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Ideally, you'd get a bike fit before investing in a new bicycle; if you don't have a local fitter, possibly an online tool such as MyVeloFit is sufficient to give you at least ballpark numbers.

Lacking a fit, see what some of the major manufacturers recommend. Canyon for example suggests size XL for their Endurance CF 7 frame for someone your height (see attachment). Consulting the geometry chart, this frame (in size XL) has a 637mm stack and 405mm reach.

It's similar for other manufacturers: Specialized Roubaix size 61 - 630mm stack, 397mm reach; Giant Defy size XL - 615mm stack, 402mm reach.

To answer your first question, definitely look for a 610+mm stack frame (unless you have specific fit numbers). To partially answer your second question, the AliExpress experience is very much the opposite of what you are looking for. It offers gazillions of individual components rather than fully-assembled bicycles. It targets the meaty section of the bell curve rather than the very tall and the very short. It caters to the race/competition crowd much more so than to the endurance folks.

If you want to continue down the Chinese route, you may have more luck with a gravel bike since their geometry is generally more akin to an endurance bike. I'd take a look at TanTan/Seraph; this isn't an endorsement as such but maybe it serves as a reference point against which to compare other vendors.

Example 1,  based on TanTan GR206 frame: https://tantanbikes.com/13-Speed-Full-Bike-Disc-Gravel-Bike-GR206-Wheeltop-Gex-Groupset-Single-Speed-Di2-Complete-Bicycle-Aluminum-Wheelset-700X40C-Tire-p6885384.html
Size L - 620mm stack but also long reach (422mm - you may want to specify a shorter stem)

Example 2,  based on TanTan GR208 frame: https://tantanbikes.com/GR208-Disc-Gravel-Complete-Bike-WheelTop-EDS-113S-Groupset-p6908001.html
Size XL - 607mm stack (on the short end)

Caveat emptor: to (hopefully) find a configuration you like, you need to carefully sift through their full catalog and hunt for the groupset/wheels/color you want, or maybe talk to them directly.
https://tantanbikes.com/Full-Bike-c202763/

Thank you very much for this informative answer! I will try and do some more research. Do you think that it is possible to do a gravel frame but road wheels etc. from TanTan (as example)? And does a gravel frame perform that different from a road frame?

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Compete bike ordered from China to Europe will come with Anti Dumping Tax ..48%
That has to be put on the bike value AND the shipping cost.
Additionally common taxes must be paid.

Frames are not taxed with 48%... just saying.
Having no idea about the correct fit, buying a complete bike in China..I don't want to be pessimistic, but there is a really high possibility that this won't end up well.  Especially if it's about budget. If the bike won't fit, the budget was burned down for the wrong bike.

Currently in Europe I'd guess Cube has the highest value/€
I mean if Cube is available in your spot. Also Canyon is an option. Or a used bike in good condition. Later when you know what you need, you can still import a customized frame...

To my understanding, Aliexpress sellers like TanTan/Seraph ships tax free. But I totally get your point. I have been looking at the cheaper Cube and Trek models, but comparing to an Aliexpress bike, it just seemed as if i got way more value that way. But thank you.

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Do you have Decathlon in your region? Their Van Rysel bikes are really high value and you’ll at least have some basic after sales support. Buying a complete bike from China with zero experience setting up a bike isn’t impossible, but it’s a poor choice.

I dont, sadly.

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Hi everyone,

I'm a somewhat beginner when it comes to road cycling and I'm looking for some advice on buying my first road bike.

I'm based in Europe and I'm finding it really hard to justify buying an aluminium bike locally when I can see what's available through AliExpress for the same money. That said, I have zero experience building bikes myself, so I've been focusing on complete bikes rather than framesets.

The problem is that on a budget, the options for complete bikes are limited, and to make things worse, I don't really know my own fit numbers (reach, stack, etc.). I'm 193 cm tall. My only real-world cycling experience is on my dad's old road bike (size 56, which is way too small for me) and on an indoor bike.

From my research I've seen a lot of people recommend a stack of 600+ for taller riders, but I'm seeing some conflicting info. For example, SAVA lists one of their bikes with a stack of 568.5 mm and claims it fits riders over 190 cm. Is that realistic for someone my size, or would that put me in too aggressive/stretched-out a position?

I should also mention that I'm not looking for an aero riding position at all, I'd much prefer something more upright and endurance-oriented, prioritising comfort over performance.

So my questions are:
1. Is a stack of ~568 mm actually workable for a 193 cm rider, or should I hold out for something with a higher stack?
2. Do any of you have recommendations for complete bikes, models, or sellers on AliExpress/Alibaba that would suit a tall beginner looking for an endurance geometry?

Any help is hugely appreciated

Thanks in advance

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