case scenario was 2-3 months before they would make the frame, presumably when the next bulk order is due, per Zdrenka89's post. With possible shipping delays that could easily be 4-6 months or more before the frame arrives...No thank you!

What I shame, this frame looked really good to me and likely is the same as this (if not a clone):
https://www.cxmagazine.com/pro-bike-profile-eric-brunner-new-race-winning-blue-norcross-cyclocross-gravel-bike

Quote from: Zdrenka89 on November 04, 2021, 02:28:30 AM
I did have contact with them and they are mostly interested in selling in bulk which probably explains why they don't have a very B2C focused website. That said they were ok selling a single frameset for me for 500$ excluding shipping. However shipping time will be long as they wanted me to wait until they produce my size in bulk for other customers.

Mila, Did you find any further information about this frame or about the manufacturer? I am interested too. The frame design looks really good and appears to have similar "progressive" geometry as BMC's URS gravel bike (long reach and 70 degree head tube). The BMC has many good reviews for its geometry and I would think this frame would handle similarly to that.

From what I can tell, Topcarbon seems like a real manufacturer, as they do not appear to just be reselling open mold products...but it is odd there is almost no information about them online, such as reviews. Maybe they are manufacturing for name brand companies and don't sell much under their own name? Or maybe just haven't become established yet?

Quote from: mila on September 24, 2021, 02:58:45 PM
Hey all,

I have not find any information on TopCarbon TCGF066 gravel frame nor TopCarbon Technology company.
Links:
https://www.topcarbontech.com/product/tcgf066/
https://topcarbontech.en.alibaba.com/product/1600178396500-824172682/2021_New_High_Quality_Carbon_Fiber_Bike_Frame_Gravel_With_Flat_Mount_Disc_Brake.html?spm=a2700.shop_plgr.41413.13.2c3b4792tRNHDv

The geometry looks spot on and only down side for me is that it has only BB86. So I'm considering a purchase.
Does anybody have any experience with this frame, e.g. build quality?
It looks like the frame can be purchased only on Alibaba.
Does anybody have any experience with buying from TopCarbon on Alibaba?

Source: TopCarbon

I'm also thinking about the Velobuild frames but leaning toward the GF02 instead of GF01.  Newer frame, a tad slacker head angle (means more fork trail too), fully concealed cables, and although $100 more, it comes with integral bars and stem, which seem pretty cool IMO, even if the cables are a pain to install.  The Carbonda CFR707 seem popular on this forum and probably a good frame, but it appears to be heavier

That frame looks nice! However, if that geometry table is accurate, it's worrisome that the 59cm has a 73.5 degree head angle (steep for a gravel bike) with a 50mm fork rake. That would make for some twitchy steering!

Quote from: fliug3rrr on September 24, 2021, 01:35:41 PM
Hey all,

Havent saw any information on Miracle CR059 gravel frameset, so I thought I'd share with you :

http://www.mira-factory.com/Product/detail/id/42.html

Price 569USD for Frame, fork, seatpost, headset and handlebar

First frames will be deliverted in 2-3months









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